MSI Geforce4 Ti4600 or FX5800?

[Voltaire]

Are they pretty hand-in-hand or what? I don't think I've seen any benchmarking comparisons between the two, so I'm confused on which is better.

The FX is like 65 dollars more than the Ti, but do you pay the extra 65 dollars for better performance or just DX9 support?

I guess what I'm asking is what would you guys choose. An MSI Geforce 4 Ti4600-8x or an MSI Geforce FX5800?

[Kev1]

The MSI GFFX 5800 would be better, simply because it is both faster (From what I've read) than the Ti4600, and also has DirectX 9 support for future games.

A MSI GFFX 5900 would be another idea, but it is near $150 bucks more at the moment so might be too expensive.

[Voltaire]

Well at www.AccuPC.com the Ti4600 is $205, the FX5800(non-ultra) is $295, and the 5900(non-ultra) is $392. So is the performance difference between the 5800 and the 5900 seem like it should be a $100 dollar difference or more like a $20 difference?

[jAkUp]

without a doubt the 5800

[bkswaney]

5800. :)

[ragejg]

5800...

:rolleyes: WHOA! We're RECOMMENDING 5800? ...finally! i knew it would happen someday! :D:D

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by ragejg
5800...

:rolleyes: WHOA! We're RECOMMENDING 5800? ...finally! i knew it would happen someday! :D:D

whats that mean? did i miss something.....?

[B&R]

Even thou both suk i suggest FX5800. It is more future proof than 4600.

[Kev1]

I am not sure if the difference in performance between a 5800 and 5900 is worth the $100 dollars. They benchmark fairly close and both have their +/-.

5800:

NV30 Core
Has DDR2 Memory (Faster) +
Has 128 bit bus (Slower) -

5900:

NV35 Core
Has DDR Memory (Slower) -
Has 256 bit bus (Faster) +

Overall the 5900 is quicker, but not sure if its $100 dollars quicker.
As with anything in computers, if you wait the price will come down. If you want to buy now and are on a budget, the 5800 would be good reasonable choice. If money is no object, then the 5900.

Hope this helps a little. Ultimately its your decision. Hopefully others will post their opinions on your choices. Whatever you do decide, enjoy your new video card :thumbsup:

[ragejg]

Originally posted by Voltaire
whats that mean? did i miss something.....?

Haven't you been around since January or so? Sorry, I think it's just the first time I've EVER seen FOUR POSTS IN A ROW recommending the 5800... no mention of R3XX, no fanboi jabs, no heat complaints, no AA/AF complaints...

I dunno, it makes me feel a little better about the card.

;)

[ragejg]

Originally posted by B&R
Even thou both suk

c'mon, man. if both "suk", then gamers wouldn't use em! ;)

[Kev1]

Ragejg just mean't that the GFFX 5800 got a lot of flack when it came out because of the fact it has a 128 bit bus (While the Radeon 9700 had 256 bit bus), and also because on the 5800 Ultra the GPU cooling fan was basically a leaf blower that was very loud :rolleyes: Most standard 5800's don't have this loud fan. However, some do so keep an eye out for big plastic freaky looking fan that blocks your first PCI slot next to your agp slot on the motherboard.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Kev1
I am not sure if the difference in performance between a 5800 and 5900 is worth the $100 dollars. They benchmark fairly close and both have their +/-.

5800:

NV30 Core
Has DDR2 Memory (Faster) +
Has 128 bit bus (Slower) -

5900:

NV35 Core
Has DDR Memory (Slower) -
Has 256 bit bus (Faster) +

Overall the 5900 is quicker, but not sure if its $100 dollars quicker.
As with anything in computers, if you wait the price will come down. If you want to buy now and are on a budget, the 5800 would be good reasonable choice. If money is no object, then the 5900.

Hope this helps a little. Ultimately its your decision. Hopefully others will post their opinions on your choices. Whatever you do decide, enjoy your new video card :thumbsup:

thanks man you've really helped alot. I think i'm gonna go with an FX5800, but now i've been faced with a new decision....MSI or ASUS?!

[B&R]

Originally posted by ragejg
c'mon, man. if both "suk", then gamers wouldn't use em! ;)
May be i was not clear.. both suk for wat they are worth and compared to other cards that u can get for lesser price and higher perf.

[Kev1]

The Asus and MSI 5800 cards are identical. They both come with the quieter fans (A good thing). Either one would be fine. It actually would come down to what brand you prefer, what games/software (If any) is included in the card, and the price.

[Voltaire]

Well, the ASUS is about $45 cheaper which is awesome because I'm on a TIGHT budget. But I would really prefer the MSI because I love their products and it comes with an awesome utility/game package. I've never really dealt with ASUS so buying that card would kinda be.....i dunno how to say it :D Plus ASUS's software package in my opinion is ****.

[jAkUp]

asus cards are great... but all the 5800's are the same. i believe they were, and still are all nvidia refrence designs, so you cant go wrong with either.

[Greg]

I was in the same situation, wanting to upgrade from Geforce3. Buying a new video card today, you need a) DirectX 9 features, b) More speed than Geforce4 series. So you need the 5800 (or consider Radeom 9700 pro if good price, and confident in ATI).

[Voltaire]

I'm not very confident in ATI, so there is no way in hell I'm going ATI. Don't ask, its all been discussed before :D

[Voltaire]

I wasn't talking about me in particular. Anyway its because of ATI's poor driver support, which I'm sure everyone knows about. I just dont wanna drop $300 on a videocard thats gonna **** me over in a month.

If you feel differently then thats cool. Its my opinion that I don't care to deal with ATI. I have heard BOTH good and bad about them but I don't feel like being one of those who post on www.rage3d.com bitching about their brand new 9700 Pro not working.

[The Baron]

Wow, this thread has become one giant piece of flamebait.