Windows vs Linux [Archive]

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colemancol

12-08-09, 01:02 PM

The fight between Windows and Linux has been nearly as overhyped as a Don King venture in a monster Vegas arena, screaming fans included. In one corner, hard-core Microsoft fans avow Windows Seven as the comeback kid of the new century, rising above all previous problems with Windows Vista. In the other, Linux boosters claim the open-source operating system is poised to power the enterprise from stem to stern, trash-talking Microsoft's bloated code and licensing gotchas along the way.

The truth, unfortunately, is far less dramatic. The real battles take place in smaller venues, where Windows wins sometimes and Linux pulls off its share of victories with little fanfare.

Those looking for blood are bound to be disappointed, as the two would-be combatants increasingly make an effort to play nice. For instance, although it has been possible to share files to Windows clients from Linux servers via Samba for years, only recently has integration with Active Directory been solid. Domain integration has always worked, but it was occasionally tenuous and difficult to administer. No more.

On the Windows side, the release of Microsoft Services for Unix 3.5 has shown that Redmond is providing some semblance of integration with modern Unix systems. SFU's network information service and network file system services are reasonably complete, and its Unix tool set even includes Perl and the Korn shell. In fact, these tools will be officially distributed with Windows Seven.

Rather than force all network services onto a single platform, most enterprises are implementing Linux servers in key areas. Although this trend is not exactly new, the areas served are changing. Any smart IT manager with carte blanche to design a new network should include both Windows and Linux as major players.

Historically, if a few Linux servers existed in a Windows network, they were orphans handling a single task that had little relation to the services provided by Windows. Today, Samba 3 provides true integration with Active Directory, making it easy to configure directory-authenticated Linux Web servers, FTP servers, file servers and especially database and network management services.

Conversely, stability improvements on the Microsoft side and Active Directory's reliance on the Domain Name System make the case for Windows servers to handle DNS and DHCP tasks. Although it's certainly possible to run an Active Directory environment with Linux providing the DNS and DHCP services, it's not as easy to manage.

DiscipleDOC

12-08-09, 01:07 PM

Sigh. :rolleyes2

supra

12-08-09, 06:23 PM

de ja vu :O

Drolfrawd

12-08-09, 06:28 PM

Linux is stress . windows aint.

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phaedrusiszen

12-09-09, 01:38 PM

Linux is stress . windows aint.

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Windows is stress. Linux isn't.
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LydianKnight

12-09-09, 01:58 PM

-1

pffffff not another thread about Windows VS Linux, this is just boring :zombie:

DiscipleDOC

12-09-09, 02:25 PM

Windows is stress. Linux isn't.
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:retard:

DiscipleDOC

12-09-09, 02:26 PM

-1

pffffff not another thread about Windows VS Linux, this is just boring :zombie:

It's a bot.

Redeemed

12-10-09, 10:49 PM

It's a bot.

MS-DOS + Windows 3.1 FTW!

My 1337 486 DX 66Mhz pwns all u newbs. :cool:

DiscipleDOC

12-11-09, 02:42 PM

Windows 2000

Dominates.

:bleh:

Redeemed

12-11-09, 09:12 PM

Windows 2000

Dominates.

:bleh:

C:\ _ > everything else

/thread

thefirstm

12-12-09, 04:53 AM

Moderator, please delete this thread. Flamewars between nerds and Microsoft lackeys is OK for the "Open Forum," but it needs to stay out of this area.

cajual

12-26-09, 06:39 PM

These threads are dumb because most Linux users dual boot with windows and are not HARDLINE Pro-Linux, but rather, utilize both for their strengths. Everyone knows that Windows is great for proprietary software and how most of the **** on the market is designed for it [Windows] due to its inherent popularity. However, once you learn the terminal, you find the idea of DOS to be rather mundane and archaic, especially since it has all but been phased out of Windows. I find the strengths of Linux to be how powerful the user is, the options to change and integrate almost everything, and the fact that it isn't super simplified for the lowest common denominator; see: Windows 7. The fact that Windows is becoming ever closer to OSX should have all the MS fanboys up in arms, but partisan hatred seems to be persistent, and when Microsoft and Apple are pushing out $200 USD operating systems that are exactly the same save for naming schemes, those of us who have mastered and love the world of Linux will be laughing from the sidelines. Fedora, FreeBSD, OpenSUSE, Redhat, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, LinuxMint, and other distributions offer the type of versatility you just can not find in Windows, so save the "but my $8219 COMPUTER WORKS BESTEST ON WINDOWS 7 BRAH 3182 FPS BRAH", and I will use my 3 year old laptop and Ubuntu to show you that you are just bad at video games.

hussam

12-26-09, 09:16 PM

I don't use windows and haven't used it since 2003 or 2004.
For me, it really feels like Linux is a superior platform for some reason. Everything works in a more logical way on Linux. Plus GNU tools are really a blessing. It's like there's a tool for everything your mind can image. A lot of times, I think "hey, why didn't windows XP have something like grep?" or "how did I survive on windows without grep or sed".
People say windows is easier. But to be honest, if you use the right distribution instead of distributions that over-patch like Ubuntu (no offence to Ubuntu, I really respect how they are pulling people to try Linux), you'll find that Linux can be much easier to use and maintain for the normal home/desktop user and it's not so intimidating as people think. The only catch is that Linux expects you to be computer literate and know what a display card is, etc.. which isn't so difficult.

Note: I'm not flaming windows. For some people windows may suffice so it is perfectly good. It just happened not to fit my requirements.

AaronR

12-28-09, 08:25 PM

I program and pull MacGyver's on Linux, and game on Windows.

Realistically the only thing on Windows I do is game. Why? Because the games I like are supported on it.

Linux for me has been much easier to deal with as it's much more straightforward (ie edit some configuration file or some specific tool) whereas on Windows I've always had to jump through hoops to get stuff to work.

You don't get viruses on Windows unless you actively use warez or download programs all the time, and you don't have a hard time on Linux unless you're a CLI junkie. Realistically nowadays it's easy to do stuff on Linux (and some people may have no choice with crappy desktops) so that's the way I'd go, but of course I can't not game.

People who were brought up on Mac like Macs, people who were brought up on Windows like Windows, people who were brought up on BSD like BSD, and people who were brought up on Linux like Linux. That's the way it is. They'll always bash each other (Yes, BSD users do sometimes bash Linux, and vice versa) and that's just how it is.

I'd never program on Windows and ATM (As in current conditions) I'd never game on Linux.

Arup

01-05-10, 02:05 AM

Actually with a good AV like Avira, running a limited account and with DEP on, you can keep windows quite secure as well.

ir123

01-08-10, 01:09 AM

LULZ why do some people still believe PC gaming is relevant? Windows fanbois are increasingly likening to Linux fanboys in impact and significance. Nobody who is still actually "into computers" is using Windows today, it's "just there". Only really sad fools are still raving about Windows 7, for example. It's like raving about the film quality of Transformers 2 and using popularity as evidence.

Arup

01-08-10, 03:49 AM

No sense in comparing, both are good in their own ways, it all depends on what you need your OS for and to each his/her own.

DiscipleDOC

01-08-10, 09:03 AM

Arup

01-08-10, 09:35 AM

Dual XEON with 16GB RAM here on Ubuntu ;)

DiscipleDOC

01-08-10, 10:01 AM

Dual XEON with 16GB RAM here on Ubuntu ;)

I was specifically speaking to the guy that wants to restart a flame war. I have no probs with you or the majority of users who love their o/s. ;)

Arup

01-08-10, 11:44 AM

I was specifically speaking to the guy that wants to restart a flame war. I have no probs with you or the majority of users who love their o/s. ;)

I know, just joking dude.

Peace.

ir123

01-10-10, 08:35 PM

LULZ for fool likes you that tries to keep drama going. keep using your l33t 486 machine and leave the real work to those that have a clue.

Truth hurts, eh? Protest too much. Move along,

no impact hypocrite restarting flame wars at members + fail = you

Go ahead and flame from the mod panel btw. The only worthwhile forum section around here is nvidia linux anyways.

Arup

01-10-10, 09:26 PM

The problem starts when Windows people come and comment on Linux forum and vice versa, it would be much nicer and civil to stay out of each other's threads. Considering that most Linux users here are ex Windows users, its a touchy issue, one best left on its own.

leigh123linux

01-10-10, 09:50 PM

Dual XEON with 16GB RAM here on Ubuntu ;)

You could run a heavy duty server with that much RAM :cool:

*******@fedoraforum.org's password:
[*******@ff1 home]$ uptime
21:39:12 up 348 days, 1:51, 1 user, load average: 0.60, 0.53, 0.46
[*******@ff1 home]$ free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 8311036 7804592 506444 0 637384 3349748
-/+ buffers/cache: 3817460 4493576
Swap: 1052248 64 1052184
[*******@ff1 home]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5430 @ 2.66GHz
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 2667.038
cache size : 6144 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 0
cpu cores : 4
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips : 5335.70

processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5430 @ 2.66GHz
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 2667.038
cache size : 6144 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 1
cpu cores : 4
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips : 5332.75

processor : 2
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5430 @ 2.66GHz
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 2667.038
cache size : 6144 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 2
cpu cores : 4
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips : 5332.79

processor : 3
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5430 @ 2.66GHz
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 2667.038
cache size : 6144 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 3
cpu cores : 4
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips : 5332.79

[*******@ff1 ~]# hdparm -Tt /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 24092 MB in 2.00 seconds = 12071.34 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 590 MB in 3.00 seconds = 196.37 MB/sec
[*******@ff1 ~]#