Tygerwoody's NBA Prediction Thread 2009/2010

[Albo]

I'm going to the celtics game today
It will be my first basketball game that I will attend.
:D

[bob saget]

I'm going to the celtics game today
It will be my first basketball game that I will attend.
:D

nice! Have fun!

[Albo]

I will. :)
I'm on my iPod on the train there lol. I'm so excited

[methimpikehoses]

9 win club:

East: Boston, Atlanta
West: Phoenix, Portland, Dallas

[Tygerwoody]

Adding another prediction.

Allen Iverson is going to play his ass off and you will see people talking about how "Iverson got better" or how "Iverson is learning Team Ball". This is due to everyone's ignorance. Allen Iverson is no better than he was last year. He's still the same guy. He won't "learn" Team Ball either. He's been playing team ball for 3 years now. Noone but me watches his games so you never see all his perfect passes that his team usually blows. Allen will average at LEAST 6 assists per game. He may even get 7+. He will average a still All Star worthy 18-22 points a game. (For the record, look at "all star" Jameer Nelson's stats last year)

I can't wait. Rubbing Allen Iverson's success into everyone's face is going to be so fun.

[methimpikehoses]

crans.

[Tygerwoody]

And also for the record. If I'm wrong about Allen Iverson, I'll publicly admit it.

[DiscipleDOC]

And also for the record. If I'm wrong about Allen Iverson, I'll publicly admit it.

You are wrong. Start puckering up.

[Sazar]

Adding another prediction.

Allen Iverson is going to play his ass off and you will see people talking about how "Iverson got better" or how "Iverson is learning Team Ball". This is due to everyone's ignorance. Allen Iverson is no better than he was last year. He's still the same guy. He won't "learn" Team Ball either. He's been playing team ball for 3 years now. Noone but me watches his games so you never see all his perfect passes that his team usually blows. Allen will average at LEAST 6 assists per game. He may even get 7+. He will average a still All Star worthy 18-22 points a game. (For the record, look at "all star" Jameer Nelson's stats last year)

I can't wait. Rubbing Allen Iverson's success into everyone's face is going to be so fun.

**** Allen Iverson.

He's a good player. He's not a good team-player. He stank it up in Detroit last season and sulked his way out of Memphis.

[Sazar]

Thoughts on your predictions.

The Spurs will be the most improved team in the NBA. Not only because of their pickups of Blair and Jefferson, but because they "improved" by no injuries. This will be the only team in the way of the Lakers in the West.

Still up in the air. They are playing through some injuries, but they just don't seem to have that championship edge. They are far from the most improved team in the NBA and will not be at season's end.

Cleveland picked up a few solid bench players. Shaq is a minor upgrade to ilgauskas. They still need a point guard though. They've needed a point guard for 7 years now. Thats the missing peice to Lebron getting a championship, not another bigman. Lebron will get Defensive Player of the year and MVP.

Doubt Lebron will get defensive player of the year, but since all the sports-casters suck his wang, he will likely win the MVP. Cavs have sort of put it together lately and Shaq has really started to pay dividends. I think the game against Phx, he opened plenty of lanes for his guys, even if his personal numbers are down.

Celtics got sheed and daniels. Nuff said. However, Garnett is pretty old and busted. Allen is getting there as well. Still Championship contenders.

Not much to add.

Clippers still won't make playoffs. Griffin will get rookie of the year provided he stays healthy. If he's not healthy, Jennings followed by Blair are my next choices.

Not much to add.

Grizzlies will be a tossup. If AI and Randolph can actually mesh well, they might make it to 8th seed of playoffs. I'm guessing they will miss the playoffs. 40-43 win team.

Remains to be seen how they play without AI.

Golden State Warriors are in the position to make some monster trades. This could be a potential team to watch out for. They have a team loaded with some of the best scorers in the league. However, they have too many pure shooting guards(that play various positions). They don't have a true 1 3 or 5. Trading Ellis and Jackson could change that. Maybe even pick up Stoudemire or Bosh.

Next year could be a big trading year.

Nuggets have matured. I have a feeling this year Carmelo is going to absolutely dominate, however i don't see them doing better than last year.

They have played very well in stretches. They are probably the 2nd best team in the West right now.

Thunder will be the most improved team in the NBA(as far as players getting better, not new pickups like the Spurs). Westbrook will end up being one of the top 5 point guards within a year. Durant will be leading scorer in the NBA within 2 years. Green is going to improve. They are making very smart draft choices. All of their rookies are top notch. The only piece Thunder is missing is a good center. I see this team not making the playoffs, but certainly will next year if they get a center.

I would throw Westbrook into your comments. He has played awesome and I expect the team to be one of the top 4 in the West soon.

The Knicks will suck this year and many years to come. They will recruit very crappy players as they have been doing. Lebron will not go there. No chance in hell.

Nuff said.

The Nets got bought by one of the richest men in the world. I'm wondering how overpriced they will pay to get good players.

Epic Fail comes to mind for this team.

The Rockets will fall more than any other team.

Probably the most off-base prediction. But I would have said they would have fallen as well. The players have really played lights out as a TEAM this season. Kudos to Houston.

The 76er's will do slightly worse.

They stink right now.

The Hornets will stay virtually the same. Chris Paul will have an MVP season.

They also stink right now. How you take virtually the same team that dominated 2 seasons ago and keep getting worse, I don't get, even when CP3 was playing. The best PG in the game and a decent Forward in West and they can't do crap.

Dwayne Wade will leave the Heat. Most likely team I can think of for him would be the Nets.

Heat have played much better than expected and as a result, I don't see Wade leaving.

The Bulls will do slightly worse.

Still up in the air.

Pistons will do worse.

Still up in the air.

The Blazers will stay the same. Oden will perform "decent". Look forward to 13 and 8.5 numbers from him. Roy did amazing last year, he will do slightly better.

Oden has been awesome this season and the team is playing much better than last season. A potential dark-horse at the end of the season on current form.

Pacers will still suck. Hansborough will get hardly any playtime on a bad team.

Tyler is playing decent, needs to improve his shooting touch, but he is all energy. Pacers though, not so good.

The Jazz will be better due to no injuries.

Maybe Deron will turn the season around for them.

The Bobcats will be slightly worse

Haven't really followed them

The Suns will stay the same, which is bad.

They are playing faster, though not sure if it's because of their really soft schedule at the start of the season.

Magic will be the same. However, I don't think they will make it to the finals.

They have potential and if Nelson is healthy, they have a chance. Vince is the big question. Will he play nice with the rest of the team?

The Wizards will be infected by injuries. Arenas will get hurt again.

They suck.

The Kings will no longer be an NBA team within 2 years.

Dunno. I would think they would move rather than stop being.

The Bucks will obviously do very bad. Brandon Jennings will be 1st or 2nd or 3rd best player of the draft. Possible candidate for ROY.

Timberwolves will trade away their rights to RagHeadBoy. Flynn will be solid. 12-14ppg and 5ast.

Don't really follow either.

Mavericks will be better, but won't make it out of the first round of playoffs due to leaning on Dirk Choksondikski

The Mavs might actually be a 2nd round team this year.

Raptors will be worse. Bosh will leave.

Bosh will leave.

Lakers pick up of Ron Artest is yet to be judged. Could be a really good pickup, or not so much. I don't think they got worse by the pickup though, definitely. Will repeat as champions if they can make it past the Spurs and Boston.

With Gasol, they are so good, they almost seem to be sleep-walking through games right now. If they don't get too bored by the end of the season, I expect them to repeat also.

I think Cleveland, Orlando, Boston, Lakers, Spurs, Denver and Portland are the teams to watch out for, given current showings. They just have a swagger about them and an extra gear in terms of skill-set.

[Tygerwoody]

**** Allen Iverson.

He's a good player. He's not a good team-player. He stank it up in Detroit last season and sulked his way out of Memphis.

Please. Explain to me in detail. How Iverson "stank up" Detroit and Memphis. Then I will proceed to rip apart anything you say with FACTS. I'm guessing you won't even attempt, because you are making a baseless statement and you know it. I'll give you a chance though.

[General Lee]

I'd like to make a bet...I think the Atlanta Braves will totally kick all those other teams' asses. Yeah I know, two different sports. Doesn't matter, the braves have baseballs to throw and bats to take some heads off with. :D

"Attention, can we get the janitor in here? There's way too much blood on the court!"

[Sazar]

Please. Explain to me in detail. How Iverson "stank up" Detroit and Memphis. Then I will proceed to rip apart anything you say with FACTS. I'm guessing you won't even attempt, because you are making a baseless statement and you know it. I'll give you a chance though.

Simple, his constant whining about coming off the bench. His constant complaining about not being able to play HIS Game, HIS way and so forth. Look up his interviews around the all-star break where he was asked about his time in Detroit.

If you watched the games where he played HIS game, he just jacked up shots and went 1 on 1 and the rest of the offense that had previously flowed smoothly with Billups just came to a standstill. Also, during the pivotal period in Feb when they should have been making a push, Iverson did indeed play HIS game and lead HIS team right out of the win column.

There is no question Iverson is a good player. He also stinks up the place when he doesn't get what he wants. Feel free to counter this "baseless" statement after reading Iverson's comments, watching his interviews and seeing Detroit's performance on the court last season with those facts you were talking about :)

[Tygerwoody]

Simple, his constant whining about coming off the bench. His constant complaining about not being able to play HIS Game, HIS way and so forth. Look up his interviews around the all-star break where he was asked about his time in Detroit.

If you watched the games where he played HIS game, he just jacked up shots and went 1 on 1 and the rest of the offense that had previously flowed smoothly with Billups just came to a standstill. Also, during the pivotal period in Feb when they should have been making a push, Iverson did indeed play HIS game and lead HIS team right out of the win column.

There is no question Iverson is a good player. He also stinks up the place when he doesn't get what he wants. Feel free to counter this "baseless" statement after reading Iverson's comments, watching his interviews and seeing Detroit's performance on the court last season with those facts you were talking about :)
Wow. You really don't watch basketball at all.

Its the COACH'S JOB to put the players in situations where they are comfortable with so they can perform. The rookie coach from Detroit(that was fired btw), did not only ruin Allen Iverson's stats, he did the same to Rip Hamilton. He put them both in situations they weren't accustomed to. Seriously. Rip Hamilton playing 3 and sometimes even 4 is ridiculous.

Did you not notice that Detroit was on its DOWNFALL when AI joined? Don't you remembe the whole reason behind trading for AI in the first place? They were desperate and wanted to try SOMETHING. So they get rid of their best player and coach(make no mistake, Chauncey Billups was the coach for the Pistons, as he is for Denver). Detroit lacked any and all low post offense and defense. They had a 6ft'7 guy playing center a good bit of time. Their starting center was Kwame Brown! The team was a JOKE. Even if Chauncey stayed, they still wouldn't have been a good team. They did need and still do need a strong center.

So, Allen was put on a crappy team, with zero low post defense, a crippled Rip Hamilton, a disgruntled Rip Hamilton, NO TRUE POINT GUARD ON THE TEAM(which there still isn't one), a very under performing Tayshuan Prince, Kwame Brown, a rookie coach who didn't know what he was doing, no true center, and lowered A.I's minutes dramatically.

After all that, you expect the team to do good? :udawg:

Kobe Bryant HIMSELF could have been traded to the detroit pistons and the EXACT same thing would happen. People would talk about the "decline of Kobe Bryant". Bench Kobe? LOL How pissed do you think that guy would be? Don't you think he would contact the media? Allen Iverson did everything he could for the team in the situation he was in. Would they have done better with Chauncey instead of AI? Of course they would. Chauncey was their leader and coach. Of course they would. But they would also do better with Chauncey than Kobe. Chauncey fills up a huge gap in what most teams lack, leadership.



Its really laughable how predictable everyone is when talking about the AI situation. They just parrot repeat what they heard on TV. They don't actually watch any NBA games. They just want to feel important and act like they know whats going on.

If you would like to proceed with some actual facts instead of "Durrrrrrr the year allen iverson joined, they did bad, when he wazn ther they did goood!" . Seriously. Put some thought into it. Talk about the game. Talk about the holes that allen iverson put in their team. Do something. Hell. Iverson isn't a great defender. Talk about that. Talk about something of substance. I want an intelligent debate, not a bunch of dribble.

[DiscipleDOC]

Wow. You really don't watch basketball at all.



LOL...why do you think that you're the only one that "watch basketball"? AI is not the answer to any teams dilemma.

[Tygerwoody]

LOL...why do you think that you're the only one that "watch basketball"? AI is not the answer to any teams dilemma.

Sure he isn't. But there are a lot of teams that he was the "answer" to.


Take the Cavs for example. A.I(or anyone decent to play PG) on the Cavs = Championship contenders. They didn't make the trade, so now they won't get a ring. Sucks for them.

[DiscipleDOC]

Sure he isn't. But there are a lot of teams that he was the "answer" to.


Take the Cavs for example. A.I(or anyone decent to play PG) on the Cavs = Championship contenders. They didn't make the trade, so now they won't get a ring. Sucks for them.

Oh, I agree. They could have made a run with him, because he is a LITTLE BETTER THAN AVERAGE.


My prediction: Sixers will do a little better than they are doing now, but they still will be poop at the end of the season.

[Sazar]

LOL...why do you think that you're the only one that "watch basketball"? AI is not the answer to any teams dilemma.

No, Tigger is right, I don't watch any basketball :bleh:

I'm more into petanque and bridge honestly :wonder:

Re: AI's career, he's never been on any nationally televised games or ever had any interviews so no one ever knows what he does, except Tigger, just as Zelda (whom Tigger call's out) knows all about Nash :wonder:

That same coach-less, Rip-less team was, at one point, 20-12 and playing well with the rookie-coaches strategies in place. When AI's role with the team grew after his constant whining (post all-star break) their record went in the pooper. As I said, look at their performance in February. Granted I don't watch any basketball but, the game basically came to a standstill with AI taking on defenders, trying to dribble his way around and, his standard MO, dropping the ball off with a couple of seconds on the clock if he hadn't jacked it up already to one of his team-mates.

Tigger, you talk about grandiose things about everyone else and yet you haven't addressed the basic problem with playing with AI. The ONLY time I have ever seen him play basketball without a "me first" agenda has been when he played with Team USA and actually, consciously, distributed the ball.

Otherwise, he is happy with his 30 shots, 20 points performances.

[Tygerwoody]

No, Tigger is right, I don't watch any basketball :bleh:

I'm more into petanque and bridge honestly :wonder:

Re: AI's career, he's never been on any nationally televised games or ever had any interviews so no one ever knows what he does, except Tigger, just as Zelda (whom Tigger call's out) knows all about Nash :wonder:

That same coach-less, Rip-less team was, at one point, 20-12 and playing well with the rookie-coaches strategies in place. When AI's role with the team grew after his constant whining (post all-star break) their record went in the pooper. As I said, look at their performance in February. Granted I don't watch any basketball but, the game basically came to a standstill with AI taking on defenders, trying to dribble his way around and, his standard MO, dropping the ball off with a couple of seconds on the clock if he hadn't jacked it up already to one of his team-mates.

Tigger, you talk about grandiose things about everyone else and yet you haven't addressed the basic problem with playing with AI. The ONLY time I have ever seen him play basketball without a "me first" agenda has been when he played with Team USA and actually, consciously, distributed the ball.

Otherwise, he is happy with his 30 shots, 20 points performances.
You pointed out he hasn't taken 30 shots in 3 years. Isn't that funny how I've been saying AI has been playing team ball for the past 3 years?

AI use to be a "me first" player. Again, if you watched him in Denver and Detroit, you would know he was definitely a team player through and through. His 30 shot days are over(again 3 years ago.) . In the early 76er days, 30 shots a day was the norm, no doubt. Not anymore. I don't know why this is rocket science to you guys.

[Sazar]

You pointed out he hasn't taken 30 shots in 3 years. Isn't that funny how I've been saying AI has been playing team ball for the past 3 years?

Actually I didn't point that out :)

And his minutes the last few years are reduced. Further, playing team-ball == not whining about how HIS game is being repressed, instead of talking about the TEAM.

AI use to be a "me first" player. Again, if you watched him in Denver and Detroit, you would know he was definitely a team player through and through. His 30 shot days are over(again 3 years ago.) . In the early 76er days, 30 shots a day was the norm, no doubt. Not anymore. I don't know why this is rocket science to you guys.

:rofl

Do YOU watch basketball games?

With Denver, Carmelo was the man, plays run for him were reduced and he was STILL jacking up shots. Look at the total number of shots he took in seasons with the 76'ers vice the ones in Denver, even with one of the most efficient offensive players in the league in Carmelo, AI was STILL jacking up shots.

It's harder to take 30 shots a game when you have a couple of other guys who are also getting their shots. But notice how Denver got dramatically better when AI was shipped out? Team player :wonder:

With Detroit, he was playing about 6 minutes a game less so less time for him to jack-up shots. And yet he STILL took almost as many shots there as his first season with Denver. Also, you will notice that when he played with Melo, his shooting percentage went UP because Melo attracted more attention, and yet his assists per game, even with the talent around him, never went up?

[methimpikehoses]

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[DiscipleDOC]

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This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. This was one of the things that showed me the light on how screwed up he truly is. He used to think that he was too good to even go to practice.:headexplode:

[Sazar]

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That's EPIC :D

[Tygerwoody]

Actually I didn't point that out :)

And his minutes the last few years are reduced. Further, playing team-ball == not whining about how HIS game is being repressed, instead of talking about the TEAM.



:rofl

Do YOU watch basketball games?

With Denver, Carmelo was the man, plays run for him were reduced and he was STILL jacking up shots. Look at the total number of shots he took in seasons with the 76'ers vice the ones in Denver, even with one of the most efficient offensive players in the league in Carmelo, AI was STILL jacking up shots.

It's harder to take 30 shots a game when you have a couple of other guys who are also getting their shots. But notice how Denver got dramatically better when AI was shipped out? Team player :wonder:

With Detroit, he was playing about 6 minutes a game less so less time for him to jack-up shots. And yet he STILL took almost as many shots there as his first season with Denver. Also, you will notice that when he played with Melo, his shooting percentage went UP because Melo attracted more attention, and yet his assists per game, even with the talent around him, never went up?

Again. Use facts instead of "duuurr he wuz jacking up shots!!!!"


Did you noticed Allen Iverson's FG percentage at Memphis? 57% . Thats shot jacking? LOL!!!! Your argument is pathetic.


And you say that Allen was surrounded by talent at Denver. Thats it. No... he wasn't. He had Carmelo. Thats it. Camby was always hurt. Kenyon was always hurt. Nene had cancer and never played. JR Smith was only 1/4th the player he is now. They had zero depth. Denver is a completely different team now. I for one know a ton about denver. They were my favorite team for damn sakes. They strugged constantly , completely due to injuries and the fact they didn't have a point guard. AI isn't a true point guard. He can get the assists, but he's not a point guard. He's a shooting guard.

BTW. AI's average shots per game for the past 3 years is around 16. Just FYI. So much for your shot jacking theory.

[methimpikehoses]

LOL he played 3 games at Memphis. That 57% means nothing. :rofl

He's a shot jacker. Always has been always will be.