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HiCZoK4
02-13-10, 11:34 AM
I lost my interest in getting psp.
I would more likely get a normal console. Had already a 360 and I know how it is. Would get it again but noticed some great PS3 titles so Iam considering ps3

Can I hook up ps3 to my sammy22 display? It have DVI and old VGA inputs only.

GIGARAM
02-13-10, 12:20 PM
yes you can hook up a ps3 to a lcd crt monitor using one of these Playstation 3 Ps3 Nintendo Wii Vga Monitor Cable Lead
i got one for my bros ps3 hes got it hooked up to a 22" lcd display goes up to 1080-I aswell you just need to hook up some speakers to the cable as most monitors dont have speakers.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=ps3+vga+cable&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=3121595066&ref=pd_sl_38u66dbjac_e

or one of these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HDMI-to-VGA-3-RCA-Video-Audio-AV-Cable-PS3-Xbox-360-TV_W0QQitemZ280433699079QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Vide oGames_VideoGameAccessories_VideoGameAccessories_J N?hash=item414b26a907

or any of these

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=ps3+vga+cable&_sacat=See-All-Categories

hope this helps

shilk
02-13-10, 01:45 PM
HDMI to VGA? EEEEEW. :( At least do DVI. :p

Just get a HDMI to DVI adapter ($~16), and hook up the audio via RCA jacks (comes with the PS3) to your sound source (may need a splitter for that). It's an adapter that plugs both RCA (red and white) into a single 3.5mm jack.

Total package costs about $25-45 US with tax.

Here's the audio splitter.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7417/35mmto2rca.jpg
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103709



And the male HDMI to DVI (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=hdmi+to+dvi&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=18042995652113228780&ei=QfJ2S7aHG4aQsgPFgqy8Cw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBwQ8gIwAA#) connector.




Also note that your LCD has to support HDCP or else it won't work. But it's definitely worth the quality.

HiCZoK4
02-13-10, 04:38 PM
Thanks. I wanted to get x360 but I am more and more on ps3 side.
Wifi and free mp gameplay.

Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Killzone 2
God of War series
Shadow of the colossus sequel(to be released)
Heavy rain

And a bit more games.

You think that is enough over Gears of war2 and ...e... xbox dont have anything more:D
I can get most xbox stuff on pc.


What cables comes with ps3?
I have my pc connected to 2,1 speakers(just one cable). Will I have to swtich cables or this jack splitter will do the trick?

Ohhh and Slim or Phat?
Also Dualshock3 is the heavier\rumble controller?


ps. HDCP - I don;t know does my 226bw have this. it is 1680x1050 native. Does ps3 have 16:10 resolutions like x360? I had no problem witch setting any resolution on 360

Lyme
02-13-10, 05:02 PM
These are pretty cheap http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=47109&vpn=ADS-DVI-M-TO-HDMI-F&manufacture=Unitek and should do the job.

note: the ps3 would be a better product if they could design a decent menu system, especially the system settings and playstation store. What a mess.

Ps: DVI does not carry sound (while hdmi does), so you will have to setup the secondary sound output on the ps3.

Lyme
02-14-10, 02:27 AM
I always really liked the XMB that Sony's products use. Their bluray players, PSP, and PS3 all use the same menu setup, and I like it.

The Playstation store could use a little work though, I'll give you that.

The XMB isn't really bad, but it still has quite a few things that could be improved upon.

Accounts are <-- way.
Account actions are -->
The system menu is just one loooooong list.

ViN86
02-14-10, 09:07 AM
Yea I have done it. Use a HDMI to DVI converter (female HDMI to male DVI) and use a regular AV cable for the audio (red and white RCA to minijack). When you setup the display on the PS3, make sure to set the audio output settings (usually at the end of the display settings it asks you if you want to) and you're all set.

marqmajere
02-14-10, 10:05 AM
Thanks. I wanted to get x360 but I am more and more on ps3 side.
Wifi and free mp gameplay.

Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Killzone 2
God of War series
Shadow of the colossus sequel(to be released)
Heavy rain

And a bit more games.

You think that is enough over Gears of war2 and ...e... xbox dont have anything more:D
I can get most xbox stuff on pc.


What cables comes with ps3?
I have my pc connected to 2,1 speakers(just one cable). Will I have to swtich cables or this jack splitter will do the trick?

Ohhh and Slim or Phat?
Also Dualshock3 is the heavier\rumble controller?


ps. HDCP - I don;t know does my 226bw have this. it is 1680x1050 native. Does ps3 have 16:10 resolutions like x360? I had no problem witch setting any resolution on 360

Also check out Demon's Souls. Fantastic game. I would get a slim ps3. The 120 is more than enough for most people.

As for being HDCP check out this link. http://www.samsung.com/us/support/detail/supportPrdDetail.do?menu=SP01&prd_ia_cd=&prd_mdl_cd=&prd_mdl_name=226BW Look under the "How-to Guides" section.

HiCZoK4
02-14-10, 11:52 AM
It says "Most Active Topics
How To Use Your 226BW HDCP Compliant Monitor As A TV"

And under specs it says "DVI(HDCP)"
I have two outputs. DVI and Dsub. It seems DVI is called HDCP.


Next questions!!!
1.What is on PSN?
2.Do I have do pay for everything?
3.Are there demos for most of games?
4.Can I install games like on 360?
5.Can I play games like killzone2etc for free over WI-FI? Would love to kick some nvnews members arses :lol:
5.How "durable" is ps3. Does is have issues like 360?
6.What can You say about ps3 dualshock3. I have only used x360 pad and it was quite comfortable... only it was getting very "sweaty", and I had to clean my hands a LOT.
7.Backward compatibility? Only needed for Shadow of the Colossus.
8.Can I use ps3 to browse internets (offcourse in simple way)
9.Standing Vertical horizontal. I prefer Vertical-phat vs Slim.

10.And finally how is it overall. Share Your opinions on gaming etc etc


Sorry to have tons of question but I have to be sure. it costs A LOT in here and games also are quite expensive so I have to make a not fail choice :bleh: I watched plenty of reviews but those are all quite the same...

|MaguS|
02-14-10, 12:22 PM
1) Alot of stuff, look around.
2) Demo's are free, Games cost money. You can also get Themes, Trailers and other things free.
3) Alot of demos but some games don't have a demo.
4) No
5) All MP on the PS3 is free. The only subscription service Sony offers is Qore.
5-2) Very reliable, the system is probably one of the most reliable consoles ever made.
6) I prefer the Dualshock over the X360 controller, im just more use to it.
7) Unless you got one of the original units then only with the PSX Games.
8) Yes
9) I have mine horizontal right now.
10) I love my PS3, it offers a wide range of genres to play and when a game is developed specifically for it they truly shine.

HiCZoK4
02-14-10, 12:32 PM
Great Magus. Thanks for quick anserw:) Now I need collect more money, Becouse I was saving for psp which I wont have any more. due to this beutifull shiny device :lol:. Proboably like moth ETA

marqmajere
02-14-10, 12:49 PM
Actually you can install certain games to the hard drive. I've installed Street Fighter 4, Uncharted, and Metal Gear Solid 4 so far. I would absolutely LOVE to install Demon's Souls, but it doesn't have the option for it. It must vary from game to game.

|MaguS|
02-14-10, 01:35 PM
Actually you can install certain games to the hard drive. I've installed Street Fighter 4, Uncharted, and Metal Gear Solid 4 so far. I would absolutely LOVE to install Demon's Souls, but it doesn't have the option for it. It must vary from game to game.

I think he's talking about a different kind of install. Where you can the entire game loaded in the HD. PS3 installs are just a cache to improve load times but the entire game is not installed.

Lyme
02-14-10, 02:39 PM
Yea I have done it. Use a HDMI to DVI converter (female HDMI to male DVI) and use a regular AV cable for the audio (red and white RCA to minijack). When you setup the display on the PS3, make sure to set the audio output settings (usually at the end of the display settings it asks you if you want to) and you're all set.

He should be aware that sometimes the adapter doesn't work, like on older lcd's and tv's 2004 and earlier (depends on manufacturer).

HiCZoK4
02-14-10, 02:43 PM
Samsung 226bw here. 22'' 16:10 1680x1050 screen. Dvi and vga inputs ONLY. No 1:1 aspect correction option btw

Lyme
02-14-10, 02:48 PM
It says "Most Active Topics
How To Use Your 226BW HDCP Compliant Monitor As A TV"

And under specs it says "DVI(HDCP)"
I have two outputs. DVI and Dsub. It seems DVI is called HDCP.


Next questions!!!
1.What is on PSN?
2.Do I have do pay for everything?
3.Are there demos for most of games?
4.Can I install games like on 360?
5.Can I play games like killzone2etc for free over WI-FI? Would love to kick some nvnews members arses :lol:
5.How "durable" is ps3. Does is have issues like 360?
6.What can You say about ps3 dualshock3. I have only used x360 pad and it was quite comfortable... only it was getting very "sweaty", and I had to clean my hands a LOT.
7.Backward compatibility? Only needed for Shadow of the Colossus.
8.Can I use ps3 to browse internets (offcourse in simple way)
9.Standing Vertical horizontal. I prefer Vertical-phat vs Slim.

10.And finally how is it overall. Share Your opinions on gaming etc etc


Sorry to have tons of question but I have to be sure. it costs A LOT in here and games also are quite expensive so I have to make a not fail choice :bleh: I watched plenty of reviews but those are all quite the same...

HDCP - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

#5 - Wifi has a higher latency and lower bandwidth, so while you can, I wouldn't.
#5 (you noticed you used 5 twice right?) - Treat it like a stereo receiver and you should be fine.
#6 - (compared to the 360)It is significantly lighter, seems shaped for smaller hands, the rumble is weaker, layout is slightly different, you'll just have to get used to it. The most annoying part is that with no replaceable battery, you need to have a spare controller on hand. (battery life is fine).
#7 - The slim has none.
#8 - Use a pc.
#9 - I have mine vertical, it is a monster of a unit next to the 360 and Wii.

Lyme
02-14-10, 02:50 PM
Samsung 226bw here. 22'' 16:10 1680x1050 screen. Dvi and vga inputs ONLY. No 1:1 aspect correction option btw

No idea, you will have to buy the $10 connector and find out.

HiCZoK4
02-14-10, 02:53 PM
HDCP - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

#5 - Wifi has a higher latency and lower bandwidth, so while you can, I wouldn't.
#5 (you noticed you used 5 twice right?) - Treat it like a stereo receiver and you should be fine.
#6 - (compared to the 360)It is significantly lighter, seems shaped for smaller hands, the rumble is weaker, layout is slightly different, you'll just have to get used to it. The most annoying part is that with no replaceable battery, you need to have a spare controller on hand. (battery life is fine).
#7 - The slim has none.
#8 - Use a pc.
#9 - I have mine vertical, it is a monster of a unit next to the 360 and Wii.

Yeah i noticed that I used 5 two times. lols

There are no different versions of ps3 like there are with 360? You know. other motherboards and fans.

marqmajere
02-14-10, 02:58 PM
Just get a slim and don't worry about it. I just bought Rachet and Clank: Tools today so I'm looking forward to firing that one up.

Lyme
02-14-10, 06:15 PM
Yeah i noticed that I used 5 two times. lols

There are no different versions of ps3 like there are with 360? You know. other motherboards and fans.

There have been something like 12+ revisions to the ps3 hardware (including going from fat to slim) so far. So yes, there are differences.

However among ps3-slims the differences are very much like the 360 now, hard drive size and extra stuff in the box.

Oh, if you've had a hd-dvd player for the 360 and get a blu-ray movie for the ps3, expect the start up of the movie to take longer (comparatively) it is normal.

Lyme
02-14-10, 06:20 PM
Just get a slim and don't worry about it. I just bought Rachet and Clank: Tools today so I'm looking forward to firing that one up.

I got that one http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/ratchet-and-clank-future-tools-of-destruction-sony-dual-shock-3-bundle-playstation-3/10135632.aspx?path=65071ea2898cc832f1ac550f9fdf17a cen02 cheap way to get a second controller.

Of course I was a huge penny pincher, I waited for a ps3 slim 120g bundle that cost $299 and had extras in the box. Got Arkam and infamous thrown in for no added cost. (I only buy new).

|MaguS|
02-14-10, 08:05 PM
HDCP - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

#5 - Wifi has a higher latency and lower bandwidth, so while you can, I wouldn't.
#5 (you noticed you used 5 twice right?) - Treat it like a stereo receiver and you should be fine.
#6 - (compared to the 360)It is significantly lighter, seems shaped for smaller hands, the rumble is weaker, layout is slightly different, you'll just have to get used to it. The most annoying part is that with no replaceable battery, you need to have a spare controller on hand. (battery life is fine).
#7 - The slim has none.
#8 - Use a pc.
#9 - I have mine vertical, it is a monster of a unit next to the 360 and Wii.

You can game on wifi just fine, I have been using my PS3 over wifi since I got the system. The battery life on the dualshock is longer then an x360 controller. The slim has PSX backwards compat so it has some.

HiCZoK4
02-15-10, 10:58 AM
Thanks for help. All this info should help me to dcide what to get when times come;)

crainger
02-15-10, 01:58 PM
I'll just add my expereinces. I recently was between houses so I was using my PS3 with a 24inch 1920x1200 LCD with HDMI input. Worked fine, I set the PS3 to 1080P and set the LCD to 1:1 ratio so it didn't scale (just had black bars on the top and bottom. This was fine for 1080P games, but as we know most are 720P. Now we probably also all know the scaling on PC monitors is pretty crap, and a 1280x720 image on a 1920x1200 display doesn't look that good. So keep that in mind. I coped with it and finished Uncharted 1 and 2. Should also note, the PS3 doesn't scale PS3 games up. So if you disable 720P it will always go down to 576p (or 480p depending on your region).

HiCZoK4
02-15-10, 03:34 PM
Wait... So if my screen is 1680x1050 and doesn't have 1:1 aspect option then I will not be able to see whole screen with 1080p?

And as I understand ps3 cannot be set to 1280x720?? only to 1080p?? With my old 360 I had to use 720p becouse If I would go 1080 I was not able to see whole screen. And 720 was looking just fine. Offcourse then they added 16:10 support and i could use any res I want not bigger than my native

So Can You explain it deeper?