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Matthius
07-03-03, 05:29 AM
if they can make a 2ghz cpu, and a few months later, a 2.3, then a 2.4 etc etc, whats stopping them from making a super duper cpu?

retsam
07-03-03, 07:58 AM
ummmmm maybe the laws of physics has something to do with it anyways there are all sorts of timing issues the faster you go and the heat that something that fast would generate would cause your own personal chenobel :firedevil :firedevil

Geforce4ti4200
07-03-03, 08:48 AM
i am gonna wager a guess that old age will claim us before we see 20GHz........

deejaya
07-03-03, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
i am gonna wager a guess that old age will claim us before we see 20GHz........

You're on, I am pretty certain we will have something around 1 THz way before most of us die :)

nutball
07-03-03, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
i am gonna wager a guess that old age will claim us before we see 20GHz........

Hummm...let me see. I'm old enough to remember the arrival of 2MHz CPUs, 20MHz CPUs, 200MHz CPUs and 2000MHz CPUs.

20GHz is a walk in the park :p

Now I'm assuming you're not posting here from an old folks home, personally I intend to live long enough to make 20GHz processors into earrings for my girlfriend.

Isn't Tejas supposed to scale to nearly 10GHz anyway? Or was that Banias, or some other codename?

The Baron
07-03-03, 10:51 AM
That was Tejas.

schuey74
07-03-03, 11:28 AM
Well it seems like gigahertz may not be the best way to measure a CPUs performance in the future. Heck, we are seeing it now w/ AMD & Intel and you can even see it in video card GPU/VPUs. Even system ram is very dependent on other things for performance other than just raw megahertz. Mega & Gigahertz mean less every day.

Your question should have been when will there be something 10X as powerful as a P4 2.0 and the answer would be in just a few years. A P4 3.2 800 already has nearly double the raw power of a P4 2.0. I would venture to say that by 2010 we will have computers well over 10x as powerful as the best PCs out there today.

retsam
07-03-03, 12:36 PM
Well it seems like gigahertz may not be the best way to measure a CPUs performance in the future. Heck, we are seeing it now w/ AMD & Intel and you can even see it in video card GPU/VPUs. Even system ram is very dependent on other things for performance other than just raw megahertz. Mega & Gigahertz mean less every day


i think clockless cpu's are the future i think ibm is develping a clockless cpu or aleaast an asynch cpu

GlowStick
07-03-03, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by schuey74
Well it seems like gigahertz may not be the best way to measure a CPUs performance in the future. Heck, we are seeing it now w/ AMD & Intel and you can even see it in video card GPU/VPUs. Even system ram is very dependent on other things for performance other than just raw megahertz. Mega & Gigahertz mean less every day.

Your question should have been when will there be something 10X as powerful as a P4 2.0 and the answer would be in just a few years. A P4 3.2 800 already has nearly double the raw power of a P4 2.0. I would venture to say that by 2010 we will have computers well over 10x as powerful as the best PCs out there today.

Your defianly right on the money!


a more valid question would be "is there anyway to push XXXX core to 20Ghz" etc.

R.Carter
07-03-03, 01:01 PM
What's the point of such a fast clock speed? The rest of the system will be too slow to make such a high clock speed useful.

Unless all the other parts are capable of operating with such a fast CPU it's not really worth the obstacles.

Paul
07-03-03, 01:10 PM
....Well obviously they're not just going to dump a 20,000mhz CPU in an nForce 2 board or something similar ;)

By that time, all the other components will have scaled to the speed needed to communicate with the CPU.

Alphy
07-03-03, 04:46 PM
Obviously you haven't heard of DARPA or SBIR; you would be surprised what the government contracts out to inviduals/corporations, you just don't hear about it because its classified. ;)

GlowStick
07-03-03, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Alphy
Obviously you haven't heard of DARPA or SBIR; you would be surprised what the government contracts out to inviduals/corporations, you just don't hear about it because its classified. ;)

*/sarcasm*/
Dude, the "man" branches out all of its computeing needs to aliens. Any 'rumor' you hear about DARPA or SBIR is just a cover up, from the "TURTH"

See, the aleins have tons of server 'farms' connected to the interent, witch our internet is actually connected to their internet, but they block out all of thier ip, ever seen those pesky "ip not valid" messages, yeah, its all a sham, its just a coverup!
*/sarcasm*/

retsam
07-03-03, 05:10 PM
*/sarcasm*/
Dude, the "man" branches out all of its computeing needs to aliens. Any 'rumor' you hear about DARPA or SBIR is just a cover up, from the "TURTH"

See, the aleins have tons of server 'farms' connected to the interent, witch our internet is actually connected to their internet, but they block out all of thier ip, ever seen those pesky "ip not valid" messages, yeah, its all a sham, its just a coverup!
*/sarcasm*/


shhhhhhh glowstick man ... there gonna come for you now, that you let the cat out of the bag ..... run glowstick run :D :D

B&R
07-04-03, 12:03 AM
I heard a rumor that Intel supposedly had 10 Ghz CPU ready when they released 2.0Ghz.. REMEMBER IT IS A RUMOR.

Geforce4ti4200
07-04-03, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by B&R
I heard a rumor that Intel supposedly had 10 Ghz CPU ready when they released 2.0Ghz.. REMEMBER IT IS A RUMOR.


didnt Intel have p3's liquid nitrogen cooled to 1GHz back in 1998 when their fastest offical cpu was a 500MHz p3? If people have gotten p4's overclocked to 4GHz, it may be possible for Intel to have perhaps 8 or even 10GHz in alpha stage

Uttar
07-04-03, 03:43 AM
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised by that. Heck, nVidia has 650Mhz GF4s! :eek:


Uttar

DSC
07-04-03, 04:02 AM
Is that with Dustbuster/Leafblower? :spank: :lol: :lol:

CaptNKILL
07-04-03, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
didnt Intel have p3's liquid nitrogen cooled to 1GHz back in 1998 when their fastest offical cpu was a 500MHz p3? If people have gotten p4's overclocked to 4GHz, it may be possible for Intel to have perhaps 8 or even 10GHz in alpha stage

Ahh, the benefits of working at Intel.....

"hey Boss, can I take "it" to a LAN party?"

"Sure!"

*at the LAN party*

"Anyone up for a 64 person game of BF1942? I'll host!!"

:D

gokickrocks
07-04-03, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by B&R
I heard a rumor that Intel supposedly had 10 Ghz CPU ready when they released 2.0Ghz.. REMEMBER IT IS A RUMOR.

it was a 10ghz ALU

Dazz
07-05-03, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by deejaya
You're on, I am pretty certain we will have something around 1 THz way before most of us die :) I wager it won't be from AMD :D

Nebuchadnezzar
07-05-03, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
I wager it won't be from AMD :D

Well they did have a CMOS at 35nm running at 1 or 2 Thz a few months ago.. :D

EDIT: Or was that Intel mentioned above and AMD was the 15nm 3Thz CMOS.. anyway it's one way or the other.

Matthius
07-08-03, 08:49 AM
how do we know we haven't taken the stupid way around computers? i mean, what if the people who invented the first computers with CPU's (chips on a mobo style things) made them differently? what if they made em with....ah...crap can't think..differently?!? i can't explain it but the whole way they work? ah, dont reply to this post...im pretty sure it makes no sense at all, but im gonna leave it here anyway.

the real question i was trying to ask was why are they always releasing cpu's almost monthly like a magazine. everyone's always waiting for the next *issue* or cpu. :drooling:. is there ever long periods of time where a cpu isn't released? and why are there never major breakthroughs in technology like in the movies?:nutkick: sorry about my random blabbering but im interested.

(oh and sorry about confusing u all. im difficult to understand:retard: ) can't think straight...too much moosic :jammin:

Hanners
07-08-03, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Dazz
I wager it won't be from AMD :D

AMD will have the Athlon 1THz+ (Real clock speed: 200MHz)

;)

reever2
07-08-03, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Nebuchadnezzar
Well they did have a CMOS at 35nm running at 1 or 2 Thz a few months ago.. :D

EDIT: Or was that Intel mentioned above and AMD was the 15nm 3Thz CMOS.. anyway it's one way or the other.

Yes, And i also have a radio antenna operating at 5Thz. Intel and all the other people could just be speaking about radio frequencies and nobody would notice