Movies. They're worth it?

[vampireuk]

Looks like the movie industry is off now.

Article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3085875.stm)

The first of several trailers will begin running Friday in most major cinema chains around the US.

The first trailer features David Goldstein, a set painter who says that piracy hurts him more than film industry executives.

Each ad ends with the tag line: "Movies. They're worth it."

The campaign will also include a website that outlines the implications of illegal downloading as well as the legal and practical consequences.

"Taking something that doesn't belong to you is wrong," said Jack Valenti, president of the MPAA.

"It's in the long term interest of people to understand there is no free lunch."

And the damned site itself (http://respectcopyrights.org/hear-artists.html)

Movies. They're worth it

No that's the god damn problem in the first place, they are not worth it. I have seen three movies this year, Matrix reloaded, Bruce almighty and that damn 2 fast 2 furious sequel thing(not my idea to see it).

The Matrix was good, Bruce almighty was ok and 2 fast 2 furious was the worst piece of trash I have seen in a long time. The 5 minutes I spent walking out and going to take a piss were more enjoyable than the movie. The vast majority of modern movies are the most pathetic and badly produced trash ever. The movie industry also needs to learn that people will not pay for crap.

[intercede007]

28 Days Later was worth it :thumbsup:

[Sazar]

movies I have seen that are either worth it or just slightly over-rpiced..

finding nemo / pirates of the caribbean / bad boys II (well cept for the last 15 odd minutes) / johnny english / terminator 3 / matrix reloaded / finding schmidt / hulk / can't remember others off the top of my head but those stood out...

some of hte worst crap out there... 2 fast 2 furious was an insult to ones intelligence... specially if you knew anything about cars... and charlies angels... I mean WTF was that ?

no.. not all movies are worth it... and the more ads that come out like this.. the more I am disinclined to acquiesce :D (had to say that.. I love pirates of the caribbean)

[Riptide]

Some movies are worth paying for. Most are not.

Quite a few are worth downloading but certainly not paying for. ;)

[The Baron]

Pay channels kick ass--see really bad movies in the comfort of your own home! :D

Meh, I don't think they have to worry about piracy too much. It's still too tricky for most people to get a decent quality rip of anything that they would want to see.

[-=Gib-McFragger=-]

Originally posted by Sazar
no.. not all movies are worth it... and the more ads that come out like this.. the more I am disinclined to acquiesce :D (had to say that.. I love pirates of the caribbean)

LOL Yea, that was a great movie. Might see it again.

Most movies nowadays are crap. I don't know what you pay to see a movie there, but we pay $14.50 Canadian. For our $14.50, we get the pleasure of sitting through several FRIGGIN COMMERCIALS before several trailers before watching a movie that 90% of the time isn't worth $4 to see, let alone $14.

And they wonder why people pir8 movies. :rolleyes:

[2fast4u]

movies ive seen in recent weeks...

2 fast 2 furious - dont mention it. ever.
matrix reloaded - expected more
bruce almighty - expected more

bottom line of most ive seen is that there is a lack of current good movies and i still regret paying for some of them. im especially sick of all the godamn sh|tty sequels coming out lately.

[Riptide]

I agree that the commercials are way out of hand... Ten years ago it wasn't like that. Now I have to sit through literally nearly 30 minutes worth of garbage just to get to the movie. When the movie lasts 2 hours or more in some cases that almost GUARANTEES a trip to the bathroom which interrupts what I actually paid to see. C'mon, this is out of control!

Kinda like the proliferation of all these ridiculous drug ads on television. Anyone else sick of hearing "Celebrate! Celebrate! C'mon and celebrate!" on TV? I wish they would just SHUT UP already.

[UDawg]

I like it when the lady behind you brings her bag of Ruffles to the show and opens them during the movie. That noise drives me up the wall. Then she keeps cramming her greasy hand in there to shove more down her hole. Over and OVER and OVER!!! LOUDER LOUDER and LOUDER!!! *crinkle crinkle crinkle*!!!


AHHHH MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

[-=Gib-McFragger=-]

Originally posted by UDawg
I like it when the lady behind you brings her bag of Ruffles to the show and opens them during the movie. That noise drives me up the wall. Then she keeps cramming her greasy hand in there to shove more down her hole. Over and OVER and OVER!!! LOUDER LOUDER and LOUDER!!! *crinkle crinkle crinkle*!!!


AHHHH MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

I remember when I was at a movie ages ago, and the little sh*ts in the row in front of us were flinging popcorn around and being loud through the movie, which was pissing EVERYONE off. I finally had enough about 1/2 way through the movie and I leaned forward and dumped my large drink over his head. I got a standing ovation from everyone, LOL. :thumbsup:

[Darth Rancid]

Well.. the movie Industry is currently producing large amounts of rubbish it seems like... and small amounts of "OK or better" movies...
But that doesn't justify piracy in any way... You buy a product or you don't... If its overpriced or crappy, don't buy it... sure, it can be hard to know before you see a movie whether or not it is any good. That will allways be a problem with movies, but it still doesn't justify piracy... and in the case of 2 Fast 2 Furious, you knew it was going to suck, didn't you? :)

I know the movie industry and the music industry has been doing lots of idiotic stuff to stop piracy, and it allways end up hurting the guys who buy the CDs or DVDs but never even slow down piracy, and I wish they'd stop doing these things, but I understand that they want to protect their products from piracy...

[Riptide]

Originally posted by UDawg
I like it when the lady behind you brings her bag of Ruffles to the show and opens them during the movie. That noise drives me up the wall. Then she keeps cramming her greasy hand in there to shove more down her hole. Over and OVER and OVER!!! LOUDER LOUDER and LOUDER!!! *crinkle crinkle crinkle*!!!
AHHHH MAKE IT STOP!!!!!
People that bring small childeren into movies, then let them run amok and make noise and such, should be shot. Seems there is always someone that does this. I personally think there should be rules at movie theatres stating noone under the age of 12 should be admitted with or without parents present. I'm sick of putting up with that crap. :(

[UDawg]

Originally posted by Riptide
People that bring small childeren into movies, then let them run amok and make noise and such, should be shot. Seems there is always someone that does this. I personally think there should be rules at movie theatres stating noone under the age of 12 should be admitted with or without parents present. I'm sick of putting up with that crap. :(

I agree. I see kids in R rated movies. WTH is that!? I only take my son to kids movies. First off he doesn't need to see the filth I see. ;) Second I don't to be bugged by kids so I don't bring mine to bug others.

[vampireuk]

IMO in most cases it does justify piracy, I am not going to shell out cash to see some crap when I can watch it at home if I get really really bored. If Hollywood made movies worth paying for then I would pay for them. Again I'm not talking about the mass pirates who download everything and buy absolutly nothing;)

[UDawg]

Originally posted by vampireuk
IMO in most cases it does justify piracy, I am not going to shell out cash to see some crap when I can watch it at home if I get really really bored. If Hollywood made movies worth paying for then I would pay for them. Again I'm not talking about the mass pirates who download everything and buy absolutly nothing;)

Exactly! If they put out stuff people want to see they will go to the theaters no matter what.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by vampireuk
IMO in most cases it does justify piracy, I am not going to shell out cash to see some crap when I can watch it at home if I get really really bored. If Hollywood made movies worth paying for then I would pay for them. Again I'm not talking about the mass pirates who download everything and buy absolutly nothing;)

That's ridiculous. Nothing "justifies" piracy. If you want to watch a movie but don't want to pay, don't watch it. It's really that simple. If you break the law and download it, and acknowledge that you do so, that again is your choice. But don't try to feed your moral superiority line as a reason. Nothing is free to make, no matter how bad it is. The fact that you would even watch it at all says something.

The only "justifiable" case of piracy is how the damn studios make us wait like 12 months before bringing the damn movies out to retail.

[Edge]

Here's an idea: Actually make a movie that I like enough to see in the theater! If you download a movie and watch it, and don't think it's good enough to see on the big screen, then it isn't worth giving them money for. Maybe I'd pick it up on DVD when I see it in a pawn shop, but there are quite simply too many movies out there that are true garbage and only do well because they get a bunch of popular celebrities to play the parts (and who wouldn't want the person you know in one movie as the helpful assistant to be a drag queen in another movie :rolleyes: ). When they stop spending all thier money on hiring "acting talent" and start coming up with interesting stories, I'll actually see it in the theater. I don't care who plays the parts, if it's not interesting I'm not going to bother with it.

One of the reasons I like anime is because it actually does something different, and don't just lay the whole story (which in American movies usually consists of "guy must save girl") right in front of you like you're a 2 year old. And if a bunch of low-budget film writers can write a better story for a cheaply made anime then a bunch of "well respected" directors can write a $100+ million doller movie, what does that tell you about where our values lie?

[LORD-eX-Bu]

heh, I just wait for DVD on most, I go to the movies mainly just to go out, have fun, not really for the movies anymore because(as has already been stated) there aren't any really good ones out.

On a side note, just got Tears of the Sun on DVD, watched it and almost fell asleep, the movie was okay, but I was expecting more out of it... HAH! TAKE THAT UDAWG!:p

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
That's ridiculous. Nothing "justifies" piracy. If you want to watch a movie but don't want to pay, don't watch it. It's really that simple. If you break the law and download it, and acknowledge that you do so, that again is your choice. But don't try to feed your moral superiority line as a reason. Nothing is free to make, no matter how bad it is. The fact that you would even watch it at all says something.

The only "justifiable" case of piracy is how the damn studios make us wait like 12 months before bringing the damn movies out to retail.

Hey hey, now don't you try the moral superiority line:p

If I watch a crap movie I remove it from my computer and bleach my eyes, if by the slightest chance I happen to like, I go out and buy it:p

Now if you can't wait 12 months then the movie could not have been that good;) :D

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Hey hey, now don't you try the moral superiority line:p

If I watch a crap movie I remove it from my computer and bleach my eyes, if by the slightest chance I happen to like, I go out and buy it:p

Now if you can't wait 12 months then the movie could not have been that good;) :D

On the contrary, I want to keep watching the movie in the interim 12 months, and then I go buy the DVD :p

[vampireuk]

Same here:eek2: :angel:

[Lucien1964]

I watch the majority of my movies on DVD. Rent them first if I like the movie I buy it. I do go to the theaters for big releases only . LOTR, Marix Reloaded,T3 etc. Most of the time it turns out to be a great experience.Once in a while I see a bad movie in the theaters and that pisses me off bigtime.

My DVD collection has expanded bigtime. I'm up to 185 movies. :)

[Son Goku]

Ya know, personally I don't like this whole cheap gimmick on the part of the MPAA or whomever one bit. Instead of having real discussions about the DMCA, SSSCA (now the digital TV and broadband "promotion" act...what a crock for a name change) and other such bills, or TCPA hardware and Hollywood having veto power over the tech industry; they resort to cheap marketing gimmicks meant to brainwash the public as if we were all some kind of automaton or mechinization man. Here's a clue Hollywood, the Terminator is in the movie, we aren't your pet machines to be programmed.

Even worse, this is put in movies that paying movie goers have gone to see as it's presented on the big screen (whereas those who rip it to file could probably just leave the previews out).

Hollywood, you have just given me another reason to deliberately arrive late to all the movies I go to see. I don't need to see inane social commercials about "love, pass it on", all the commercials about American Express Blue, Coca-cola, and I do not have an aspiration to drive a minivan from Volvo thank you very much. Nor would I go to the movie if I was more interested in what was on ABC TV at that moment. You can keep your previews, which aren't just movie previews anymore, to yourself, I can arrive 5 or 10 minutes late thank you very much.

And if we have to here marketing gimicks, let us at least try to get something that puts Hollywood a bit in perspective shall we? Like this clip about the "Tinsel Town Club". Hey, more then one person can play the "message for public consumption game":

http://action.eff.org/tinseltown/

[nin_fragile14]

I've never understood the appeal of pirating movies on your computer anyway. They have low resolution, crappy sound, and a shaky camera if it's a new release. Even if the movie sucks, I'd still take a $5.50 matinee showing with Dolby Digital Sound, a big screen, and comfortable seats over searching Kazaa for a picture that looks and sounds like garbage.

[demonized]

Originally posted by nin_fragile14
I've never understood the appeal of pirating movies on your computer anyway. They have low resolution, crappy sound, and a shaky camera if it's a new release. Even if the movie sucks, I'd still take a $5.50 matinee showing with Dolby Digital Sound, a big screen, and comfortable seats over searching Kazaa for a picture that looks and sounds like garbage.


Not if you get the DVD ripped files which has relly good quality and if you have an nforce 2 mobo you could just let it encode it to dolby digital while playing. It just sucks going to the movies this days. about 15-20 of commercials before the movie the starts. Food that costs so much. The last time i watched a movie (28 days later) there was an old man staring at me instead of watching the damn movie. I watch atleast 2 movies a month. I only download when my dad wants to watch something thats not in the theatres anymore.