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Head_slinger
08-31-02, 02:48 PM
I have a geforce 4 Ti 4400. i also have a really crap 5 year old 15" packard bell monitor. :D .

I am upgrading but i have no clue what monitor to get. I mainly play games and ive heard that 19" is too big so im looking at a 17" which can support nice refresh rates. instead of 1024 @ 60hz like this old banger.

Any help greatly appreciated.

BTW Budget 200 :D

Tactics
08-31-02, 05:34 PM
I mainly play games and ive heard that 19" is too big so im looking at a 17" which can support nice refresh rates. instead of 1024 @ 60hz like this old banger.


God no 19" is perfext for gaming. I'm not sure what your budget is even though you posted it. I believe your from the UK

Anyway my monitor is awesome. There's a few good quality ones out there but it took me like a whole day to research a ton of them and read reviews to see what was good, fair and bad. I eneded up getting a LG Electronics Flatron 915FT plus. The flat screen is great. I would suggest going that route instead of the typical CRT. Mine was under $400 a year ago and the prices have come way down so you might want to check it out. I believe Samsung has a few good ones to. Stay away from Sony! I bought 5 G400's and had to return one after another because of defects. I don't think theres any Sony's in your budget range anyway.

The Baron
08-31-02, 07:03 PM
Sony.

Ignore him.

Sony HMD-A400 is BY FAR the best monitor I have ever seen. The business model works too, but this thing is just so damn sexy. People walk in my room and say, "Holy ****. Dude, I know why you don't leave your room." :p

It's about $450, but it's worth every penny.

Refresh rates aren't perfect (only 60Hz at 1600), but 1600 is too small for me anyway.

And if you're looking at a 17 inch, check out this company called KDS--cheap monitors (17 inch for like $125), but they have the FD Trinitron stuff like a Sony and look pretty good (don't like the colors as much, but oh well).

Wolfie
08-31-02, 07:54 PM
SAMSUNG make good ones too.

thcdru2k
09-01-02, 10:11 AM
the man said he has $200 to spend not $450.... big difference there.

woflie is right, go look for a samsung 19' model. they go for $200 and under.

Head_slinger
09-01-02, 12:52 PM
thanx for all the posts guys. I said i have budget of 200 so i wouldnt get any one recommending stupid high priced plasma stuff :D. Dont worry m8 im not gonna touch Sony my m8 has had 2 and they both blew up 4 month out of warranty :D. I dont know if it was his fault tho.

I think Samsung or LG will be my choice my m8 has LG 17" and its pretty good.

Is flat screen really as good as u say compared to CRT. I would rather save up for longer and get good model then spend what i have on something that isnt gonna give me my money worths.

Thanx alot

P.S i am from UK BTW (how could u tell) :)

Tactics
09-01-02, 02:40 PM
Is flat screen really as good as u say compared to CRT

I would say yea for sure! Flat is sweet compared to the "curve" of a CRT. Hey I would save up a little more and get the one you want since people don't upgrade there monitors every 6 months. They're usually there for the long haul. :)

The Baron
09-01-02, 03:03 PM
Flat screen (assuming you mean flat glass and not LCD) looks infinitely better. Plus there's the whole glare thing--you can actually use the computer with lights on.

Believe me, it's worth it.

Smokey
09-01-02, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Head_slinger
I have a geforce 4 Ti 4400. i also have a really crap 5 year old 15" packard bell monitor. :D .

I am upgrading but i have no clue what monitor to get. I mainly play games and ive heard that 19" is too big so im looking at a 17" which can support nice refresh rates. instead of 1024 @ 60hz like this old banger.

Any help greatly appreciated.

BTW Budget 200 :D

Then look no futher than Iiyama. Iiyama.co.uk (http://www.iiyama.co.uk) go to products, monitors, CRT. Under 17inch VM Pro 413-187 inlcu VAT. 1600*1200@75Hz
Ive been using the VM Pro 450 19" for going on 3 years and its fantastic. You also get something like a 3year warranty so its all good. Flat screen, high refresh, great picture, great colour, 3year warranty all for under 200. I am not a sales person :p I just think for your money you cant get better than Iiyama, I bought mine 3years ago based on over 20 reviews I read as I was paying 450 at the time.

thcdru2k
09-01-02, 10:39 PM
unfortunately the samsung 900nf is $375. but it really is an exceptional monitor. 1600x1200 @ 87mhz is pretty damn good.

if you want 19in get samsung 950b. it is a 19in monitor and is only $180 in the states. it also has a 0.22mm dot pitch. thats probably the best 19in monitor for under $200..

however if you want 17 in, i guess you should definately check out that iiyama vision pro..it would look better, than that 19in.

FastM
09-02-02, 10:17 AM
If you dont mind a 17inch you should check out what you can get the Samsung 700NF. Same as the 900NF just the 17inch version.

Now if money was no object.... 1200NF drooooooooollll....

Head_slinger
09-02-02, 12:17 PM
Im really puzzled at what size i should get? I see a 17" that can do same resolution and refresh rate as 19". So that would probably do me im talking about the iiyama. So i was wondering if someone could tell me of there was any benefits with image quality with a 19" then a 17". Not just that its bigger :D. I dont really have much benchspace but i could make some if i did get a 19" :)


BTW thanx for posting all

ive seen this and it looks pretty good price and all :D

Samsung SM957DF 19" CRT Monitor 218.10 + Vat
HZ, MS, DF, 0.20mm(H), 30-96KHz

High-resolution professional monitor, with perfectly flat screen. Max resolution: 1920 x 1440 @ 64Hz. Features: Highlight Zone, MouScreen and Natural Colour Software. Dot Pitch: 0.20mm


just wondering if it is good

Im also wondering how far back people sit when using there 19" monitors. Im worried that when i buy my monitor that i will get headaches from it being too big etc.

back again :D , Am i right in saying that on my current monitor @ 60hz, i am only seeing 60fps from games? even tho they are running at 120 etc.

thcdru2k
09-02-02, 12:38 PM
JUST GET THE MONITOR YOU HAVE FOUND ITS REALLY GOOD. image quality depends on the type of monitor, dot pitch, build quality, etc. size really doesn't matter. just sit as far back as readable and comfy for you. it doesn't matter how someone else would sit. you won't get any headaches. personally my eyes are about 2 and a half feet away from the screen. if you do have problems with staring at screens just look away for a couple minutes. the size of the monitor doesn't affect your eyes, its the brightness of the lights and the lighting around you. that samsung monitor has a flat screen, and a excellent dot pitch, and is affordable. i don't think you can go wrong with that. i have two 17in trinitrons, and a mitsubishi 19in trinitron. the difference is amazing, i very much prefer the 19in. oh yeah i have a diamond pro 900u, very very flat, and very very clear, i would recommend that if it was in your price range..but oh well i'm sure that samsung would be excellent as well.

Smokey
09-02-02, 02:49 PM
Basiclly if you go to a 19" you have to do the samething as you were doing when asking about the 17". That Iiyama monitor I put a link to, is the highest quailty 17" and has a price just under 200 incl. VAT, also bear in mind that when people are quoting prices in US$ its ex. tax, and I dont think the sales tax is as high as it is in the UK (17.5%). Now sure you can find a 19" at around 200 also, even Iyama has a 19" thats just under 200 incl. VAT, but you are not going to get the best 19" for that price. Take a quick look at Iiyama's 3 19" monitors on thier site. The best one is 316 incl. VAT, supports resolutions of 1600*1200@100Hz, 1800*1440@85Hz and 2048*1536@80Hz. Then you could look at the cheapest 19" which is 198 incl.VAT. and it supports 1600*1200 only @ 75Hz. For me on my 19" a res of 1280*1024 looks really nice, and I can run all my games at this res and still get high FPS ~80. Size does make a big difference, and 19" is a nice size over 17", I would like the Iiyama top of the range 22" but I dont have the 600 spare:( When buying a monitor always remember that this is the most important part of your pc. Through all the upgrades you will ever do, a good monitor wont need upgrading.

Head_slinger
09-02-02, 04:08 PM
Ok im in 2 minds with these monitors. I dont have a clue what the specs mean but i have a vague idea etc.


Samsung SM957DF 19" CRT Monitor 218.10 + Vat
HZ, MS, DF, 0.20mm(H), 30-96KHz

High-resolution professional monitor, with perfectly flat screen. Max resolution: 1920 x 1440 @ 64Hz. Features: Highlight Zone, MouScreen and Natural Colour Software. Dot Pitch: 0.20mm



Iiyama

CRT 19" VM PRO 452
19" DiamondTron NF-CRT (18"viewable)
Horizontal sync: 30-96Hz
Verticle 50-180Hz
Max Resolution 1600 x 1200 @ 75Hz
1280x1024 @ 85Hz
AS-AR coating
TCO-99
3 years on-site warranty
0.25 Dot pitch
160MHz Dor Clock

215
With the samsung u get higher resolution but a pretty crap RR. Im used to 60 so i could deal with it :D

Iiyama is cheaper tho :D

Help!!

Smokey
09-02-02, 05:19 PM
That 3years on site warranty has to be worth something :D Also keep in mind, with a 19" you are better keeping to 1280*1024 for games, if you have a GF3 Ti you can also use 4x anio, GF4 and above, you can use 4x anio+ 2-4x FSAA. I can run my games @ 1600*1200@85Hz but still find 1280*1024 as the sweet spot and just crank up those extra things like anio and FSAA is my game is fast enough. Either way you cant loose, but as I have one myself and I know how good they really are, and thier new shape looks nice also, mines the older squarer shape, look deep into my eyes and repeat after me.

I WANT THE 19" IIYAMA
I WANT THE 19" IIYAMA
I WANT THE 19" IIYAMA
I WANT THE 19" IIYAMA

So there you have it :p

thcdru2k
09-02-02, 05:56 PM
oh wow didn't notice that the iiyama is a diamondtron...which is the same as trinitron, the technology sony uses for their monitors :)

GET IIYAMA GET IIYAMA