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uncle_zeemus
01-24-10, 04:31 AM
My BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS OC2 640MB PCIe card went bad and BFG sent me a 9600 GT OC (BFGC96512GTOCE) with 512 MB of ram.... y'all think i got ripped off??? I mean the difference in ram is pretty big, no? Should i complain? What you guys think??? I dunno much about graphics cards but I know with PC's 512 --> 640 Is pretty big...

CaptNKILL
01-24-10, 04:47 AM
At first I was about to say that you got ripped off... but after looking into it it looks like there really shouldn't be much difference between them, performance wise. The cards are pretty much equal in benchmarks, even if the 8800GTS 640Mb has higher specs on paper. The 9600GT is a little bit more up to date though, so it'll run cooler, use less power, and it has some more up to date multimedia features.

The memory isn't that important for a card like that really. 512Mb of video memory is only really a limitation on faster cards that can run at higher resolutions.

uncle_zeemus
01-24-10, 05:09 AM
Aye Aye Cap'n (lee) ...makes sense. Thanks so much for your reply!

Johnny C
01-24-10, 01:48 PM
They coulda at least sent you a 9800GT.....since a 9800GT costs about 100 bucks...And would be a better match for that 8800GTS 640.

http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce8.html

While the 9800 GT is actually fast than the 8800GTS 640mb....the 9600 GT is quite a bit slower in both fillrate and memory bandwidth.

For a card with lifetime warranty I wouldn't accept the 9600 anything.....I'd expect at least the 9800GT 512mb.....

JasonPC
01-24-10, 11:58 PM
Yeah I think a 9800 GT would have been much more fitting. 9600 is a bit of a step down. I guess the longer your "lifetime" warranty drags on the more grey area on what you'll actually get.

CaptNKILL
01-25-10, 02:15 AM
They coulda at least sent you a 9800GT.....since a 9800GT costs about 100 bucks...And would be a better match for that 8800GTS 640.

http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce8.html

While the 9800 GT is actually fast than the 8800GTS 640mb....the 9600 GT is quite a bit slower in both fillrate and memory bandwidth.

For a card with lifetime warranty I wouldn't accept the 9600 anything.....I'd expect at least the 9800GT 512mb.....

Actually if you look at benchmarks, the 9600GT and GTS 640Mb are nearly identical in performance, with the 9600GT coming out on top by a hair most of the time.

I really can't explain why though...

The 9800GT is much faster too. It would have been nice of them to give him one of those, but I think the 9600GT is the closest performance match to what he had.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=GeForce+8800+GTS

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality-update-3/compare,1699.html?prod[3240]=on&prod[3229]=on

Toss3
01-25-10, 06:36 AM
Actually if you look at benchmarks, the 9600GT and GTS 640Mb are nearly identical in performance, with the 9600GT coming out on top by a hair most of the time.

I really can't explain why though...

The 9800GT is much faster too. It would have been nice of them to give him one of those, but I think the 9600GT is the closest performance match to what he had.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=GeForce+8800+GTS

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality-update-3/compare,1699.html?prod[3240]=on&prod[3229]=on

While the performance might be on par, the memory and other features are not. They should have sent him either a 8800GT or 9800GT. I'd call 'em up and say you want a card with features similar to the card you had.

mailman2
01-25-10, 11:03 AM
I think the 9600GT is the closest performance match to what he had.

+1

CaptNKILL
01-25-10, 08:15 PM
While the performance might be on par, the memory and other features are not. They should have sent him either a 8800GT or 9800GT. I'd call 'em up and say you want a card with features similar to the card you had.

What do you mean by features exactly?

The 9600GT is apparently faster than the 8800GTS, regardless of the specs. And any other features are more up to date (HDMI audio pass through, physx acceleration, CUDA).

You wouldn't expect Intel to replace a 3.2Ghz Pentium D with a 3.2Ghz Core 2 Duo would you?

sharangad
01-26-10, 05:22 PM
While the performance might be on par, the memory and other features are not. They should have sent him either a 8800GT or 9800GT. I'd call 'em up and say you want a card with features similar to the card you had.

Dude,

The 9600 GT has more features. The only thing it has more of is RAM and that's pretty much useless at the kind of resolutions these cards run at.

8800 GTS 9600 GT
Core G80 (2006) G94 (2008)
RAM 640 MB 512 MB
DX class 10.0 10.0
Shader Model 4.0 4.0
VP VP1 Video Processor 2/VP2*
Performance Identical Identical
Power csmn Higher Lower

VP2 supports iDCT WMV/VC-1 decoding and full offload of H.264 for blu-ray. VP1 only supports mo-comp for all VC-1/WMV/H.264.

JasonPC
01-27-10, 12:31 AM
I guess it's a pretty fair trade. It does have a lot less CUDA cores than the 8800 GTS but it's clocked much higher and has better video features. There's probably some cases where the 8800 is faster and some where the 9600 is faster.