View Full Version : Mercedes-Benz S600 vs. BMW 760Li
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=6741
Check this quote for the Mercedes-Benz S600. Drop the hammer at any speed below 40 mph, and the brakes go to work controlling wheelspin as your neck muscles strain to keep your head level. The acceleration seems just shy of g-sled, cheek-flapping strong and is sufficient to whoosh the S600 to 60 mph in 4.3 seconds, to 100 in 9.7, and through the quarter in 12.5 at 115 mph. That’s neck and neck with a slightly racier 12-banger—the Ferrari 575M Maranello —and the Benz wins the drag race by a 10th! And that peak performance is gained by simply flooring the accelerator. No brake-torque or wheelspinning histrionics required.
BMW 760Li
Highs: Peerless four-throne interior furnishings, twisty-road manners befitting the Ultimate Driving Machine.
Lows: Lumpy throttle-by-wire mapping, controls that coin the word “irkonomics.”
The Verdict: A luxury sedan for drivers whose patience exceeds their wealth.
Mercedes-Benz S600
Highs: Absolute power, corruptive torque, infallible brakes, decisive handling.
Lows: Authoritarian ride harshness and loud tires.
The Verdict: The ideal commuter capsule for those whose lives are a power trip.
BMW 760Li quote. Sometimes Oz simply tilts. One day the car stalled going into reverse, and the navigation system refused to work. Next, the remote fob wouldn’t open the doors or trunk, and we got a message warning that the transmission’s park function “may be disabled—use parking brake.” These problems miraculously healed themselves, unlike when the rear-seat motors went offline (our local dealer says the driver’s power-window disabling switch also kills electricity to the seats). By day two, we were ready to enroll in a 12-step anger-management seminar, and we started to wonder whether powerful CEO types accustomed to barking orders and getting results could ever bond with this car.
Another BMW 760Li quote. Next to the mighty Benz twin-turbo, the 760’s high-tech V-12 struggles to impress, given that each of its 438 horses is saddled with almost two more pounds of car than the Mercedes horses bear. Acceleration trailed the Benz’s by 0.8 second to 60 mph (arriving in a quick 5.1 seconds), and the gap widened to 4.4 seconds at 130 mph. Floor the gas pedal to make a pass, and there is often a disconcerting pause as Oz weighs its options for gearing and valve lift. Note the 0.8-second difference in passing times. Of course, for those who will never sample an S600, the 760’s smooth surge of power surely seems more than adequate.
vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:07 PM
Nice selective quoting there kain:rolleyes:
Hmm now does one buy a expensive sled with a machine gun target bolted on it. Or a cheaper and responsive sports car:p
Here are the results from the Car and Driver magazine that I got yesterday. The highest score in each category is 10.
Mercedes-Benz S600 / BMW 760Li
engine: 10 / 9
transmission: 9 / 8
brakes: 9 / 9
handling: 9 / 10
ride: 9 / 8
driver comfort: 9 / 10
ergonomics: 9 / 6
features and amenities: 8 / 10
fit and finish: 9 / 10
value: 9 / 7
styling: 8 / 7
fun to drive: 9 / 7
overall rating: 98 / 93
Originally posted by vampireuk
Nice selective quoting there kain:rolleyes:
Hmm now does one buy a expensive sled with a machine gun target bolted on it. Or a cheaper and responsive sports car:p As you can probably see, this thread is not regarding sports cars. :rolleyes:
I'll stick with my Gremlin X thank you.
http://www.gremlinx.com/images/index.3Z.jpg
vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Kain
As you can probably see, this thread is not regarding sports cars. :rolleyes:
Of course not, it has a Merc in the testing:rofl
It's funny how everyone tries to "change" the topic of the thread when the Mercedes-Benz clearly smokes the BMW. :rofl
Doesn't matter which one I like. I can't afford either of them.
vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:23 PM
overall rating: 98 / 93
Smoked you say?:retard:
Originally posted by vampireuk
Smoked you say?:retard: Yes, the Mercedes-Benz does smoke the BMW in the performance department.
vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:30 PM
I believe these values sum up the performance of a vehicle well...
engine: 10 / 9
transmission: 9 / 8
brakes: 9 / 9
handling: 9 / 10
ride: 9 / 8
Smoked?
Originally posted by vampireuk
I believe these values sum up the performance of a vehicle well...
engine: 10 / 9
transmission: 9 / 8
brakes: 9 / 9
handling: 9 / 10
ride: 9 / 8
Smoked? I guess you missed this quote? Next to the mighty Benz twin-turbo, the 760’s high-tech V-12 struggles to impress, given that each of its 438 horses is saddled with almost two more pounds of car than the Mercedes horses bear. Acceleration trailed the Benz’s by 0.8 second to 60 mph (arriving in a quick 5.1 seconds), and the gap widened to 4.4 seconds at 130 mph. Floor the gas pedal to make a pass, and there is often a disconcerting pause as Oz weighs its options for gearing and valve lift. Note the 0.8-second difference in passing times. Of course, for those who will never sample an S600, the 760’s smooth surge of power surely seems more than adequate.
vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:40 PM
Speed alone is not the only indicator of performance;)
Originally posted by vampireuk
Speed alone is not the only indicator of performance;) But it is a big player of performance.
vampireuk
07-17-03, 01:58 PM
As is braking, handling and so forth;)
Originally posted by vampireuk
As is braking, handling and so forth;) I agree, the handling and braking of the Mercedes-Benz and BMW is quite similar, but engine and transmission wise, the Mercedes-Benz is superior.
LOL This has to be a record. 17 posts between two people. Get a room. :p
|JuiceZ|
07-17-03, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by UDawg
LOL This has to be a record. 17 posts between two people. Get a room. :p
LOL! really :p
vampireuk
07-17-03, 04:33 PM
Well I would have got a room but then well, shucks Udawg would have gotten all suspicious and be asking me all these questions.
"Don't you love me any more"
"what are you doing in there"
"its me or him"
I can't handle the pressure!!
Umm back on topic anyway:eek: I still prefer BMW's over Mercs. Everyone still sees Mercedes as this big luxuary car while the BMW has the sports tag to it:cool:
Originally posted by vampireuk
I still prefer BMW's over Mercs. Everyone still sees Mercedes as this big luxuary car while the BMW has the sports tag to it:cool: I agree. Mercedes-Benz leans more towards luxury while BMW is slightly more sporty.
However, I prefer Mercedes-Benz over BMW.
Originally posted by vampireuk
Well I would have got a room but then well, shucks Udawg would have gotten all suspicious and be asking me all these questions.
"Don't you love me any more"
"what are you doing in there"
"its me or him"
I can't handle the pressure!!
Umm back on topic anyway:eek: I still prefer BMW's over Mercs. Everyone still sees Mercedes as this big luxuary car while the BMW has the sports tag to it:cool:
I was testing to see where your loyalties lie. ;)
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