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Heinz68
11-17-09, 04:37 PM
VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhTb2DRPUoI): ATI Radeon HD 5970 Video Card Presentation by David Cummings

TechSpot (http://www.techspot.com/review/221-ati-radeon-hd-5970/page17.html) Final Thoughts
As expected the Radeon HD 5970 is vastly superior to the GeForce GTX 295 in terms of performance beating it in every single test, at all tested resolutions.
On average the Radeon HD 5970 was 53% faster than the GeForce GTX 295 at 2560x1600. Even removing the top three tests where the Radeon led with the biggest margins (BattleForge, Enemy Territory and Street Fighter IV), the HD 5970 still ended up some 34% faster than the GTX 295.

AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3679&p=17) Completing AMD's Takeover of the High End GPU Market
There are two things that become very clear when looking at our data for the 5970

1. It’s hands down the fastest single card on the market
2. It’s so fast that it’s wasted on a single monitor

AMD made a good choice in enabling Crossfire Eyefinity for the 5970, as they have made a card so fast that it basically shoots past everything on the market that isn’t Crysis. All of our action games that aren’t CPU limited do better than 100fps at 2560x1600, and RTSs are doing just under 60fps. The 5970 is without a doubt Overkill (with a capital O) on a single monitor. This will likely change for future games (i.e. STALKER), but on today’s games it’s more power than is necessary to drive even the largest single monitor. The 5970 still offers a good performance boost over the 5870 even with a single monitor, but with the 5870’s outstanding performance, it’s not $200 better.

TechPowerUp (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_5970_CrossFire/28.html) HIS HD 5970 CrossFire (Quadfire)
It sure isn't the most sensible thing to spend $1200 on two graphics cards, that dump about 600W of heat in your room when fully loaded, that barely fit inside your computer, and that make a quite some fan noise. But oh boy, the frames fly like you've never seen before! The "All Resolutions" performance summary graph simply doesn't do justice as HD 5970 CrossFire gets irrelevant, and CPU-limited in lower resolutions. 2560x1600 seems to be the only resolution where having a pair of these will allow you to splurge on eye-candy like never before.

If you want to build the fastest rig money can buy then a HD 5970 CrossFire setup is what you need. Die-hard overclockers all over the planet will open their wallets and camp the online stores to get a pair of these, unfortunately supply will be limited.

TechPowerUp (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/EAH5970/35.html) ASUS EAH5970
This dual-GPU graphics accelerator has proven itself to be a real monstrosity in terms of its performance, and is the fastest money can buy...if available in your friendly neighbourhood hardware store. Being the fifth dual-GPU flagship accelerator since DirectX 10, the Radeon HD 5970 asserts that dual-GPU cards are here to stay, and however much a company would prefer making monolithic single-GPU designs, at some point, it will find the need to release a dual-GPU flagship accelerator to maintain competitiveness in the high-end segment.

Hexus.net (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21179&page=13)
Zipping through benchmarks at 2,560x1,600, and you really need this kind of ultra-high setting to do the card justice, we can categorically say that it succeeds in usurping the GTX 295's title... and in some style. Indeed, the legendary Greek philosopher Socrates and NVIDIA's high-end GPUs have something in common: they've both been poisoned by Hemlock.

HotHardware (http://hothardware.com/Articles/ATI-Radeon-HD-5970-DualGPU-Powerhouse/?page=12) Dual-GPU Powerhouse
Performance Summary: Summarizing the ATI Radeon HD 5970's performance couldn't be any easier. The Radeon HD 5970 is simply the fastest, most powerful single graphics card available today. The Radeon HD 5970 offered better performance than every other graphics card we tested, regardless of the game or application

Tom'sHardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5970,2474-16.html) The World's Fastest Graphics Card
I don’t remember the last time I covered the same company’s embargoed launches four times (totaling five distinct products) in fewer than two months. In that short span, ATI has completely preempted Nvidia in enabling DirectX 11 support from the $100 to $600 segments. The initiative now lies almost exclusively with ATI; Nvidia has to play catch-up across its entire discrete desktop portfolio.

LegionHardware (http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=867&p=11)
Furthermore, out of the dozen games we tested with, the Radeon HD 5970 was found to be on average 45% faster than the GeForce GTX 295 and 70% faster than the Radeon HD 4870 X2. That is quite incredible really, and even in many worst case scenarios the Radeon HD 5970 out gunned the GeForce GTX 295 by around a 30% performance margin.
WOW 70% faster than my HD 4870 X2. I should get the HD 5970 ASAP :)

DriverHeaven (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=885&pageid=1)
gaming with this monster is a fantastic experience. In everything but Crysis Warhead we were able to play at 2560x1600 and often with 8x anti-aliasing. It is hard to push a card any harder than that

HardwareCanucks (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/25628-sapphire-radeon-hd-5970-2gb-oc-edition-review-24.html) Conclusion
There is simply no denying that the HD 5970 is a ridiculously fast card with heaps of performance and loads of potential. It can finally be said that ATI has wrested the ultra high end single card performance crown away from NVIDIA and has done so without a real challenger in sight. It is so fast in fact that other than using it for some Eyefinity goodness; we really don’t know what application will ever take advantage of the insane amounts of rendering power it brings to the table.

TheGuru3D (http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5970-review-test/28) The Verdict
Well -- make no mistake, without any doubt ATI has build the fastest graphics card in the world. If it fits in your chassis that is ! Man this fracker is long. If you even remotely opt this card, please make sure you have enough clearance inside that PC. Most ATX big-towers chassis will not have an issue with the length but you'd be wise to check anyway -- remember 30cm / 12 in.

PCPerspective (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=820) - AMD Radeon HD 5970 2GB Review - AMDomination
We expected the new Radeon HD 5970 graphics card to be an absolute beast in the benchmarks and our expectations were right on with this release. When the HD 5870 first came out it left a little wiggle room between the GTX 285 and the GTX 295 for some slight lingering doubt about whose GPU was the out and out fastest in the market (not looking at features). The HD 5970 erases any of those doubts by overpowering the GTX 295 in every single benchmark we threw at it, including Batman: Arkham Asylum and Resident Evil 5 that usually lean towards NVIDIA.

HardwareZone (http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=3072&cid=3&pg=1) - The king Returns
Overall, there can be no doubting the power and speed of the new Radeon HD 5970. It is simply blazing fast, and as far as single graphics cards go, nothing in the market comes close. The previous speed king, the GeForce GTX 295, has been utterly outclassed by ATI's newest dual-GPU offering.
What's more, it does so by offering very impressive levels of power efficiency. In our tests, it easily overpowered the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 and was on average about 20% faster. Despite that, it also managed to achieve markedly lower power consumption figures. This is testament to the new Evergreen chips' efficiency and is certainly amazing, to say the least.

Lab501 (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/ati-radeon-hd5970-ave-hemlock-morituri-te-salutant) Romanian, Google Translate (http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ro&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Flab501.ro%2Fplaci-video%2Fati-radeon-hd5970-ave-hemlock-morituri-te-salutant)
The Lab501 site is down due to server overload, They're working on the problem and it should be up soon again. Here is the owner message at XtremeSystem Forum (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4114499&postcount=30)

Toss3
11-17-09, 05:20 PM
Hmm are these beta drivers they're using(it clearly says beta, but are these the old betas or new ones?)? Pretty much what I was expecting performance wise, but the drivers still need some work as they don't appear to work properly in DoW II. Was hoping for a 500$ price tag, but the lack of competition really shows its ugly head here.

HYBRID
11-17-09, 06:09 PM
That thing is a beast Heinz, I Know it's got you're name on it. :)

Need a nice big case like the Corsair 800D. I own it, that's the type of case to facilitate that GFX monster, and I thought my previous GTX295 and my xfire 5870 where. lol

Toss3
11-17-09, 06:43 PM
That thing is a beast Heinz, I Know it's got you're name on it. :)

Need a nice big case like the Corsair 800D. I own it, that's the type of case to facilitate that GFX monster, and I thought my previous GTX295 and my xfire 5870 where. lol

That's an amazing case! :thumbsup: Wish they hadn't made the side-window that big though as I don't like looking at my psu. Would be the perfect case for watercooling, but 230€ for a case is a bit much.

Could you post some pics of your setup?

Heinz68
11-17-09, 07:00 PM
That thing is a beast Heinz, I Know it's got you're name on it. :)

Need a nice big case like the Corsair 800D. I own it, that's the type of case to facilitate that GFX monster, and I thought my previous GTX295 and my xfire 5870 where. lol

The Corsair 800D is AWESOME case, wish I did see it when I bought the Cosmos S case, but maybe it was not around than.

Anyway there is plenty of room in the Cosmos S case for the HD 5970 and I like the sporty look.

I know the HD 5870 Crossfire is faster than the HD 5970 but I hope overclocking the card to the same clocks as the HD 5870 should give close to same performance. Lets see more benchmarks, hope some with overclocking.

The main reason I didn't buy the Crossfire on two cards is that I can't use the PCI-E slot 3 on the ASUS Rampage II Extreme for dual slot card and I didn't want to run the cards on slot 1 and 2, too close together. Plus getting the HD 5970 cost about $200 less.

Toss3
11-17-09, 07:05 PM
The Corsair 800D is AWESOME case, wish I did see it when I bought the Cosmos S case, but maybe it was not around than.

Anyway there is plenty of room in the Cosmos S case for the HD 5970 and I like the sporty look.

I know the HD 5870 Crossfire is faster than the HD 5970 but I hope overclocking the card to the same clocks as the HD 5870 should give close to same performance. Lets see more benchmarks, hope some with overclocking.

The main reason I didn't buy the Crossfire on two cards is that I can't use the PCI-E slot 3 on the ASUS Rampage II Extreme for dual slot card and I didn't want to run the cards on slot 1 and 2, too close together. Plus getting the HD 5970 cost about $200 less.

Think you're going to need some better cooling if you plan on getting somewhere close to 1Ghz on the cores. :)

HYBRID
11-17-09, 07:34 PM
http://i36.tinypic.com/2e651yp.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/s5cx1j.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/dz9dw0.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2hqtp2f.jpg

Here is a few inside the case I don't have any pics for the outside. (nana2)

Johnny C
11-17-09, 08:20 PM
Hmm are these beta drivers they're using(it clearly says beta, but are these the old betas or new ones?)? Pretty much what I was expecting performance wise, but the drivers still need some work as they don't appear to work properly in DoW II. Was hoping for a 500$ price tag, but the lack of competition really shows its ugly head here.

Lack of competition and shortage of chips...plus wasn't the GTX 280 close to that price at launch before the 4800 series were released?

I give credit to ATi for launching the 5870 @ 430 CAD...when it's closest competition is the GTX 295 which still costs north of 500 CAD.

nV isn't even trying to compete for our dollars right now.

I'm also betting the core voltage is low on the two GPU's which is keeping the overclocking down...but also the power consumption and heat in check.

Toss3
11-17-09, 08:39 PM
Here is a few inside the case I don't have any pics for the outside. (nana2)

Looks very nice! :) Maybe I'll have to reconsider getting an 800D now.. :bleh: Gonna go 5850 crossfire soon anyways and my current case is too small for my gtx360 rad.

Heinz68
11-17-09, 10:27 PM
Think you're going to need some better cooling if you plan on getting somewhere close to 1Ghz on the cores. :)

I hope not. Looks like the HD 5970 has very much improved cooler compared to my HD 4870.
Read the TechPowerUP (http://www.techpowerup.com/108440/Radeon_HD_5970_Offers_Massive_Overclocking_Headroo m.html) article and check the second picture.
I also have 6 x 1200rpm case fans ( 3out & 3in air) which also should help.
Had to remove the huge huge 200 x 230 x 30 mm side panel fan it was interfering with the Ultra 120 eXtreme cooler which is to high. I did know about it when I bought the case but was planning to water cool the CPU with triple radiator for which the case is perfect.

Than I found out about the "Thermaltake Xpressar RCB400 Series (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/industry/2009/01/21/thermaltake-xpressar-rcb400-series-the-bay-drive-unit-refrigeration-system-for-cpu-and-vga/1) – The bay-drive unit refrigeration system" and decided to wait for it. It was supposed to be out Q2 or Q3 2009 and cost about $450. Not bad since good custom build water cooling might not cost much less.

No more recent news about the RCB400 at Thermaltake site, maybe it was delayed for ever.

Heinz68
11-17-09, 10:40 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/2hqtp2f.jpg

Here is a few inside the case I don't have any pics for the outside. (nana2)

Looking good. Maybe I should also get the Corsair cooler, looks like easy installation and than i can put the side panel fan back on.

Hope it cools at least as the Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme.

KasuCode
11-18-09, 12:11 AM
Good work Heinz68

This card is damn nice.

Read the reviews is all about overclocking.

They kept the clockspeed down to stay under the 300Watt TDP for OEMs

The cards hitting almost 900Mhz core and 1275Mhz memory.



Watch the PCPer video. He explains a bit.

KasuCode
11-18-09, 12:38 AM
http://hardocp.com/article/2009/11/18/amd_ati_radeon_hd_5970_video_card_review


Hardocp got 900Mhz Core 1350Mhz Memory


From 4Ghz memory to 5.4Ghz pretty damn nice.

AMC_Duke
11-18-09, 01:58 AM
My 5970 is on the way :-D

lee63
11-18-09, 02:02 AM
My 5970 is on the way :-DWhere did you buy it from ?

AMC_Duke
11-18-09, 02:05 AM
http://www.alternate.de/html/categoryListing.html?cat1=9&cat2=474&cat3=0&bfbox=0&&tn=HARDWARE&l1=Grafik&l2=PCIe-Karten+ATI&l3=Radeon+HD5000&


Sapphir powercolor ones are in stock in germany

but they are 599 Euro

lee63
11-18-09, 02:18 AM
http://www.alternate.de/html/categoryListing.html?cat1=9&cat2=474&cat3=0&bfbox=0&&tn=HARDWARE&l1=Grafik&l2=PCIe-Karten+ATI&l3=Radeon+HD5000&


Sapphir powercolor ones are in stock in germany

but they are 599 Euro$890 :scarey:

LordJuanlo
11-18-09, 02:30 AM
LOL what a beast of a card. It makes the GTX 295 look like a Riva TNT

HYBRID
11-18-09, 07:32 AM
Looking good. Maybe I should also get the Corsair cooler, looks like easy installation and than i can put the side panel fan back on.

Hope it cools at least as the Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme.


Intersting you mention the Ultra which is what I had in the Cosmos case before I changed it out to the 800D. The Ultra is a sweat air cooler, for me the H50 is just a sweet single rad water cooler my temps on these idle are 39,41,41,43 at the clocks in my sig. The ultra was about 43 45c idle again in the Cosmos case and load's were to high for my liking.

HYBRID
11-18-09, 07:33 AM
LOL what a beast of a card. It makes the GTX 295 look like a Riva TNT

LOL...thats what I said it does make the GTX295 look like a Riva TNT 128. ahahha

hell_of_doom227
11-18-09, 09:12 AM
LOL what a beast of a card. It makes the GTX 295 look like a Riva TNT

No it doesn't, not much faster then GTX295

HYBRID
11-18-09, 09:42 AM
No it doesn't, not much faster then GTX295

lol.......size wise not performance wise you boner. :cool:
You didnt change your 5870 out yet.

Toss3
11-18-09, 12:56 PM
No it doesn't, not much faster then GTX295

A true fanboy. ;) Honestly the performance is seriously limited by the clocks of the card. You can pretty easily achieve 900/1200Mhz by only increasing the core voltage a tad(should result in a 10% increase in performance across the board).

Heinz68
11-18-09, 02:43 PM
lol.......size wise not performance wise you boner. :cool:
You didnt change your 5870 out yet.
He can't change what he never had.
No it doesn't, not much faster then GTX295
I was wondering how long it will take before you start trolling this thread.
You don't have the GTX295 neither you have the HD 5970 but you know better than all the reviews posted in this thread.

Heinz68
11-18-09, 03:21 PM
Where did you buy it from ?

I also ordered Powercolor Radeon HD 5970 at NCIX Canadian site listed at 699.99 CAD.
700 CAD = 663 USD

Little ripoff since NCIXUS has the card listed in US for $611.27. Even more ripoff since NCIX is actually Canadian owned company. I should also say most time they keep the prices about the same like on the US site.

PS I just checked again, the $611.27 price was for the card when it was in stock.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5176/pchd5970.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/pchd5970.jpg/)

Now no longer in stock the price went up to $640.85 USD
NCIXUS.com (http://www.ncixus.com/products/46609/AX5970%202GBD5-MD/PowerColor/) Powercolor Radeon HD 5970