nVNews EVGA GTX 465 SC Review Feedback Thread

[ragejg]

Along with a bunch of other sites, nVNews was able to get a Day 1 Launch review of the Geforce GTX 465 out at 3:13AM on May 31!

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Review link - HERE (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=151518)

Compare card was a Sapphire Radeon HD 5830. Resolutions used were HDTV resolutions of 1280x720 and 1920x1080. ... And one unique thing about the nVNews review is that all benchmarks were done at stock and overclocked frequencies for both cards. It took a little extra work but it was worth it.

I hope you enjoy the review, and I also hope it helps answer any questions about NVIDIA's first sub-$300 Fermi-based video card.

PS: Our thanks go out to EVGA for providing a review sample.

[MUYA]

Good job rage! :)

[MikeC]

Considering how little time you had the card, this was an excellent article. Great selection of benchmarks.

Now keep playing with it and tell us moar :)

[Madpistol]

Good job with the article ragejg!

To be honest, I'm a little bit disappointed by the card... again. It's created as a high performance part at a lower price, but it's about the same speed as a 5830. However, the 5830 is cheaper to begin with, and the power usage of the 5830 is lower too. The cards trade blows. The GTX 465 wins the tests which require advanced features like heavy tessellation. That's to be expected though as it's a Fermi part, and Fermi cards excel at tessellation.

I'm no market analyst, but I think that in order for this card to compete, they need to drop the price another $30. Otherwise, the 5830 or 5850 is a no brainer compared to this card.

I know this is an Nvidia fansite, but the 5850 still seems to be the card to have at the moment. The price is perfect, the performance is where it needs to be, and it doesn't use an inordinate amount of power.

The GTX 465 seems to be a good product, but there are compromises. When you have to compromise on price to get a certain manufacturers product, that's never a good thing.

[noko]

I was surprised and some what stunned seeing the 5830 taking some of the benches. Also tesselation performance was still very good even with less shaders on the 465 which is a good thing. I would like to see some PhysX benchmarks, as in Batman AA with PhysX on and off at high settings, will this card perform fast enough with PhysX on with high settings or does something have to give? I think the resolution selection for the review was right on the money for this class of cards. Good job in the end.

[ragejg]

Thanks for the comments everyone. I really thought that the 460 or 465, whenever the first one came out, would be aimed directly at the HD 5830. Turns out, NVIDIA was aiming in between HD 5830 and HD 5850. I also thought the price was going to be competitive with the HD 5830. That's why I bought one. If I'd have known that once the card came out everyone would be comparing it to the 5850 instead I would have picked one up instead of a 5830.

Whatever the case, these are both the THIRD release in ATI and NVIDIA's enthusiast product line. If some of teh delays didn't happen, I'm willing to bet that these two would have been released at the same time, at the same price.

For what it's worth I'm a little afraid of popping the HD 4890 in. For many, it has kept right up with the HD 5830, and so by extension, it would also be able to keep up with a 465. I don't know what to think of that.

[ragejg]

Oops, can this get moved to the articles section? I'm not a mod in this subforum.

[Maverick123w]

I think you have the transistor counts for the cards reversed.

[ragejg]

Yup. Lack of sleep kinda got to me at the end. Fixing it now.

[ragejg]

Gaming benchmark section tweaked/conclusion slightly re-written.

[caveman-jim]

nice job!

[ragejg]

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Thanks Jim.


:p

Over @ [h] this review got a little bit of flak for not being.. well, not being an [h] review I guess. This is my first review since like December 2004, so I'm just getting my review legs back. I sure hope that I can utilize some of my crazy ideas for future reviews, ones that I have more than 3-4 days to write. :p Thank jeebus that I was already making an HD 5830 review or I would have had to resign to making an even more restrictive
First Look" review.

[bob saget]

loved it. :thumbsup:

[jAkUp]

Cool! :)

[nekrosoft13]

good work rage

[ragejg]

I cleaned it up a bit this AM.. took my sig out of all the posts (why didn't I think of that earlier?) and added some vital info to the conclusion.

Another product by EVGA with great support via lifetime warranty and well-written bundled software, that's for darn sure. :thumbsup:

[DiscipleDOC]

Yea bro...you did a really good review. :thumbsup:

[Redeemed]

Excellent review, buddy!

After reading it, I'm still leaning towards either picking up the 5850 or just go with my original plan and grab the 5770.

Either way, solid review of a solid card. :)

[HYBRID]

Excellent review, good read and excellent choice of game selections.

I do agree with Madpistol if this card came in at $239.00 or $249.00 it would have been right in the middle of the 5830/5850 parts, making it a more attractive part, but at $279.00 its a little more difficult if your on the fence when considering the ATI parts.

[ragejg]

Excellent review, good read and excellent choice of game selections.

I do agree with Madpistol if this card came in at $239.00 or $249.00 it would have been right in the middle of the 5830/5850 parts, making it a more attractive part, but at $279.00 its a little more difficult if your on the fence when considering the ATI parts.

Thanks HYBRID and others here with you compliments.

I know this review can't compete with the larger sites' reviews (due to a short timetable, slightly limited game selection and the fact that I'm a little review-rusty), so I understand some of the criticism
out there. [H] was really rough on me about this review, actually causing me to have to be a bit defensive (seems that [H] folks aren't very nice, welcoming or politely objective any more). I think they didn't understand the concept of "short timetable". Engadget, the EVGA forums and here haven't been anywhere near as harsh.

I am however going to do all I can to insure that my next official review is competitive and silences the critics. :)

[t3hl33td4rg0n]

I think its a good review, simple and to the point. Personally, I don't need 5 pages of card shots and useless information.

:thumbsup:

I may consider getting one of these or a 470 for my next rig, albeit the BC2 results are a little disappointing.

[ragejg]

I think its a good review, simple and to the point. Personally, I don't need 5 pages of card shots and useless information.

:thumbsup:

I may consider getting one of these or a 470 for my next rig, albeit the BC2 results are a little disappointing.

I have a feeling that the 465 is more sensitive to cpu limitation than something like the HD 5830. I'm gonna run some more benches for the game, albeit on my Phenom II x3 @ x4 3.1ghz rig.

[t3hl33td4rg0n]

I have a feeling that the 465 is more sensitive to cpu limitation than something like the HD 5830. I'm gonna run some more benches for the game, albeit on my Phenom II x3 @ x4 3.1ghz rig.

It does seem like bit of a CPU limitation, I wouldn't be surprised if it scaled up with a better CPU, especially in BC2 which really doesn't take full advantage of the GPU.

Hopefully, adobe will add some support for the 4xx series in Premiere as well.

[ViN86]

Nice review :)

You should add some graphs and format it and have MikeC add it to the main page.

[RollinThundr]

I thought it was a very well written and through review rage. Its actually the card I'm putting in the new machine I just ordered since I tend to perfer Nvidia parts over ATI's.