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Powerworks
07-17-03, 06:22 AM
I am looking for some good thermal paste for the Athlon XP 2500+ Barton I am going to buy...

Could someone tell me some good name brands?

wysiwyg
07-17-03, 06:30 AM
ive just ordered some arctic silver 3 compound for my barton 2.8.

very popular make

http://www.exhardware.com/reviews.php?Id=60

Powerworks
07-17-03, 06:43 AM
I'm new to this stuff do I have to apply it every year or so? Or is once enough..

Also if I don't plan to overclock (which I do) but if I don't for future reference.. Do I have to use this stuff?

wysiwyg
07-17-03, 06:50 AM
im sure it doesnt need to be re-applied every year etc. i never have as thermal compound doesnt seems to evaporate or degrade not even the cheap sachets u get with the mobo or cpu which ive always used up untill now (first time ive ordered arctic silver)

as for overclocking. as long as you have a decent heatsink and fan or watercooling im sure youll be ok.

vampireuk
07-17-03, 07:08 AM
Shin Etsu, AshG pointed this out to me and now I will not use anything else.:D The ultimate thermal compound, the only problem is it that it's hard to find. Chillblast (http://www.chillblast.com) stock it though. :)

Edit: And a nice review that compares several compounds link (http://www.ocprices.com/?rev_id=128)

Go Shin-Etsu go!!:D

Powerworks
07-17-03, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by wysiwyg
im sure it doesnt need to be re-applied every year etc. i never have as thermal compound doesnt seems to evaporate or degrade not even the cheap sachets u get with the mobo or cpu which ive always used up untill now (first time ive ordered arctic silver)

as for overclocking. as long as you have a decent heatsink and fan or watercooling im sure youll be ok.

Thanks!.. Newegg.com is going to charge me $4 shipping on AS3.. yet it gives me free shipping on almost everything else (except memory).. bah.. but it would be worse to order from another compnay separt would get here at different times.. oh well will just pay it..

The Baron
07-17-03, 07:47 AM
I got AS3 on the last three CPUs I mounted.

Meh, just think of it as shipping.

vampireuk
07-17-03, 07:54 AM
I'm not going to rest until I convert everyone to Shin Etsu:D ;)

wysiwyg
07-17-03, 07:59 AM
send me a tube free then ill convert ;)

:D

digitalwanderer
07-17-03, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by vampireuk
I'm not going to rest until I convert everyone to Shin Etsu:D ;)
What is it's advantages Vamp? I'm always up for trying something new, talk me into it a little. ;)

I've been using Nanotherm BlueII since I picked up some of it a while back and I've been very pleased with the results. I haven't noticed any drying of it, and I like the way it spreads. (I think how a paste spreads is one of it's most important features, getting on the right amount is a big trick. :) )

Powerworks
07-17-03, 10:29 AM
I hope the retail box (for the barton) comes with good documentation on how to do this.. this being my first time and all..

vampireuk
07-17-03, 11:35 AM
It's easy enough :)

Arctic silver have a guide here (http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm)

What is it's advantages Vamp? I'm always up for trying something new, talk me into it a little.

Take a peek at the results (http://www.ocprices.com/index.php?rev_id=128&page=3&action=reviews) Shin Etsu rocks:afro:

After a second full day and night of thrashing, most of the pastes have only marginally improved, apart from the Shin Etsu which once again has dropped by a full two degrees. That makes it a staggering 9.5 degrees better than the generic rubbish (which has stabilised) and three full degrees better than Arctic Silver III and Céramique.

wysiwyg
07-17-03, 11:48 AM
hehe

normally i just slap on the thermal compound:D

didnt know there was such an intricut way to do it:eek:

digitalwanderer
07-17-03, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by wysiwyg
hehe

normally i just slap on the thermal compound:D

didnt know there was such an intricut way to do it:eek:
I just smoosh out enough from the tube tip and draw a layer on in a circular pattern from the center of the chip to the outer edges. I don't squeeze out the paste, I just make sure enough is out of the tube to put down a thin layer...about half as thin as a paper-clip is me favored amount/depth that I shoot for. :)

If I'm putting on a heatsink with clips/posts I cover the entire chip-face, if I'm glueing the heatsink on I leave the corners bare and put a TINY drop of superglue on each one.

The system has worked great for me for a few years now. :)

vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:28 PM
I too smush it out from the tube:D I put a tiny bit on the core and carefully spread it around so there is a thinish layer. The only problem with the Shin Etsu(cheap plug) is that it is fairly thick. The newer version is apparently a lot easier to work with. :)

digitalwanderer
07-17-03, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by vampireuk
I too smush it out from the tube:D I put a tiny bit on the core and carefully spread it around so there is a thinish layer. The only problem with the Shin Etsu(cheap plug) is that it is fairly thick. The newer version is apparently a lot easier to work with. :)
How thick? I sort of like it a bit on the thick side, I'm clumsy and it makes it easier to work with. (I really am clumsy. :rolleyes: )

The Nanotherm BlueII has about the same consistancy as Crest or Colgate toothpaste...which I find to be just about perfect for spreading.

What does the Shin Etsu compare to? (And I'm still trying to find a retailer who delivers to the US.... :rolleyes: I figure I got time, I want it for whenever I buy a new heatsink for me Barton. ;) )

vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:36 PM
Shin Etsu is quite a bit thicker than that, you need a very flat surface to be spreading it with gently otherwise it will cling. It takes a while to get use to it, I sat there and played with it on the core until I got use to it.:D I guess the new version will probably be as thick as toothpaste. The only stockist of Shin Etsu I know is Chillblast (http://www.chillblast.com) and they deliver to the US I believe:)

It's worth a peek just from the fact that it gives you 3 degrees less, from a feking thermal compound.:eek:

ricercar
07-17-03, 01:45 PM
Crazy PC sells Shin Etsu in the USA

http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=120199&Product_Code=50110

digitalwanderer
07-17-03, 01:47 PM
My thanks to both of ya!

Now if I could only figure out where the wife hides the credit card.... (She always seems to change her hiding spot after every major upgrade I do.... ;) )

gokickrocks
07-17-03, 01:51 PM
i use as3, it seems to be the best for subzero temps so far...

but i heard nanotherm silver was the best for near ambient temps

joltcola
07-17-03, 10:58 PM
Another review on Shin Etsu here (http://www.meetthegeeks.org/ourreview/2002/shinetsu/)

I'm getting a tube of this stuff. See how it works for me and the place that I work at.

Never used it before, but with summer here and temps getting higher, maybe a change would be good..


thx for the info

-- jolt

PsychoSy
07-18-03, 01:51 AM
Shin Etzu is distributed in America by Cooler Master.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=85&manufactory=1333&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

I wish I had some right now. :(

All day, my Barton was hitting the high 50s to low 60s just idling and I've been trying all sorts of stuff to bring the temp down. I tried some of that white Radio Shack garbage and that crap dried up within 30 minutes. From there I used the last bit of that generic Silver Stars grease I had (which I barely covered the core with). Nothing I did helped.

My buddy John has AS3 but I can't get ahold of him. :(

Called the local shop. They've got that $20 Cooler Master CP5-6J31C-A4 that I've been looking for but I'm broke until Wednesday. Currently sitting here with the case open and an oscillating fan laying on the floor two feet away pointing towards the inside of the computer...

MBM's On screen display says the CPU is at 49c. :( :( :(

Probably will have to underclock it to keep it from burning up.

I think this will be my LAST AMD! :mad:

At least until they go back to heatspreaders. I pretty much end up spending the savings on heatsinks and TIMs that I might as well jump to the darkside and go Intel. :(

vampireuk
07-18-03, 07:16 AM
SLK-800/900 with Shin-Etsu and a 80mm Delta is your best friend for a AMD:D

Also for a few bucks you can get those coolermaster LED fans, which quite simply rock.:D Kickass cooling and they are pretty to boot:afro2:

volt
07-18-03, 07:34 AM
Get a SLK900+92mm Panaflo :D Very good outcome ;)

The Baron
07-18-03, 08:17 AM
I actually discovered an Enermax speed control fan last night that gives 60-some CFM at 2800RPM at about the same dBA as my Sunon fan. Might give that a shot sometime on my SLK900U sometime.

Plus, 3 pin port. NO MORE DAISY CHAINING 3 FANS! WOOH!