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Geforce4ti4200
08-10-03, 08:42 AM
OMG! :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl:
depending on how much you know, this might or might not be a stupid question. But will prescott run or have the potential to run on the current batch of springdale/canterwood mobos? I guess if it's a different pincount or layout, then forget it. But if it's simply a matter of fsb/cache size/voltage, should be fine right?
whoa, that was post 66. Had to post another one right away so it won't show that :)
No man thats 666 is when you have to worry, thats why Intel decided to to skip there 667MHz FSB :D
silence
08-10-03, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by eesa
depending on how much you know, this might or might not be a stupid question. But will prescott run or have the potential to run on the current batch of springdale/canterwood mobos? I guess if it's a different pincount or layout, then forget it. But if it's simply a matter of fsb/cache size/voltage, should be fine right?
nope..current mobos won't be able to run prescott.....power issue->something with either diff power requirements or heat issues, i read about it, but that's all i know.....
Originally posted by Dazz
No man thats 666 is when you have to worry, thats why Intel decided to to skip there 667MHz FSB :D
:eek: ....:D
Besides Intel has not said they will work with current boards, only the manufatures have. Intel has been hush hush which is worrying to say the least!!
Originally posted by Dazz
No man thats 666 is when you have to worry, thats why Intel decided to to skip there 667MHz FSB :D
Yeah I know. I actually have that cpu, and I o/c'd it to 833 the second I got it. Can't have a 666 clock running in your computer ya know. :)
Originally posted by silence
nope..current mobos won't be able to run prescott.....power issue->something with either diff power requirements or heat issues, i read about it, but that's all i know.....
power reqs, heat issues... I'm sure they're all valid but it doesn't sound like something that would stop rebel mobo manufacturers in their tracks. If they have to balls to pull off this whole springdale/PAT thing, surely they'll find a way to support new power requirements unofficially? Unless it's some radical change I'm not imagining....
silence
08-11-03, 05:06 AM
i am not that much into intel so i don't know...i think that mobo makers were told those mobo will run prescotts, but due to heat/power issues intel changed something (don't ask what), so now those already made mobos can't run them....
sorry for not making this to clear....that's all i know......:)
AngelGraves13
08-12-03, 07:05 PM
is it worth me getting one? no! Maybe when the 4 or 5 Ghz ones are out.
AngelGraves13
08-12-03, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
Besides Intel has not said they will work with current boards, only the manufatures have. Intel has been hush hush which is worrying to say the least!!
my board manual said it's compatible, but that was before intel said it might not be, so I don't know anymore.
silence
08-13-03, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by 99 to Life
my board manual said it's compatible, but that was before intel said it might not be, so I don't know anymore.
check your manufacturer's site, but i am willing to bet they won't work at all. as i said prescott's need different power/voltage/...something and that's why current boards can't work with them....maybe they found workaround for this issue, but from what i read i doubt.....
It seems thats the prescott will be starting as low as 2.8GHz
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030813031820.html
Very worrying to say the last maybe it doesn't scale to well at the moment.
schuey74
08-13-03, 06:05 PM
The Prescotts are actually suppose to launch in Nov./Dec. w/ only 3.2 & 3.4s. The 2.8s & 3.0s would be coming in Q1 and it should actually be good news as they'll probably overclock to 3.4+ and cost much much less.
reever2
08-13-03, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Dazz
It seems thats the prescott will be starting as low as 2.8GHz
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030813031820.html
Very worrying to say the last maybe it doesn't scale to well at the moment.
Huh? Intel does that with most, if not all of its cpus, they will still be releasing a 3.4ghz version and the rest comes out when amd gives the competition, and looking at reports about A64 clockspeeds and roadmaps, they aren't going to be releasing that many clockspeed increases as fast as they and intel have in the past.
Originally posted by 99 to Life
my board manual said it's compatible, but that was before intel said it might not be, so I don't know anymore.
I wouldn't worry too much then. Naturally intel won't have it be "compatible" if they can help it. Actually compatibility and intel's version are two different things.
Geforce4ti4200
08-14-03, 11:36 AM
ive heard of people getting tbreds, even bartons to work in kt266 mobos, although you may need to mod the mobo. likewise, if you mod the bx board, you can get tualatins and .13 micron celerons on those to work. maybe they will find a way to get prescotts to run, most likley
Originally posted by eesa
I wouldn't worry too much then. Naturally intel won't have it be "compatible" if they can help it. Actually compatibility and intel's version are two different things. *Cough* Northwood?
Intel Corporation confirmed today that its current mainboards will not support certain future processors by announcing design changes for its D875PBZ, D865GBF, D865GLC products. The first mainboards from Intel with support for Prescott processor will come next month.
The strangest fact is that Intel seems to had known the possible problems with Prescott support long ago, on the stage of its mainboard product design late last year!
Basically, the changes imply enhancement of the CPU VREG for future processor support. The enhancement involves load line changes for future processors, new (G)MCH VTT support as well as support for dual load lines (needed for 4-phase power that is available on some mainboards). Additionally, Intel will provide new BIOS versions for the new mainboards.
The full list of changes is available in this document at Intel’s web-site. Pay attention to the fact that Intel does not add anything new to the PCB design or layout, but only changes some elements. The PCB layout of Intel’s mainboards was developed in order to provide more current for the processor and support CPUs with enhanced power requirements. The reason why Intel decided not to utilize the design that supports Prescott chips for sure from the beginning remains unclear, but obviously in order to save some $3-$5.
There are hopes that some mainboard makers were not saving a couple of dollars on components and some current mainboards will support Prescott processors for sure
RipItup
08-17-03, 06:18 AM
I don't think there will ever be a 2.8 or 3.0 Ghz Prescott. PCWatch showed a roadmap which indicated several speeds but it also showed a label which said "Prescott & Northwood" and the colour used was a mixture between the two. Hence it is logical to assume the lower speeds are Northwood runouts.
I think the lowest step on the desktop P4 Intel ladder will be 3.4Ghz from Q2/Q3 2004.
Regards
Andy
Spiritwalker
08-17-03, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by RipItup
I don't think there will ever be a 2.8 or 3.0 Ghz Prescott. PCWatch showed a roadmap which indicated several speeds but it also showed a label which said "Prescott & Northwood" and the colour used was a mixture between the two. Hence it is logical to assume the lower speeds are Northwood runouts.
I think the lowest step on the desktop P4 Intel ladder will be 3.4Ghz from Q2/Q3 2004.
Regards
Andy
I think that is all depends on the success of the Athlon64. If it is able to compete with the P4 at 2.8-3.2, then you release the prescott at these speeds to give Intel the leg up.
Intel has done this with all their processors in the past. The P1-P1mmx, the 486dx-486sx etc. It is Intel, expect it.
Geforce4ti4200
08-17-03, 09:06 PM
I think Intel wont release a prescott below 3.2GHz at least not for now
Ninja Prime
08-17-03, 11:25 PM
It seems Intel is having problems with 90nm... according to this. (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11022)
103 watts, I wonder if that's for the 3.4ghz version. If so, it won't be getting too much faster without some serious R&D in the cooling department... Meanwhile the Athlon64 is supposed to launch at 3400+ and have 3700+ out before years end. Intel better fix it quick.
silence
08-18-03, 03:45 PM
i think AMD64 will launch @ 3100+...not sure which chip will be inside, prolly 2 Ghz.
3400+ would prolly mean chip running @ 2.2....which would be very nice if they managed to get their clocks higher....i read some rumors that they managed 2.4 lately....that might be 3700+....
well....let's wait and see......IMO, when they get out, AMD64 will be real bargain, you get Opteron inside @ desktop prices.....:D
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