Windows 7 can't stop Mac OS X

[hell_of_doom227]

MacOS and Linux failed in past, they fail now and they will fail in the future because of hard headed people behind it.

Linux community does not understand that 94% of users out there don't want to do any **** in terminal.

[DiscipleDOC]

**** microsoft, its over son :cry:

RIP windows

I don't know why, but this was quite funny to me....:rofl

[LydianKnight]

MacOS and Linux failed in past, they fail now and they will fail in the future because of hard headed people behind it.

Linux community does not understand that 94% of users out there don't want to do any **** in terminal.

Even if this is a bit off-topic, I would like to tell you a couple of things...

1. If you're up for gaming, yes, Linux fails miserably, hundreds of Quake clones isn't what I could call 'a game', and about the hard headed people... well... while the FSF is full of zealots (stallman being the most famous one) not everyone is so close minded...

2. About the console thingy... that's because you're essentially using the worst possible element to define a OS experience: a distro. Go grab a copy of LFS/CLFS, spend a week compiling and then tell me if it's the same... bet not :P

and now on-topic (quote aside)

You know what's the worst about MacOS? the people behind it... now that's being a bunch of zealots, but don't worry... Macs are usually toys for rich guys or people with no need for gaming, otherwise, Windows is the OS of choice, whether if we like it or not

(just the pure truth)

Julio

[DiscipleDOC]

Even if this is a bit off-topic, I would like to tell you a couple of things...

1. If you're up for gaming, yes, Linux fails miserably, hundreds of Quake clones isn't what I could call 'a game', and about the hard headed people... well... while the FSF is full of zealots (stallman being the most famous one) not everyone is so close minded...

2. About the console thingy... that's because you're essentially using the worst possible element to define a OS experience: a distro. Go grab a copy of LFS/CLFS, spend a week compiling and then tell me if it's the same... bet not :P

and now on-topic (quote aside)

You know what's the worst about MacOS? the people behind it... now that's being a bunch of zealots, but don't worry... Macs are usually toys for rich guys or people with no need for gaming, otherwise, Windows is the OS of choice, whether if we like it or not

(just the pure truth)

Julio

What's the point of 'compiling' if you're not a programmer, or a hardcore enthusiast that just want to show people that they can do something that others can't?

I have used linux, and I'm not too impressed with it. I love being able to customize win7 and still play my games/ use office/etc.

While you're compiling, I'll be playing L4D2, or COD, or something to that extent...;)

[LydianKnight]

The point on compiling yourself the entire OS is it will be specifically tailored for your architecture, distros are very very bloated with tons of unwanted modules, even if they're inactive until the right piece of hardware comes into play, they're bit bloating (but to be honest I have to admit I adore monolithic kernels, I hate modularity in it).

The overall speed & responsiveness is greater with a custom compilation than with a generic one, and I have tested 15 different distros against my custom one, mine wins for every test or usage condition (honestly).

About Windows 7, yeah, I agree with you, it's what I'm currently testing and I have to say I'm very impressed with it, so much for my next PC (just lacking... erm... a GT300 ¬¬) I'll be using only Windows 7 on it, but still... for my 2nd computer (a laptop) I want Linux on it, some apps are great and in Windows I can't find them, like, for example... a batch renamer (which I expected Windows Live Photo Gallery to have, and to my dissapointment, it doesn't...)

:P

[DiscipleDOC]

The point on compiling yourself the entire OS is it will be specifically tailored for your architecture, distros are very very bloated with tons of unwanted modules, even if they're inactive until the right piece of hardware comes into play, they're bit bloating (but to be honest I have to admit I adore monolithic kernels, I hate modularity in it).

Why? Why compile?

The overall speed & responsiveness is greater with a custom compilation than with a generic one, and I have tested 15 different distros against my custom one, mine wins for every test or usage condition (honestly).
I have a gaming rig. My rig is fast enough. What's the purpose of compiling again?

About Windows 7, yeah, I agree with you, it's what I'm currently testing and I have to say I'm very impressed with it, so much for my next PC (just lacking... erm... a GT300 ¬¬) I'll be using only Windows 7 on it, but still... for my 2nd computer (a laptop) I want Linux on it, some apps are great and in Windows I can't find them, like, for example... a batch renamer (which I expected Windows Live Photo Gallery to have, and to my dissapointment, it doesn't...)

:P

I have nothing wrong with using linux. My point is that some linux/mac users walk around with a chip on their should as if their poop don't stink (I'm not saying that you do this). I mean, look at the mac commercials. At first, they were funny. Now, they are just pathetic. Apple is doing what a lot of politicians do, and that is pissing off the consumers with their assumption that the consumer is just plain dumb.

It all boils down to what is it you want to accomplish on your machine, and what do you feel comfortable in using to do the task.

[LydianKnight]

Why? Why compile?

There's several reasons for me to do it. First, because, as a computer technician, I also want to be able to help Linux people if given the case, so I need to know the 'internals' of Linux a bit at least. Second, because for my own machine I want the highest possible performance even if the gain is not very noticeable. Third, because some libraries inside distros aren't compiled with every option (like some options for the XML parser, or SSL sockets, or even an IM client like Pidgin, things like that).

Basically, that's why... because I want+like to do it :P

I have a gaming rig. My rig is fast enough. What's the purpose of compiling again?

In that case, I can't put any single argument against yours, and frankly speaking, I would think the same, if I were to design a gaming rig (which my next PC is) I don't wanna mess with the system, just install what it needs, what I want and I'm on the go. Agree in that point, but we're talking about Linux, I don't use it for gaming (although I sometimes use the pSX emulator with it for some good ol' gaming, retro-style ^^)

I have nothing wrong with using linux. My point is that some linux/mac users walk around with a chip on their should as if their poop don't stink (I'm not saying that you do this). I mean, look at the mac commercials. At first, they were funny. Now, they are just pathetic. Apple is doing what a lot of politicians do, and that is pissing off the consumers with their assumption that the consumer is just plain dumb.

It all boils down to what is it you want to accomplish on your machine, and what do you feel comfortable in using to do the task.

I understand your point, and I also agree with it. My usual tasks with Linux are image classification (like batch renaming them and then transporting them back to Windows), retro-gaming (MAME, pSX and the like...) and checking my bank account online (no matter how cool can Windows be, don't trust it yet for that (even if I have to admit it's a naive fear, but still... fear it)).

About the 'poop' comment, haha yes, I understand, and I'm the first to criticize some things of Linux, like... for example, the GStreamer framework not having a fkin' functional DVD library (oh, c'mon... it's not that difficult), native Linux games being blatant copies of Quake 3 (so it's a no-no for me), and, of course, all the zealotry going around about 'this is free, it's the only you should care about...', which is pathetic, if you ask me...

Julio

[hell_of_doom227]

I'd rather spend 3 hours programming in Visual Studio .NET then waste my time on compiling OS which should be ready out of box for more useful and smarter things.

Therefore LINUX fails.

[DiscipleDOC]

There's several reasons for me to do it. First, because, as a computer technician, I also want to be able to help Linux people if given the case, so I need to know the 'internals' of Linux a bit at least. Second, because for my own machine I want the highest possible performance even if the gain is not very noticeable. Third, because some libraries inside distros aren't compiled with every option (like some options for the XML parser, or SSL sockets, or even an IM client like Pidgin, things like that).

Basically, that's why... because I want+like to do it :P
This was my initial point.



In that case, I can't put any single argument against yours, and frankly speaking, I would think the same, if I were to design a gaming rig (which my next PC is) I don't wanna mess with the system, just install what it needs, what I want and I'm on the go. Agree in that point, but we're talking about Linux, I don't use it for gaming (although I sometimes use the pSX emulator with it for some good ol' gaming, retro-style ^^)
Ok...let's take a different approach. How about to the normal user? Do you think that the normal user would find it easier to use a Linux/Mac or a PC...? I would say (by the market share) a PC.


I understand your point, and I also agree with it. My usual tasks with Linux are image classification (like batch renaming them and then transporting them back to Windows), retro-gaming (MAME, pSX and the like...) and checking my bank account online (no matter how cool can Windows be, don't trust it yet for that (even if I have to admit it's a naive fear, but still... fear it)).

About the 'poop' comment, haha yes, I understand, and I'm the first to criticize some things of Linux, like... for example, the GStreamer framework not having a fkin' functional DVD library (oh, c'mon... it's not that difficult), native Linux games being blatant copies of Quake 3 (so it's a no-no for me), and, of course, all the zealotry going around about 'this is free, it's the only you should care about...', which is pathetic, if you ask me...

Julio

Cheers, bro! ;)
:alc:

[LydianKnight]

Ok...let's take a different approach. How about to the normal user? Do you think that the normal user would find it easier to use a Linux/Mac or a PC...? I would say (by the market share) a PC

Me too. A PC with Windows is the clear winner.

Cheers ^^

[Johnny C]

MacOS and Linux failed in past, they fail now and they will fail in the future because of hard headed people behind it.

Linux community does not understand that 94% of users out there don't want to do any **** in terminal.

I agree....the days of dos and basic are over....

I have no desire to deal with linux based solely on the sheer ridiculousness of how much time it takes to install simple programs.

[Atomizer]

Honestly, I like both linux and windows, however, they have their specialties, linux is definently better for the tech freaks like me, though since im also a gamer I have stuck to windows for my main machines, and linux as servers(started running my own TF2 server etc)
MacOS though.....can diaf, quite honestly

[Misfire]

I am a multi-OS user, they all have their own specialties. While basically all the major os's, linux, mac OSX, windows all do the basic things like word processing, internet browsing, and other basic tasks, its really the software that are on the platforms that I use those OS's for.

Windows: Games, Games, Games, GAMES.

Linux: linux is a powerhouse for servers, running hlds/srcds on linux is just a lot speedier and gives a more consistent and better performance. I have only used Ubuntu, but the latest version has really gotten better in terms of its look. But yeah uBuntu was always fairly easy to use, and not much terminal fiddling was needed.

Mac OSX: IMO, you can't really beat OSX on the creative side in terms of music production, Logic Pro 9 is definitely the best software for music production, Ableton as well. I also find that most of the apps (photoshop, premiere pro, after effects) on OSX are better in terms of functionality and stability. For my podcast, I use podcast maker to create chapters, no app like this exists on windows side unfortunately. Lastly, there is also an app only on osx for my HD PVR capture device that is better than its windows counterpart. A lot of movie producers also use Logic Studio for compiling and editing their films.

I am not bias toward any particular OS, because they all have their special uses for me. But for all basic tasks such as word processor, internet, youtube videos. You can't really go wrong with any of them.

[Drolfrawd]

**** microsoft, its over son :cry:

RIP windows

Lunatic

:wonder:

[Redeemed]

I don't know about ya'll- but all this new technology is just a money-makin' scam for these big corporations. I'm still rocking my Apple IIe that I bought when it was top of the line! Does everything I need it to do. :wonder:

[Atomizer]

I am a multi-OS user, they all have their own specialties. While basically all the major os's, linux, mac OSX, windows all do the basic things like word processing, internet browsing, and other basic tasks, its really the software that are on the platforms that I use those OS's for.

Windows: Games, Games, Games, GAMES.

Linux: linux is a powerhouse for servers, running hlds/srcds on linux is just a lot speedier and gives a more consistent and better performance. I have only used Ubuntu, but the latest version has really gotten better in terms of its look. But yeah uBuntu was always fairly easy to use, and not much terminal fiddling was needed.

Mac OSX: IMO, you can't really beat OSX on the creative side in terms of music production, Logic Pro 9 is definitely the best software for music production, Ableton as well. I also find that most of the apps (photoshop, premiere pro, after effects) on OSX are better in terms of functionality and stability. For my podcast, I use podcast maker to create chapters, no app like this exists on windows side unfortunately. Lastly, there is also an app only on osx for my HD PVR capture device that is better than its windows counterpart. A lot of movie producers also use Logic Studio for compiling and editing their films.

I am not bias toward any particular OS, because they all have their special uses for me. But for all basic tasks such as word processor, internet, youtube videos. You can't really go wrong with any of them.

Honestly, I still dont get why people say Photoshop is better running on OSX, its the same program, why would running it on OSX magically make it so much better? What is better about it? I really want to find out

[Viral]

I've use Photoshop daily on OSX Leopard (Mac Pro Dual Xeon L5238 2.66GHz (2 CPU's - 4 cores) 8GB DDRII) and PC (in sig @ stock settings) under vista x64 and found my PC to be better.

You can see it right away with the time Photoshop takes to open, up to twice as fast on my PC and that's not installed on my SSD raid either.