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3777
11-07-09, 01:18 AM
I recently purchased a laptop as some of you may know. The laptop came with VISTA Home Premium SP2 :cool:

I was also promised a free upgrade disk for Windows 7. I had my doubts but the Windows 7 CD arrived as promised, & rather then put the upgrade in my laptop, which already had Vista Premium SP2, I decided to upgrade my Carl AS ROCK (nana2) Weathers Core 2 Duo HD3850 AGP (lee) Desktop instead. Since getting the laptop, I felt Vista was faster and smoother then XP and so I was ready to bring AGP into the modern era. :cool:

The system upgraded FLAWLESSLY and Carl AS ROCK Weathers is running 1000% times better under Windows 7 vs XP, however I really can't tell much of a difference between the feel and performance of Vista SP2 on the laptop and Windows 7 on the desktop.

For reference, the Laptop has 3 gigs of memory and a 350 gig hd vs 2 gigs memory and 280 gig HD on the desktop. The desktop has much better video, and slightly better processor but both are POWERFUL and DUAL CORE.

I also read an article stating the when benchmarking XP, Vista sp2 and Windows 7, Windows 7 and Vista SP2 were fairly equal and both blew XP Pro SP3 out of the water. From my own experience I would say this is correct and recommend Windows 7 upgrade if your running XP, but not so much if your have the now GRIZZLED SP2 version of Vista. :cool:

I would also like to say that Windows 7 rated my 512mb HD 3850 APG system experience as 7.1 which clearly demonstrates the DOMINANCE. :cool:

CaptNKILL
11-07-09, 02:52 AM
Oh no, not this again. :rofl

Rakeesh
11-07-09, 03:05 AM
On second thought, I think it would be pretty irresponsible of me to not post this photo:

http://adsoftheworld.com/files/images/Print---Public-Service-Social-Welfare-Camp---Drug-Rehab---No-Such-Thing---Heroine.jpg

Rakeesh
11-07-09, 03:13 AM
edit: doh double post

mullet
11-07-09, 07:26 AM
LaLwZZ

Johnny C
11-07-09, 08:30 AM
This is like clockwork....every time the moon is full....this guy shows up posting AGP's dominance.

FearMeAll
11-07-09, 08:30 AM
This thread put a smile on my face.
I like both windows 7 and vista sp2 myself. They are pretty close performance wise for me. But my pc rocks quad core at a stable 3.5 ghz.

UberRN69
11-07-09, 11:09 AM
This is like clockwork....every time the moon is full....this guy shows up posting AGP's dominance.

He either some guy that's is just sarcastic has hell and gets his 'sh1t's & giggles' from posting this AGP stuff, or he is just some high functioning Down's Syndrome kid who is allowed to play on the PC at the group home he lives at every couple of weeks.

Yaboze
11-07-09, 11:36 AM
I doubt a 3850 got a 7.1. I don't think a 8800 GTX breaks 7.0 and that blows the 3850 away.

JasonPC
11-07-09, 12:27 PM
http://www.acr0nym.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1121&g2_serialNumber=1

3777
11-07-09, 12:39 PM
I doubt a 3850 got a 7.1. I don't think a 8800 GTX breaks 7.0 and that blows the 3850 away.

You better check your references sir, the HD 3850 is in fact SUPERIOR to all 8800 series cards. The Windows 7 Video Experience rating in the control panel for my AGP (lee) 512mb HD 3850 is indeed 7.1, though the overall score is lower because of the 2mb memory.

Another jealous lowly PCI-E user in denial of the DOMINANCE. :cool:


Important to note: If any SUPERIOR APG users are out there, to install an ATI series AGP card in windows 7 you must download the Vista 9.10 AGP hotfix drivers to your computer & extract them to a directory. Then, install the driver directly from device manager using the ATI directory and you're all set. :cool:

nekrosoft13
11-07-09, 12:39 PM
great, mentally retarded are allowed to post

ViN86
11-07-09, 12:43 PM
LOL this OP is hilarious :rofl

Atomizer
11-07-09, 12:45 PM
Obvious troll is obvious

einstein_314
11-07-09, 01:13 PM
You better check your references sir, the HD 3850 is in fact SUPERIOR to all 8800 series cards. The Windows 7 Video Experience rating in the control panel for my AGP (lee) 512mb HD 3850 is indeed 7.1, though the overall score is lower because of the 2mb memory.

Another jealous lowly PCI-E user in denial of the DOMINANCE. :cool:


Important to note: If any SUPERIOR APG users are out there, to install an ATI series AGP card in windows 7 you must download the Vista 9.10 AGP hotfix drivers to your computer & extract them to a directory. Then, install the driver directly from device manager using the ATI directory and you're all set. :cool:
LOLZ. Every benchmark I've seen puts the 3850 slightly BEHINDthe 8800gtx. I don't think the Windows 7 video experience rating can be considered a thorough accurate. benchmark. If it were, we should be using that to review video cards....

3777
11-07-09, 01:14 PM
Here is the article I mentioned in my original post for additional reference regarding Windows 7 vs Vista SP2 & XP SP3. :cool:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-7-vs-Vista-SP2-vs-XP-SP3-Performance-Comparison-124820.shtml


& Einstein, I know you're not exactly a dim bulb sir, but are you are looking at benchmarks for the 256mb 3850 HD or the AGP 512mb HD 3850? The only 8800 series card that may match or slightly edge the 3850 is the Ultra, but regardless there isn't an 8800 series card on the planet that "Blows the 512 mb HD 3850 out of the water" as the previous poster stated. :cool:

JasonPC
11-07-09, 01:20 PM
Why does one care if a 3 year old card is slightly better or worse than a 2 year old card? Oh wait I forgot we're talking about green frog man here.

B0ne
11-07-09, 03:44 PM
BIG BOLD WORDS

bob saget
11-07-09, 04:59 PM
omfg :rofl

ViN86
11-07-09, 05:26 PM
This 3777 guy is off his rocker.

Hey, let's argue about AC vs. DC current and which is better. We can argue about which our electricity grid should use and why.

That's about as relevant as the 8800 vs 3850 discussion...

Mr Bigman
11-07-09, 07:01 PM
No kidding he is off.

This guy is the same guy who thinks his ashrock mobo agp blows away modern hardware?

And he thinks the 3850 is more superior than 8800's Wow just wow maybe a 7800 but no im sorry not an 8800 gts.

3777 , due go back to the club hose and rethink your statement.

3777
11-07-09, 07:25 PM
The Superiority stands on its own merits. :cool: The main thing to consider here is that Windows 7 is simply Windows Vista sp2 with a few features changed around. Vista is a name that can't be marketed because of the way it was at launch, even though the now polished sp2 version of Vista is essentially what people are buying when they get Windows 7.

So is Windows 7 worth the upgrade if you are running XP? Absolutely, you're basically getting the rebadged 3 year old polished version of Vista. But for the roughly 18% of Windows users who currently have Vista with SP2, Windows 7, like PCI-E, is nothing more then a cheap marketing gimmick and could have been released to Vista owners as free service pack. :cool:

That said, like PCI-E, many people who understand will stick with Vista just as many have stuck with AGP. :cool:

mcolbourn
11-08-09, 11:12 AM
That said, like PCI-E, many people who understand will stick with Vista just as many have stuck with AGP. :cool:

I just love that comment :headexplode:

Bearclaw
11-08-09, 11:54 AM
lol. u serious, clark?


ROLL EM UP.

Yaboze
11-08-09, 01:16 PM
You better check your references sir, the HD 3850 is in fact SUPERIOR to all 8800 series cards. The Windows 7 Video Experience rating in the control panel for my AGP (lee) 512mb HD 3850 is indeed 7.1, though the overall score is lower because of the 2mb memory.

Another jealous lowly PCI-E user in denial of the DOMINANCE. :cool:


Important to note: If any SUPERIOR APG users are out there, to install an ATI series AGP card in windows 7 you must download the Vista 9.10 AGP hotfix drivers to your computer & extract them to a directory. Then, install the driver directly from device manager using the ATI directory and you're all set. :cool:

Post the detailed WEI rating then. Go to the Windows Experience Rating screen, at the bottom right, under the HD rating, is a printer icon and a link to the detailed info. This shows your hardware, etc. Post that and then you can post here. Failure to post that just proves you are full of sh1t.

Benchmarks here show the PCI-E version of the card, which should be faster, is slower than a 8800 GT! Lay off the crack, please.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2217140,00.asp