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Dazz
07-26-03, 01:21 PM
I still hope it has a 256bit bus and 500MHz core, otherwise i am getting a Radeon 9700NP i just hope that i havn't waited for nothing. But known my luck it won't have either lmfao.

BigFish7
07-26-03, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by SurfMonkey
They do link to the NFI site though at the bottom of the article, so they haven't really plagarised it.
i think they updated it after they saw TB post ;)
:rofl

BigFish7
07-26-03, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
I still hope it has a 256bit bus and 500MHz core, otherwise i am getting a Radeon 9700NP i just hope that i havn't waited for nothing. But known my luck it won't have either lmfao.

well , i hope if it won't then let it be something like 480MHz or 475MHz and not lower .
btw it would surely be a 256Bit memory bus...(therefore i don't know why you're hoping for a 256bit memory bus).

BTw check the Latest GRW about the NV36 it says
500/400 c/m whilie using 256bit mem bus for the ultra version and 400/325 c/m while using 256Bit mem bus for the vanilla version.

Dazz
07-26-03, 02:21 PM
I don't know i find it hard to belive they would have 800MHz 256bit DDR, so i am guessing he means 500MHz core and 800MHz 128bit memory, in otherwords it's just a NV31 with an updated core and that all and they can still use the same PCB.

Anyone know of any reviews where they overclock the FX5600Ultra rev2?

Uttar
07-26-03, 02:37 PM
Well, I do still believe it's a 256-bit memory bus...
Only way it could be a 128-bit one is that nVidia is trying really, really hard to overhype this part... Hmm...


Uttar

Dazz
07-26-03, 02:41 PM
lol I guess but, look for the best prepare for the worst.
I was looking at this review where they got their card to 492/945MHz http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc4LDM=

BigFish7
07-26-03, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
lol I guess but, look for the best prepare for the worst.
I was looking at this review where they got their card to 492/945MHz http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc4LDM=
i have seen some kr reviews, cards were runing 505/920 - 490/910.
that should give you the id for the oc potential.

P.S i'm sure it's 256bit mem bus due to the fact that it's nv's answer to 9700pro and none pro same as to the 9800N...
there is no way nv can do that (show good scores) using 128bit mem bus.

Dazz
07-26-03, 05:56 PM
Hopfully it will get announced on thursday or earlier :) then hopfully there will be previews up soon after :)

Geforce4ti4200
07-26-03, 07:30 PM
the fx6000 aka nv38 may be 500 core, after all they got it on the fx5800u but this time their yields for 500MHz should be better by now. also the ram should be 900 or even 1GHz 256 bit for tons of bandwith.


450/850 was fx5900u
500/900 makes sense for fx6000u

Dazz
07-26-03, 07:58 PM
Wrong thread BTW, anyway i would say FX6x00 would be reserved for the NV4x Range.

outsider
07-30-03, 12:43 AM
Will there be a FX 5900 Value card or will FX 5700U be considered an FX 5900 Value?

Dazz
07-30-03, 04:34 AM
Hard to say although people have said the FX5900 Value will be fore the OEM market.

Uttar
07-30-03, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by Dazz
Hopfully it will get announced on thursday or earlier :) then hopfully there will be previews up soon after :)

What? NV36 announced on thursday? :confused:
Patience is the key, ah yes, patience...


Uttar

Geforce4ti4200
07-30-03, 09:02 AM
wow you mean tomorrow itll be posted all over for previews? man if thats true............:D

Uttar
07-30-03, 09:32 AM
I don't know where that idea came from, but AFAIK, don't expect the NV36 for a while.


Uttar

Dazz
07-30-03, 01:04 PM
I heard people say it should be announced at Siggraph 2003 but won't hit retail till mid to late september.

outsider
07-30-03, 01:10 PM
I am thinking whether getting a FX5600U (Flip-chip) 400/800Mhz at a cheap price or wait? Is there a great performance difference for FX5700?

Dazz
07-30-03, 01:50 PM
Nobody knows thats the problem.

MuFu
07-30-03, 03:43 PM
I honestly wouldn't like to call the 128/256-bit interface prediction now. Got two reliable sources saying 256-bit and one saying 128-bit definite due to margin considerations (<20% projected with a 256-bit interface, the necessary PGA and board).

MuFu.

Uttar
07-30-03, 05:49 PM
Yeah, the NV36 stuff is getting really annoying...
So darn much confusion about this part, which is yet so fricking simple in theory. It's what the NV31 of the NV35, no mystery there.

And yet as soon as we enter into the world of memory buses, nobody knows anything anymore... Bah...

Which is why I suspect the Ultra & Regular models might differ. $299 for the Ultra, and $199 for the Regular, with the Ultra having a 256-bit memory bus and the Regular a 128-bit one...

If that was true, the FX5700 Ultra would sound like a huge marketing scam to sell Regulars, hehe. FX5200 Ultra, anyone?

I don't know. The bad thing here really is that if one thing is true, the FX 5700 completely devastates everything ATI got. If it's false, well, nVidia isn't going to look too competitive.


Uttar

Dazz
07-30-03, 06:41 PM
BUt is't i said ATi will have a 4x1 w/ 256bit bus Radeon 9800SE and a 8x1 w/ 128bit bus?

Geforce4ti4200
07-31-03, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by Dazz
BUt is't i said ATi will have a 4x1 w/ 256bit bus Radeon 9800SE and a 8x1 w/ 128bit bus?


wow now this gets interesting, which is more important, good core or heaps of memory bandwith and which is a better deal if both are clocked and priced the same? would the 256 bit bus be the better deal cause fsaa and high res likes heaps of bandwith, also the core overclocks better than the ram?

Dazz
08-05-03, 06:50 AM
Hey it's been a bit quite on the NV36 front hasn't it?

Geforce4ti4200
08-05-03, 11:29 AM
probably a delay or cancellation as Nvidia focuses on the nv38 instead.........

reever2
08-05-03, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
wow now this gets interesting, which is more important, good core or heaps of memory bandwith and which is a better deal if both are clocked and priced the same? would the 256 bit bus be the better deal cause fsaa and high res likes heaps of bandwith, also the core overclocks better than the ram?

Good core. Remember the 9500 non-pro? 4x1 256-bit bus, which was effectively wasted and didnt have any advantages over the new verion PCB that only has the 128-bit bus. I still think the extra memory bandwidth will be wasted using a 4x1 just like it was in the 9500