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DSC
07-04-03, 12:11 AM
http://www.notforidiots.com/GPURW.php

According to Martin Haufschild of PNY Marketing, the FX 5900 Value ( to be positioned at $299 ) will indeed include a 256-bit memory bus interface, contrary to earlier rumors
Thanks to Leonidas for the link! :) ( which is in german, BTW )

I guess this will end all the arguements about the memory bus of the 5900V. :p

Dazz
07-04-03, 01:24 AM
Yeah and who told the people here that it was 256bit?..... me but nobody takes no noticed.... nope they don't.

Geforce4ti4200
07-04-03, 05:55 AM
I told you so to everyone who doubted me. Nvidia cant be that dumb, if they use 128 bit memory, itll be like an fx5600u or a radeon9600 pro. The fx5900 value at $300 was meant to compete with the radeon9700 non pro at $200 ;)

Hanners
07-04-03, 06:00 AM
That's good news, it would have been pretty stupid for them to use a 128-bit bus for it.

Geforce4ti4200
07-04-03, 06:26 AM
why would people think the value is 128 bits? no one would spend $300 for a 128 bit controller cause itll be no more than 2/3 as fast as a radeon9700 pro or the fx5900 non ultra :mad:

supperman
07-04-03, 11:07 AM
So is the 5900V just going to be clocked at a slower speed with slower RAMs then? Sounds like a good opportunity for overclocking :)

digitalwanderer
07-04-03, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by supperman
So is the 5900V just going to be clocked at a slower speed with slower RAMs then? Sounds like a good opportunity for overclocking :)
Alot is gonna depend on what RAM they use and how the GPU yields were, but I gotta admit that this might just be a sweet little value card. :)

Wag
07-04-03, 12:01 PM
Like Geforce says, this card better be faster than the 9700np or it's not going to do so well for $100 more.

I'm not sure why nVidia thinks they can market their products at a higher price-point than ATI's when they're comparable at best.

The Baron
07-04-03, 12:08 PM
Like Geforce says, this card better be faster than the 9700np or it's not going to do so well for $100 more.
It had better be equitable to a 9800 non-pro, because those are priced at $300 as well.

Wag
07-04-03, 12:59 PM
Oh well, Newegg has refurbed FIC 9700s instock for $171 shipped and I couldn't pass that up.

At that price it just didn't seem worth waiting for the 5900 value. If the value is so much better than the 9700np, at this price it won't be so hard switching.

Geforce4ti4200
07-04-03, 01:23 PM
$171 for an like new 9700 is a steal :eek: itll be like 50% faster than a ti4600 without fsaa too!!!!!!!!!!! :D

supperman
07-04-03, 01:47 PM
Oh man! Newegg ran out of them cheap 9700s! Shucks!!!

Geforce4ti4200
07-04-03, 02:08 PM
go grab a ti4200 off ebay then :)

Wag
07-04-03, 02:45 PM
If you want refurbed stuff at newegg, bookmark the pages for the items you want and check regularly. I've seen lots of deals come and go that way.

I was really waiting for the $159 Saphire 9700 to be in-stock, but it never did (and I've been checking for over 3mos). In the past couple of weeks I've seen a few 9600Pros (for $138) and even a few 9800 128mb for <$290.

Occasionally refurb 5800s older 5600s and 5200s are in there. No 5900s yet of course.

CaptNKILL
07-04-03, 02:49 PM
Man, the 5900 value better be pretty good... it has some serious competition:
http://www.accupc.com/itemDetail.jsp?pid=VGVR9800P

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=48&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=4632,3668

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=48&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=4884,3668

:eek: :eek: :eek:

BigFish7
07-05-03, 08:42 AM
as i claimed earlier to have 256bit bus it has one, yet i hope it would do the job well enought to claim the crown against the 9800value.

i doubt whether 350/750 would do the job... :confused:

btw does any one know what are the clock/mem speed of the value?

BigFish7
07-05-03, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Wag
If you want refurbed stuff at newegg, bookmark the pages for the items you want and check regularly. I've seen lots of deals come and go that way.

I was really waiting for the $159 Saphire 9700 to be in-stock, but it never did (and I've been checking for over 3mos). In the past couple of weeks I've seen a few 9600Pros (for $138) and even a few 9800 128mb for <$290.

Occasionally refurb 5800s older 5600s and 5200s are in there. No 5900s yet of course.

the 9600pro is VE so don't bother. and same goes fot he 9800 which isn't a pro but the value. :(

digitalwanderer
07-05-03, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by BigFish7
the 9600pro is VE so don't bother. and same goes fot he 9800 which isn't a pro but the value. :(
Yes, but the only diff 'tween a 9800 and a 9800 Pro are clockspeeds...other than that they are the same so a bit of additional cooling and OCing and the 9800 non-Pro is a pretty sweet lil card. :cool:

Wag
07-05-03, 10:25 AM
There were most definately 9800Pro 128mb refurbs up last week at newegg for <$290.

BigFish7
07-05-03, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Yes, but the only diff 'tween a 9800 and a 9800 Pro are clockspeeds...other than that they are the same so a bit of additional cooling and OCing and the 9800 non-Pro is a pretty sweet lil card. :cool:

i don't know about that dw i think that they come with higher ns memory which gives you lower clock rates...
however i'm not 100% sure i'll check it out.
thanks for the note :)

i know that the 9600VE is with higher ns memory (2X200MHz).
a 9600VE is 400/400 = bad thing

Dazz
07-05-03, 03:47 PM
Is't that an Radeon 9600Pro Lite?

BigFish7
07-06-03, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by Dazz
Is't that an Radeon 9600Pro Lite?
the one they are selling for 138$, yes...
if i recall correct the normal version which can be found for the cheapest price starting from 160$ at www.pricewatch.

Dazz
07-06-03, 05:08 AM
Yeah $153 for a RAdeon 9600Pro 400/600MHz. The Pro Lite is currently only out in the Asian market.

Geforce4ti4200
07-06-03, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
Yeah $153 for a RAdeon 9600Pro 400/600MHz. The Pro Lite is currently only out in the Asian market.


a stock ti4200 at 250/500 outperforms that card when fsaa is turned off cause 4x2 cores eate 4x1 which the 9600 has.