9800 Pro just smoked the FX5900Ultra

[garikfox]

Thats a nice review on the front page there, It seemed to have gotten around the web too ! :)

Good Review !!

[DivotMaker]

Not sure what review you are looking at, but I have not seen one review where either card gets "smoked".

The review at the very top of the nV News page is more favorable to the 5900 than the 9800 even though the 5900 appears to be the 256 MB Ultra.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k-hardware.de%2Fartikel.php%3Fs%3D%26artikel_id%3D21 90%26seite%3D1&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

[Hellbinder]

The review at the very top of the nV News page is more favorable to the 5900 than the 9800 even though the 5900 appears to be the 256 MB Ultra.

Um.. what review did you read... because the Ocadiction review that is the one on the Front page he is refering to here..

http://www.ocaddiction.com/articles/video/fx_5900ultra_vs_radeon_9800pro/

Has this conclusion....


Conclusion

Let's break down performance of both cards and see which one comes out on top.



UT2k3 - FX 5900 Ultra - While both cards perform well, the FX 5900 comes out on top

AquaMark - R9800 Pro - The R9800 takes home the gold in this real-world benchmark

Comanche 4 - R9800 Pro - The R9800 also wins out by an edge for this nearly obsolete benchmark

Specviewperf 7.0 - R9800 Pro - This one is really close but the #'s lean to the R9800

Code Creatures - FX 5900 Ultra - The 5900 beats up the R9800 pretty good in this intensive benchmark

Splinter Cell - R9800 Pro - Hands down, the R9800 takes it in this awesome game from UBISoft

ShaderMark - R9800 Pro - While the FX 5900 Ultra makes a good showing, the R9800 wins this one

3DMark 01 SE Build 330 - R9800 Pro - The R9800 takes top honors with this tried and true synthetic benchmark

3DMark 03 Build 320 - FX 5900 Ultra - Should we include this? Possibly not, however the FX 5900 wins with WHQL Det Drivers

3D Visual Quality - R9800 Pro hands down



And the winner is.........The FIC ATi Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB. We compared these cards in every category we could think of and in the end, we saw better performance overall from the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. Did the FX 5900 fail to impress us? No, not at all. We believe both cards are worthy of any good system but we do have to tip our hats to the excellent performance that the Radeon 9800 Pro has showed us here today.

[CaptNKILL]

Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
Not sure what review you are looking at, but I have not seen one review where either card gets "smoked".

The review at the very top of the nV News page is more favorable to the 5900 than the 9800 even though the 5900 appears to be the 256 MB Ultra.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k-hardware.de%2Fartikel.php%3Fs%3D%26artikel_id%3D21 90%26seite%3D1&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Hes probably talking about this one:
http://www.ocaddiction.com/articles/video/fx_5900ultra_vs_radeon_9800pro/

In that particular review, Id say YES, the 5900 Ultra is getting smoked because the 9800 Pro 128Mb leads most of the tests, yet it costs $150 less.

Just my $2 :D

[garikfox]

yes its that one.

[creedamd]

sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssMOKED!

[DivotMaker]

Originally posted by creedamd
sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssMOKED!


Um, whatever....if that is your definition of "smoked", then more power to ya....

[Skuzzy]

Well BBEA,..on pure performance, it is close, with the edge going to the 9800Pro, it appears.

On price/performance ratios...the 9800Pro could be said to 'smoke' the 5900Ultra.

[Ninja Prime]

Especially when they are using build 320 of 3dmark03... methinks the radeon would win this too if they used 330 w/o the nvidia cheats. Yes I said cheats. ;) We all know it.

[DivotMaker]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Well BBEA,..on pure performance, it is close, with the edge going to the 9800Pro, it appears.

On price/performance ratios...the 9800Pro could be said to 'smoke' the 5900Ultra.

THAT I can easily agree with....

[jimmyjames123]

Well why don't we just jump on a "jump to conclusions" mat :rolleyes:

There were several reviews when the FX 5900 Ultra first came out where the 5900 Ultra "smoked" the Radeon 9800 Pro in virtually all tests, including the Doom 3 tests.

Firingsquad did one review recently with "custom" demos where the 9800 Pro had the edge over the 5900 Ultra in some tests, and then four days later they made more intensive "custom" demos where the FX 5900 Ultra came out on top again. Clearly, there is a good deal of variance in these test results depending on what is being benchmarked. Also, the FX series has already made significant headway in image quality and speed with the current detonators, and the next set of detonators certainly should help.

[jimmyjames123]

Just to show how results can be so different, look at this review at Firingsquad, where the FX 5900 comes out ahead over the 9800 Pro at every resolution in Splinter Cell:

http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_fx_5900_ultra_review/page11.asp

[greatcu1]

All the reviews out there make it look like it's a pretty close race to me. To be honest, I really wanted to make the jump to a 9700 or 9800, just to try an ATI card once. I've only owned nvidia cards, from the TNT2 to the Geforce 1, and have had a Geforce 3 for a while now. However, I play Neverwinter Nights a lot, and anyone who knows ATI's drivers in regard to that game knows that a lowly Geforce 3 puts both the 9700 and 9800 to shame on that game (no AA/AF), which is pretty sad. If ATI gets its act together with just this game, it would probably be enough for me to consider getting a 9700 or 9800. However, with the new 3.5 Catalysts actually creating more problems in NWN, by the time they get around to making the game playable, I probably will have already upgraded to a 5600 Ultra or 5900.

[garikfox]

yeah , yeah, 3.5 CAT even got rid of there 3DMark2003 support also, so wooohoo !!

[b00bie]

Having the card myself, I must say that it is an excellent card. I don't think there is any need to buy the 256MB version of 9800PRO or the 5900Ultra as the performance is very close and 128 is much cheaper.
As far as one card 'smoking' the the other, I don't think "smoke" is the right term here. One card dominates where the other lacks in my opinion. Performance on them is close, but as far as one being cheaper and getting similar results, the 9800PRO 128MB is a much better buy for the time being. ;)

[garikfox]

Ok it Doesnt SMOKE it, It "Surpasses" It. heh

[creedamd]

I think it smoked.

1.) Its lost a review to ati's #2 video card.

2.) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030624/sftu011_1.html

3.) The 9800pro 128 is much cheaper than the 5900Ultra 256.

4.) Nvidia is probably still cheating.

5.) The 9800 has superior AA.

I don't think it was a photo finish by no means.:p

[Ninja Prime]

Is that a wankle rotary engine in your pic creedamd?

[DivotMaker]

Originally posted by creedamd
I think it smoked.


If it makes you happy, good for you then...

[Sazar]

Originally posted by Ninja Prime
Is that a wankle rotary engine in your pic creedamd?

is it wankle or wenkel ?

been a while since I heard anything but rotary lol... can't even remember how its spelt...

[DivotMaker]

Originally posted by Sazar
is it wankle or wenkel ?

been a while since I heard anything but rotary lol... can't even remember how its spelt...

Wankel...

[Sazar]

Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
Wankel...

k...

:)

I loved the rx-7's :)

they were a kewl car...

I wanna test drive the rx-8.. but they want a big ol deposit to let you test drive it :(