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DSC
07-17-03, 03:29 PM
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6904

MuFu wrote in the thread above:

P.S. NV36 has a 256-bit memory bus, BTW.

Don't know how reliable is the info, but......

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Paul
07-17-03, 04:09 PM
Seems a reasonably obvious point. It has to sit inbetween the NV31 and NV35, so it's going to need a fairly substantial performance boost over the NV31 - And the 256bit bus will help in the AA/AF situations that the NV31 currently chokes in.

Uttar
07-19-03, 04:34 PM
True.


Uttar

Dazz
07-20-03, 09:37 AM
That and the memory clock isn’t all that great, 650MHz 256bit (20GB/s) will probably cost as much as 800MHz 128bit (12.8GB/sec) memory. The core sounds bang on also, half the pipelines yet has a fast core clock speed, heck 'if' it gets announced soon i think i would pick that up over the Radeon 9700NP that i am currently looking at, but it better be soon.

Dazz
07-24-03, 05:58 PM
Uttar said at his site that this may now be wrong and it will have 128bit memory, if this is the case then should i just pick up a Radeon 9700NP unlocked now?

Carbon Unit
07-26-03, 09:58 PM
GeForce FX 5700 will have a 500 core 700mhz 256bit mem with 4 rendering pipelines:afro2:

Dazz
07-27-03, 05:22 AM
What makes you say it's going to be 700MHz memory clock?

BigFish7
07-27-03, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by Utter
Finally, a last comment on the NV36: It seems the NV36 would have even more bandwidth than we originally expected: 500/400 for the Ultra, and 400/325 for the Regular. I'd rate that info as "Fairly High", because frankly, I'd still like some confirmations on it...


meaning the mistake was on the good side... ;)

Uttar
07-27-03, 05:50 AM
Well, that is, if there isn't another mistake, lol.
Although, right now, I'd still be quite surprised if that wasn't correct!


Uttar

BigFish7
07-27-03, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by Uttar
Well, that is, if there isn't another mistake, lol.
Although, right now, I'd still be quite surprised if that wasn't correct!


Uttar


hehe god not another mistake i can't hold it anymore my heart is about to explode ;) .

na i hope you got it right this time :D people make mistakes even all mighty Utter :)

Dazz
07-27-03, 06:13 AM
"Wake me up when it's announced"
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Geforce4ti4200
07-27-03, 06:59 PM
wouldnt 500/700 be like the fx5900 non ultra except a crippled core?

Dazz
07-27-03, 07:14 PM
Yeap althought the regular FX5900 is clocked at 400/850MHz. Thats why i can't see the FX5700Ultra using 800MHz 256bit ram.

Carbon Unit
07-27-03, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
What makes you say it's going to be 700MHz memory clock?

sorry I meant 650mhz... Im sure it will oc to 700Mhz (Im think this was the 5900 value card?)

nVidia GeForce FX 5700 (NV36) is expected to be released in September. NV36 is expected to be the successor to NV31 (the GeForce FX 5600 series) and be based on NV35 (GeForce FX 5900 series) technology. The NV36 is targeted at the performance end of the mainstream market and is expected to feature a core clock of roughly 500Mhz, a memory clock of around 325Mhz DDR (650Mhz) with a 256-bit memory path and 4 rendering pipelines.


http://www.mikeshardware.co.uk/



:angel:

Geforce4ti4200
07-28-03, 12:30 AM
itll eat the fx5600u no doubt, 100MHz faster core, nearly double bandwith, would it be like the fx5800u that died early?

prodikal
07-28-03, 01:54 AM
Does Uttar work nVidia or is he just like the guy in jail that "can get thing"? lol

Uttar
07-28-03, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by ricercar
I tend to believe what I read next to Uttar's byline (assuming I can follow the technical talk :rolleyes: ). As near as I figure it, Uttar and Mufu are students with sources inside ATI and/or NVIDIA. How they got them, is anyone's guess,

Very right indeed! :)
Although a few additions are in order:

1) Me and MuFu are students, but not of the same age at all. He's 3/2 my age. In fact, according to puritains, the term "student" isn't even appropriate for me. Damn all those puritains, or whatever the way you're supposed to spell that thing! ;)

2) Good luck figuring out what comes from my sources and what comes from MuFu's sometimes. ATI likes their new "Misinformation campaign", and well, I like my "Good luck figuring out who's the REAL source" campaign, hehe - and it's sometimes not limited to me and MuFu, although that's rarer.

3) The ways we got our sources is very different for me and for MuFu. For MuFu, for example, it's simply by someone once contacting him about something because he wondered, then people found him reliable and sources sent him info.

4) Don't worry about not understanding my technical details. Recently met someone who, I'm sure, could lose me in GPU technical details in less than 1 minute! Yes, you maybe don't want to speak with him, lol ( he knows a LOT of info, too - the number of sources he must have is so darn stunning that I'm simply frightened by it... And he got sources of types that are very, very hard to get, too... )


And FYI, I don't even expect myself to make any studies even very slightly related to GPUs or even ASICs or drivers.
And I also expect a certain project of mine ( which I'm still at the designing stage ) , providing "substantial" benefits to a "very large" amount of people, to be ready for release within the next billion years! ;)
If the idea is as good as I expect it to be, well, I bet you'll all be "Why the world did nobody think about that before?!"...

No, I don't want to overhype it, even more so considering how I'm not very far in the project at all, so no details for now :) ( although considering I don't want to overhype it, I probably shouldn't even have posted this, lol )


Uttar

Dazz
07-28-03, 05:12 PM
Hmm so i can't get a frying and knock it out of you ;)

MuFu
07-28-03, 09:59 PM
I suspect there will be a version of NV36 with a 128-bit memory interface - perhaps pin-compatible with the NV18b/NV34/NV31 etc.

MuFu.

P.S. I have no sources at ATi or nVidia.

Uttar
07-29-03, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by MuFu
I suspect there will be a version of NV36 with a 128-bit memory interface - perhaps pin-compatible with the NV18b/NV34/NV31 etc.

MuFu.

P.S. I have no sources at ATi or nVidia.

Actually, I doubt that, MuFu. The original info I got, which was from "someone else", mentionned a "256-bit memory bus, 400Mhz, 325Mhz memory" NV36 - but yes, you might still be right there - we'll see that soon enough, won't we? :)

What might happen, though, is that nVidia would decide to make the same board for the two NV36s: The board having become quite expensive, mass production could help IMO... But that part is really 100% speculation.

--- EDITED: Worst joke ever removed, trust me: it's for your own good. ---

BTW, I don't really have sources, just godly speculation abilities which made me right on just about every try. Primary reason nVidia will have a hard time figuring out who are my sources ;)


Uttar

Dazz
07-29-03, 09:44 AM
So i've got about 2 month to save up for it now :o just spent my money on a XO2500+ now :D shame my video card is now the bottleneck :rolleyes: