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K007
03-19-10, 04:04 AM
cant wait to see what these cards bring to the table. i hope guru3d/xbit have there reviews on 0day :D

Revs
03-19-10, 04:57 AM
Sexy cards :captnkill:

Sexy?? I think it's ugly as hell :lol:

Vardant
03-19-10, 04:59 AM
And I think it's just a sticker :p

wysiwyg
03-19-10, 06:11 AM
they certainly look industrial and powerful

FearMeAll
03-19-10, 06:46 AM
OK I'm buying one damn. Do you think it will run things ok at 1280x720?

Vardant
03-19-10, 07:39 AM
The only thing that could possibly be incorrect in that slide is the TDP.

Surprise :)

Latest update : TDP lowered to 250W for GTX 480
http://forums.vr-zone.com/7792771-post44.html

Muppet
03-19-10, 07:41 AM
OK I'm buying one damn. Do you think it will run things ok at 1280x720?

That might be pushing it at that res. :p

scubes
03-19-10, 07:54 AM
to be honest i thought we might have seen some previews already performance wise.
it must be cos they suck BIGTIME:( i now the launch is not til the 26th but some some benchies woulda been nice to see ....

Enrico_be
03-19-10, 08:19 AM
GTX 480 has 250 Watt TDP ? Nice !!!! The chances me buying one are getting a lot higher :cool: !

Looking forward to the reviews :cool: !
A respected dutch benchmarker @ tweakers.net received the cards today, if he leaks something I'll post it here immediately ;) !

Enrico_be
03-19-10, 08:35 AM
Nvidia forum admin says : IF the proposed specs are correct (obviously he isn't allowed to tell us if it's indeed true or false) the bandwith is:
-GTX 480 : ( ( ( (1848 MHz) * (4 bits/cycle) * (384-bit width) ) / 8 ) / 1000 ) = 354.8 GB/s
-GTX 470: ( ( ( (1674 MHz) * (4 bits/cycle) * (320-bit width) ) / 8 ) / 1000 ) = 267.8 GB/s

GTX 480 has an insane memory bandwith o.O ! That's 2 X more than HD5870 ...

BUT ATI (especially older cards) always looked like they'd smoke NVIDIA cards on paper, and then came out performing just under their NVIDIA counterparts -> so specs aren't everything offcourse !

It sure as hell looks like, the chance that the GTX 480 beats the HD5870 is more than likely, and I really hope it's more than 5-15% :p 25% or more would be perfect imo :)

Toss3
03-19-10, 08:50 AM
to be honest i thought we might have seen some previews already performance wise.
it must be cos they suck BIGTIME:( i now the launch is not til the 26th but some some benchies woulda been nice to see ....

I think it's just because they're still a bit behind schedule and haven't had the time to finalize the clockspeeds/drivers yet. The biggest mistake a GPU manufacturer can do is to release benchmarks that don't show the full potential of the card. Most users base their buying decision on the first benchmarks they read which makes them all that more important.
Plus ati just released the 10.3 to the public which probably put even more stress on the green team.

JH24
03-19-10, 08:54 AM
250 Watt TDP for a GTX 480? I hope that's true, definitely sounds better.


The design of these cards look very nice IMHO, hopefully performance will be very nice too. :)

Revs
03-19-10, 08:54 AM
Finger crossed it's true :D

Revs
03-19-10, 09:11 AM
GTX480 gonna be 429 in the UK

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18145/65/

EDIT: I wonder if the extra cores will be able to be enabled if cooled with watercooling...

Vardant
03-19-10, 09:24 AM
Lasercut more likely.

scubes
03-19-10, 10:34 AM
GTX480 gonna be 429 in the UK

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18145/65/

EDIT: I wonder if the extra cores will be able to be enabled if cooled with watercooling...



how much do you reckon overclockers.co.uk will charge about 550 i bet...:(

Xion X2
03-19-10, 10:45 AM
Well, you really wanted to chose a case where you can the shader limitation, that would be it.


Hence, in my post, where I said "real world performance." My entire statement hinged on that preface, and it appears that you missed it.

Although those numbers that you linked were somewhat informative, for my daily use, I don't care about benchmarks ran at 640x400 with shaders set to low or off, as I'm guessing that most people who bought a high-end graphics card don't. I want something that's analagous to my daily use which is a card that can do everything well at the same time.

Like shadow said, it comes down to the complete package which is why I give the Unigine demo more credit when the settings are turned up. Aside from it being the only viable benchmark we have to date to test tesselation with, it works the whole card so you can see a glimpse of what a real world scenario would be like.

Having a lot of shading power is good, but it doesn't help as you have bottleneck before you get to use that power.

Yes, and the opposite is also true. It doesn't matter how much tesselation power you have if you're bottlenecked in another area, which it appears that Fermi is in that benchmark. Either that, or the tesselation isn't as strong as they're hyping it to be.


Edit: Good news about the 480's TDP being down to 250w if that's true. Should help it stay a bit cooler.

Revs
03-19-10, 11:38 AM
how much do you reckon overclockers.co.uk will charge about 550 i bet...:(

CCLonline are usually best on graphics cards. I also use Scan and OCUK, but CCL are 10 mins drive away so I can pick-up. Saying that, I've just placed an order with SpecialTech, who've been great to deal with.

Vardant
03-19-10, 11:51 AM
to be honest i thought we might have seen some previews already performance wise.
it must be cos they suck BIGTIME:( i now the launch is not til the 26th but some some benchies woulda been nice to see ....
Reviewers in Europe received their drivers yesterday, so you'll have to wait a little bit more.

shadow001
03-19-10, 11:53 AM
Nvidia forum admin says : IF the proposed specs are correct (obviously he isn't allowed to tell us if it's indeed true or false) the bandwith is:
-GTX 480 : ( ( ( (1848 MHz) * (4 bits/cycle) * (384-bit width) ) / 8 ) / 1000 ) = 354.8 GB/s
-GTX 470: ( ( ( (1674 MHz) * (4 bits/cycle) * (320-bit width) ) / 8 ) / 1000 ) = 267.8 GB/s

GTX 480 has an insane memory bandwith o.O ! That's 2 X more than HD5870 ...

BUT ATI (especially older cards) always looked like they'd smoke NVIDIA cards on paper, and then came out performing just under their NVIDIA counterparts -> so specs aren't everything offcourse !

It sure as hell looks like, the chance that the GTX 480 beats the HD5870 is more than likely, and I really hope it's more than 5-15% :p 25% or more would be perfect imo :)


Those numbers are completely off btw,as both cards use GDDR 5 memory,just like ATI's cards do and there isn't GDDR 5 available with a base clock of 1848 Mhz(yet).....Currently available is around that 1200Mhz mark,which with a 384 bit bus,would theoretically give it an extra 50% more at most,that's it.

Enrico_be
03-19-10, 11:57 AM
Those numbers are completely off btw,as both cards use GDDR 5 memory,just like ATI's cards do and there isn't GDDR 5 available with a base clock of 1848 Mhz(yet).....Currently available is around that 1200Mhz mark,which with a 384 bit bus,would theoretically give it an extra 50% more at most,that's it.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/7791577-post31.html

"That 1848 Mhz real clock speed would translate into an effective 7.4 Ghz speed for ~355 GB/sec of bandwidth for the GTX 480. The GTX 470 would get 6.7 Ghz effective and ~268 GB/sec of memory bandwidth. Samsung and Hynix are said to both have 7 Ghz effective GDDR5 chips ready so it may not be that unreasonable. With the expected low volumes of Fermi, getting enough high speed memory shouldn't be an issue."

Hey, I'm just the messenger here :D Don't know if it's possible or not, but it seems it could ;)

Fotis
03-19-10, 12:06 PM
http://forums.vr-zone.com/7791577-post31.html



Hey, I'm just the messenger here :D Don't know if it's possible or not, but it seems it could ;)

Quoted from the movie "300" :

"Before you speak know that in Sparta,everyone, even a kings messenger is held accountable for the words of this voice."

THIS IS SPARTA!!!:p

(We need a "This is Sparta" smilie):D

Vardant
03-19-10, 12:11 PM
(We need a "This is Sparta" smilie):D
http://i43.tinypic.com/282i1d5.gif

Here you go :D

Fotis
03-19-10, 12:12 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/282i1d5.gif

Here you go :D

hehe! Didnt know we had one!:D

shadow001
03-19-10, 12:17 PM
http://forums.vr-zone.com/7791577-post31.html



Hey, I'm just the messenger here :D Don't know if it's possible or not, but it seems it could ;)


It's cool,it's just that Nvidia don't use the base clock of the memory in the description,but the middle clock(makes for a bigger number on the box) and people are then multipliying that by 4,rather than 2,which is what it should be when doing the bandwith calculations.


Only the base clock has to be multiplied by 4,so they're using GDDR 5 with a roughly 925Mhz base clock for the GTX480 and 837Mhz for the GTX470 cards....They still have more memory bandwith than the HD5850 and HD5870 cards due to the 320 and 384 bit busses anyhow.


Under the article calculations,you'd actually beat an HD5970 card by quite a lot,and that one is using a pair of GPU's,with each one having it's own 256 bit memory bus(512 bit in total)....