i got an idea for a video card

[KasuCode]

how about a card that has duel vpu's 256mb of ram
and one mad heat sink that does not need a fan and that comes stock to support water cooling look at the pic


actuly i got really board

[KasuCode]

sorry for the crappy pic it looked a lote beter but was too big

[Dazz]

I don't think a heat pipe is good enough to cool 2x GPU's myself.

[saturnotaku]

Already been tried with older gen cards, it was called the ATI Rage MAXX and it sucked. I'm not sure if this has changed or not, but 2 AGP devices are a no-no. The MAXX had one AGP and tricked Windows into seeing the other chip as a PCI device. Do the math on that one.

The Voodoo5 was able to work because both chips essentially were PCI devices (hence why that card was available in PCI form as well as AGP).

If you can get it to work, it might be a good idea, but I don't think this is something you'll see any time soon.

[The Baron]

Actually, if it's AGP3.0, it's theoretically possible to have 2 AGP devices. Or more. :D

Then again, it would probably cost something near the GDP of a small country and require its own power station.

[saturnotaku]

Originally posted by The Baron
Then again, it would probably cost something near the GDP of a small country and require its own power station.

Tru-dat! (copyright JuiceZ)

[ragejg]

:)

That is a cool drawing and design tho...

[KasuCode]

Ther only idea i like about it is the cores, ram, etc.... is on the other side of the card. it would look nice in a windowed pc

:alc:

[GlowStick]

Its a cool idea, but the past has shown that by the time someone comes up with a way to make of of their current gpu's fit on one board together someone comes out with a faster single chip solution.

I think this was demonstrated by

Wicked 3d - they claimed they could hook any number of video cards togehter with their proprorty software and hardware mod, demonstrated, never sold.(neat idea)

ATi- Rage Maxx - To little to late

3dfx worked good but no new core fast enough.

[KasuCode]

how about removable ram

[KasuCode]

with a remake of that zalman hs

[euan]

You mean something like this:

E+S (http://www.es.com/products/image+generators/simfusion/simfusion+6000/index.asp)

I wish I could find the pic, but can't sadly.

[KasuCode]

something like that

[GlowStick]

Originally posted by euan
You mean something like this:

E+S (http://www.es.com/products/image+generators/simfusion/simfusion+6000/index.asp)

I wish I could find the pic, but can't sadly.

wow, those systems are alot like

http://www.quantum3d.com/products.html

the obsidian fx looks like a regular quadro fx but they claim they have some extra stuff on it for night vision simulations or something.

looks like both systems are targed for millitary use?

[LORD-eX-Bu]

didn't early 3d accelerators have removable sdram? I'm thinkin' on the lines of S3 Virge and stuff:confused:

[The Baron]

Yes, cause I put an extra 2 megs of RAM in my Matrox Mystique back in "The Day."

[Raptorman]

I had always thought of turning the card "right side up." Everyone said it would burn the CPU on the mainboard up though.
Sure, it might get warmer, but not so hot the CPU would be fried. Anyway, it should be possible (with a know-how) come up with a heatsink&fan that could push the heat leaving the GPU away from the CPU to keep from possibly overheating the CPU.
Then, you wouldn't have to worry about hogging up PCI slots

[yoladude]

Originally posted by Raptorman
I had always thought of turning the card "right side up." Everyone said it would burn the CPU on the mainboard up though.
Sure, it might get warmer, but not so hot the CPU would be fried. Anyway, it should be possible (with a know-how) come up with a heatsink&fan that could push the heat leaving the GPU away from the CPU to keep from possibly overheating the CPU.
Then, you wouldn't have to worry about hogging up PCI slots

yea, this is one reason why i dont understand why the fx5800/5900 taking up two slots was such an issue. i cant use the pci slot next to my ti4200 because of my gpu cooler (it would be an extremely tight fit, and the fan on the gpu cooler would be up against a solid surface, rendering it useless).
and yea, dual agp cards would rock....if u got the cash. look at voodoo2.....classic example of extreme performance from hooking two cards together....doubled speed. but then voodoo3 came along offering the performance of voodoo2 sli on a single board.....poo.

[Kaguya]

Since this thread is sort of talking about "What If" scenerios, this is something I had thought would be a neat change for the future:

Today's graphics cards are switching to a Flip-Chip design, which sort of means someone could design a motherboard that would take "just" the GPU core in a zif socket much like a CPU does today. Then, provided that the setup has a good connection to the RAM, the GPU could share on board RAM so you could have as much RAM as you wanted for your GPU with whatever you set in the BIOS, and you could upgrade your GPU just by dropping a newer flip chip later down the road.

This would be cool 'cuz I think it would be easier for graphics companies to produce this style of product rather than a whole package, and it would be cheaper for us since it would be smaller with less stuff.

[GlowStick]

actually, crap PC's and lap tops have SHARED video ram, BAD BAD IDEA,

mainly because its shared... geeze, and secondly because system ram is soooooo slow and has crap bandiwth compared to any video card...... then, you have to share that small bandiwth with the cpu.

[Kaguya]

In current systems it's probably slow because it goes through the southbridge or something.

If you completey rebuild the way a videocard connects to its RAM, it should be plenty fast.

However, you could always have seperate Graphics RAM on the board.

[GlowStick]

Originally posted by Kaguya
In current systems it's probably slow because it goes through the southbridge or something.

If you completey rebuild the way a videocard connects to its RAM, it should be plenty fast.

However, you could always have seperate Graphics RAM on the board.

defiantly not,

the cpu only gets about 6gig's of bandiwth with dual channel pc3200ddr

while the radeon 9700's get about 23gig's, nv35 gets about 24gig's (off the top of my head, they are really close to eachtoher)

so how is it going to be faster when you go from 25gb/s to 6?

[Steppy]

Originally posted by saturnotaku
Already been tried with older gen cards, it was called the ATI Rage MAXX and it sucked. I'm not sure if this has changed or not, but 2 AGP devices are a no-no. The MAXX had one AGP and tricked Windows into seeing the other chip as a PCI device. Do the math on that one.

The Voodoo5 was able to work because both chips essentially were PCI devices (hence why that card was available in PCI form as well as AGP).

If you can get it to work, it might be a good idea, but I don't think this is something you'll see any time soon. Actually ATI developed a bridge chip to get around this limitation of pre 3.0 agp around the same time they finished the r200 chip. There is some simulation company that in fact used multichip 8500's to power their systems.