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enoteware
02-02-10, 03:58 PM
Alright I have decided it's time to rebuild my system. I want to keep the option of upgrading cpu/gpu easily in the future, so for right now I am going somewhat low end with the cpu/gpu for now. I would love to hear suggestions/comments on any of these.

Motherboard: $90
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT-UD2H AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: $60
AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCK23GQ

GPU: $170
GIGABYTE GV-R577UD-1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

RAM:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail

OS:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

XDanger
02-02-10, 06:11 PM
I would start with a bells and whistles motherboard if I were you.

Wait for usb 3 sata 600 (or whatever they call em) if you can.

onmikesline
02-02-10, 06:24 PM
i would not start with that and get your self a SSD drive. :) ^

ragejg
02-02-10, 06:27 PM
I would start with a bells and whistles motherboard if I were you.

Wait for usb 3 sata 600 (or whatever they call em) if you can.

Why on a budget build would you recommend anything but a low to mid range motherboard?


Hm... If I could I'd get a less expensive motherboard so that at the very least I could start off with a Phenom II x2 instead of the lower cache Athlon chip... Unless you at least get a Phenom (II) x3 or Athlon (II) x3 you're gonna be cpu limited off the get-go even with a 5770, which offers performance near that of a 4870 or (and I think the Geforce 275).

onmikesline
02-02-10, 06:29 PM
thats what im talking about ^ :) cheap MB will work the same with a better CPU will always win

enoteware
02-02-10, 06:34 PM
It would be nice not to need to upgrade my mobo and just swap in a new cpu, any recommendations on a good bang for you buck mobo?

How about for the CPU - AMD Phenom II X3 705e Heka 2.5GHz Socket AM3 65W Triple-Core Processor Model HD705EOCGIBOX? only $40 bux more

onmikesline
02-02-10, 06:36 PM
what MB do you have?

enoteware
02-02-10, 06:38 PM
was planning on going with...GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT-UD2H AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

the one I have right now is a 939 socket

onmikesline
02-02-10, 06:39 PM
939 what? CPU socket?

enoteware
02-02-10, 06:40 PM
yah

methimpikehoses
02-02-10, 06:40 PM
AMD socket 939 kthxbai

onmikesline
02-02-10, 06:46 PM
yeah you might be stuck finding parts, let me see what i can build for you




ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

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POWERCOLOR AX5770 512MD5-H Radeon HD 5770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card

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G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

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AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model ADX620WFGIBOX

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ragejg
02-02-10, 06:47 PM
$80 for this competent 2.9ghz Athlon II x3:

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=ADX435WFBX&c=pw

Three cores currently hold a distinct advantage over three, and four offers diminishing returns over three (there is a very thorough article about this out there somewhere, please don't ask me to find it)... x3's are just right. :p

... Do you HAVE to get a mobo with DDR3? There's deals to be had on the AMD 770 chipsets, & there's really not that big of a real-world performance difference.

I had to do something similar to what you're doing, except it was last year. I ended up with an Asus M3A AM2+ ddr2 mobo, an x3 720 Black and a 4870... oh and 4gb ddr2.

onmikesline
02-02-10, 06:48 PM
you might want to spend a few bucks more for lots more power and this would play new games any day

enoteware
02-02-10, 07:33 PM
Would going with a 4850 be a good idea and then using the money on a higher end cpu?

ragejg
02-02-10, 07:37 PM
Would going with a 4850 be a good idea and then using the money on a higher end cpu?

Yup. Yup it would. Do your research and get a 4850 that OC's good, though, so you can get around 4870 performance. Or get a 4870 if you can get a good deal on it.

frenchy2k1
02-03-10, 01:50 PM
Some advices:
- video card: get a 4850 or better./ They are all compatible and will game great as of now up to 1080p.
- MB/mem: if you want a future-proof rig, go for DDR3. If you want perfs on the cheap now, get DDR2. It all depends on how long you plan to keep it, but DDR2 will be harder to find in a year or 2. 4GB min recommended.
- proc: phenoms are better than athlon. X3 is a sweet spot. Get whatever you can in your budget, most games are video card limited at resolutions higher than 1600.

enoteware
02-03-10, 02:14 PM
Some advices:
- video card: get a 4850 or better./ They are all compatible and will game great as of now up to 1080p.
- MB/mem: if you want a future-proof rig, go for DDR3. If you want perfs on the cheap now, get DDR2. It all depends on how long you plan to keep it, but DDR2 will be harder to find in a year or 2. 4GB min recommended.
- proc: phenoms are better than athlon. X3 is a sweet spot. Get whatever you can in your budget, most games are video card limited at resolutions higher than 1600.

Thanks frenchy!

XDanger
02-04-10, 05:19 PM
Why on a budget build would you recommend anything but a low to mid range motherboard?

A good solid foundation.

And OEM is tied to the mobo.


But I guess a mid range mobo can be pimped out (like mine will be) :)

enoteware
02-04-10, 05:22 PM
A good solid foundation.

And OEM is tied to the mobo.

Oooh that's good to know, I had no idea, will be buying the full instead.

onmikesline
02-04-10, 06:04 PM
just get a asrock MB they are cheap and good

LydianKnight
02-04-10, 07:40 PM
just get a asrock MB they are cheap and good

Yeah, +1 to ASRock motherboards, they're quite good, cheap, BIOS updates applies with no problems at all and a very decent feature set (except for the fact I had to mod the chipset heatsink in order to install my X-Fi on the PCI-E x1 slot, but apart from that, chapeau to ASRock guys).

enoteware
02-09-10, 12:14 AM
Alright I have decided to ditch the AMD idea and go with the intel core i5 650, for $150 bux. I scored a BFG gts 250 oc 1gb for $75 so I decided to go with a better processor.

Going with the Gigabyte GA-p55-ud2
http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=3299

Also I am planning on running Win 7 64 bit, is 2gb of ram enough, or should I go with 4?

CaptNKILL
02-09-10, 12:58 AM
Alright I have decided to ditch the AMD idea and go with the intel core i5 650, for $150 bux. I scored a BFG gts 250 oc 1gb for $75 so I decided to go with a better processor.

Going with the Gigabyte GA-p55-ud2
http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=3299

Also I am planning on running Win 7 64 bit, is 2gb of ram enough, or should I go with 4?

Definitely go with 4. Its expensive but worth it.

Any more than that isn't really necessary though.

enoteware
02-09-10, 12:59 AM
Thanks Mr. Kill!