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Son Goku
07-23-03, 09:01 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31891.html

MIT says RIAA is legally challenged
By Ashlee Vance in Chicago
Posted: 23/07/2003 at 04:14 GMT

After issuing a subpoena to the MIT, the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) finds itself in yet another legal battle as university officials have refused to divulge their students' names. MIT is protecting students suspected of trading copyrighted files, citing privacy concerns and improper legal tactics by the RIAA as a defense.

"MIT of course has a policy of complying with lawfully issued subpoenas," the school said in a statement. "But in this case we have been advised by counsel that the subpoena was not in compliance with the court rules that apply to these subpoenas, and did not allow MIT time to send any notice as the law requires."

In its haste to fine and/or imprison music fans, the RIAA did not give MIT ample time to contact students about the subpoenas.

"A different federal law, the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act, prohibits colleges and universities from disclosing information about students except in certain situations. One of the situations is when an educational institution is served with valid subpoenas. However, even when valid subpoenas are served, the law requires the educational institution to give students advance notice of the existence of the subpoenas, so that they can take whatever action they may choose to try to protect their information from disclosure," MIT said.

After suing one P2P site after another, one would have thought the RIAA had mastered the art of IP litigation.

Even Michael Jackson is concerned about the war on music fans. Why do the labels need such aggressive measures in their pursuit of our youth? Why not give universities a bit of time to look after the concerns of their students?

Have we missed something? ®

vampireuk
07-24-03, 06:15 AM
The RIAA also stated they are disapointed that the school has done this. Disapointed in what?! They stood up and layed down the fricking law, RIAA are constantly pissing me off beyond belief. They think laws do not apply to them:mad:

1stFlight
07-24-03, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by vampireuk
The RIAA also stated they are disapointed that the school has done this. Disapointed in what?! They stood up and layed down the fricking law, RIAA are constantly pissing me off beyond belief. They think laws do not apply to them:mad:

I relish in their disapointment....maybe they'll get the point eventually.

On the other side, is it really wise to go after the students of a school that trains some of the best engineers on the planet? I'm starting to wonder if the RIAA really values their network. An MIT hack would be nothing short of of stunning.

Son Goku
07-24-03, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by vampireuk
The RIAA also stated they are disapointed that the school has done this. Disapointed in what?! They stood up and layed down the fricking law, RIAA are constantly pissing me off beyond belief. They think laws do not apply to them:mad:

And to make matters worse, they have their pet senators like Burman (the P2P hack bill) and Hollings who are willingly obidient to pass legislation to make it easier for the RIAA to screw it over everyone else, even while indeminifying them from their own wrong doing.

Then the saga continues with

http://theregister.co.uk/content/6/31287.html

and one bill named to something like the "consumer, computer owner, and artist protection act, despite the fact that the computer owners and consumers are definitely not being protected themselves...and that many artists don't feel the RIAA has their best interests at heart in all of this either. It's more about power, control, and money, then anything else.

Yes Congress...lets all go pass vigelante bills now and create a state of lawlessness to benefit the exploitive cartel. Berman, yearning for the days of the old West again perhaps?

netviper13
07-24-03, 08:17 PM
Oh the day hackers decide to take their revenge against Corporate America will be a great one. I'll sit back with a nice cold one (Pepsi of course ;)) and watch the websites fall. :afro:

Kandoko
07-25-03, 08:14 PM
Or better yet watch all those lovely oversea "retirement" funds and bank accounts vaporize.

I want someone to file a warrent to sieze a computer from some of the senetor's (son/s, daughter/s, niece/s etc.) for copyright infringement just to see Berman and Hollings reactions. :p

LORD-eX-Bu
07-25-03, 09:05 PM
lmao, right.

looks like a few of you have watched the movie "Hackers"(worst movie ever btw ;)) one too many times:rofl

netviper13
07-25-03, 10:33 PM
Hey man, as sad as it is Script Kiddies rule the internet anymore. If every single hacker in this nation was pissed off at the same group all at once, God have mercy on them. Hell hackers already took down several root DNS servers, compared to that how hard can it be to take down the RIAA?

DaveW
07-26-03, 09:12 AM
I think it would be cool if all viruses were written so that if they infected a PC on RIAA's domain the payload was much worse.