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Heinz68
08-08-09, 01:44 PM
Looks like if the ATI dual GPU Cypress is delayed (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=136915), I might get the BEAST but for now all is just rumors.

Four more GT300 variants tip up
Look, the beast has kids!
by Charlie Demerjian (http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/08/05/four-more-gt300-variants-tip/)

August 5, 2009

SINCE WE BROKE the news about Nvidia's GT300 and it's huge die size, there is more about the family that has come to light. It will have some ankle biting offspring in short order.

Yes, the oft-delayed monster is going to have children, four of them. For the sharp-eyed, this is more than Nvidia has done at any time in the past. While none of them have taped out yet, our moles say that Nvidia usually waits until they get the first silicon back to see if there are any changes that need to be made to subsequent designs. With mask sets running into the 7 figures, this is what you call a smart move.

So, to reiterate, GT300 is going to be a huge die, ~23mm*23mm, half way between GT200 and GT200b. With TSMC 40nm wafers running ~30% more than 55nm wafers, this puts the cost of GT300 dies at about ((530/484) * 1.3 = 1.42x GT200. If you take yield into account, that cost will be much higher. We shall see.

Nvidia is still claiming a 2009 'launch', but it remains to be seen what 'launch' is. Reality dictates that anything more than a trickle of parts to reviewers is not possible, but NV has never been known for honesty in spinning. The really interesting question will be answered when people compare the steppings reviewers get to the ones on the shelves. Time will tell.S|A

josiahsuarez
08-08-09, 01:50 PM
hopefully this means they will have more of a top to bottom DX11 lineup like ATI is doing.

slaWter
08-08-09, 02:13 PM
lol, four paragraphs and 1 not even really important phrase... awesome news.

bob saget
08-08-09, 04:07 PM
you're not thinking of the kids ;)

pakotlar
08-08-09, 07:01 PM
how can you post news all the time about the same thing? and people actually read it.

its like masturbation, except charile doesnt offer us anything nearly as good as the possibility of child support.

CaptNKILL
08-08-09, 09:27 PM
its like masturbation, except charile doesnt offer us anything nearly as good as the possibility of child support.

I'm trying to figure out what this is supposed to mean, but...

:p

pakotlar
08-08-09, 10:11 PM
I'm trying to figure out what this is supposed to mean, but...

:p

Well Charlie jerks it and we get just bad news. When I jerk it, I get bad news, and between 50 and 100 million potential penny pinchers, depending on my mood.

Am I the winner here?

Heinz68
08-09-09, 12:23 AM
how can you post news all the time about the same thing? and people actually read it.

its like masturbation, except charile doesnt offer us anything nearly as good as the possibility of child support.
Relax pakotlar it's not news, it's a rumor and yes many people like to read rumors about a new hardware so there is going to be much more of it. Better get used to it. j/k since you don't need to read it.

First time I did read anywhere that NVIDIA is getting ready with five DX11 cards so I don't think it's "the same thing" as the other GT300 rumors in this forum.

Even with some of Charlie negatives in the article I was hoping people would look at it as good rumor about NVIDIA. Besides I did find the "beast has kids" a little funny but since you're talking about masturbation and "child support" it doesn't look too funny any more. :)

Heinz68
08-09-09, 12:30 AM
you're not thinking of the kids ;)

The kids could be good for PhysX, provided there isn't child support. :)

pakotlar
08-09-09, 02:34 AM
Relax pakotlar it's not news, it's a rumor and yes many people like to read rumors about a new hardware so there is going to be much more of it. Better get used to it. j/k since you don't need to read it.

First time I did read anywhere that NVIDIA is getting ready with five DX11 cards so I don't think it's "the same thing" as the other GT300 rumors in this forum.

Even with some of Charlie negatives in the article I was hoping people would look at it as good rumor about NVIDIA. Besides I did find the "beast has kids" a little funny but since you're talking about masturbation and "child support" it doesn't look too funny any more. :)

Charlie posting this stuff is fine. Posting it this many times, he's milked himself dry, slurped it up, regurgitated it, ate some red meat, got his count up, and yanked it 5 more times.

K007
08-09-09, 03:15 AM
wow...really...do you have nothing better do than whinge?

as for gt300...i might go nvidia next time depending on the price tho..if ati did the same price wars as they did with the 4xxx then ati will get my money...but have to think about physx this time seeing that some games have picked it up and it does look amazing in action.

pakotlar
08-09-09, 03:26 AM
wow...really...do you have nothing better do than whinge?

as for gt300...i might go nvidia next time depending on the price tho..if ati did the same price wars as they did with the 4xxx then ati will get my money...but have to think about physx this time seeing that some games have picked it up and it does look amazing in action.

What? What's a whinge?

LydianKnight
08-09-09, 07:17 AM
Even if it doesn't necessarily need to be true, maybe what I said in another post is a bit closer to reality than I originally expected.

The 'challenge' for NVIDIA is ATI has put the whole meat serving in the roaster from the beginning, so it's more-or-less logical for NVIDIA to (at least) think about doing the same (not necessarily in the same steps but at least counter-measuring ATI in a couple of fronts), although 4 variations based off the GT300 architecture seems like way too much for me.

I only talked about half-core, full-core and double-GPU, unless NVIDIA wants even more to compete on the lower end, like quarter-count, but that doesn't have any sense at all for me (at least, not for now).

Of course, this is just a rumour, so better not add too much to it, but... if it comes true, at least I'll get a chance of cramming one of those in my barebone ^_^