prescott to be at 3.4GHz

[Geforce4ti4200]

xp3200 is 2GHz

the early a64s are about 10% better than the bartons

[silence]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
the early a64s are about 10% better than the bartons


...those dual channel amd64's that will be launched soon, are nothing else but Opterons and 2.0 Opteron is one really great chip....doing great in bechmarks against Intel flagship.

as for single channel ones..754 pins...i haven't seen anything yet:)

[AthlonXP1800]

Prescott 3.4Ghz (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11092) on 0.09 micron will be very hot chip with 103W power, the bad news it will not overclocking much, it could hit as high as 150W. It may will need dual power supplies like 2x400W to overclock it very well.

[reever2]

Originally posted by AthlonXP1800
[ It may will need dual power supplies like 2x400W to overclock it very well. [/B]

Seriously doubt that...

[simwiz2]

Even with its extra heat, Prescott is likely to be a solid performer. Last I heard a 15-20% per-clock increase was rumored, which if true would put a 3.4 GHz Scotty at about the level of a 4 GHz Northwood! Isn't that worth 103 watts?

[AthlonXP1800]

It no way to know how fast 3.4Ghz Prescott will be compare to P4 but of course the new Prescott's hyperthreating will be faster. Here was none of Prescott sample to benchmarked it how fast it is. Well the original P4 3Ghz was worth near 100 Watts, the current revision use near 82 Watts.

[silence]

Originally posted by simwiz2
Even with its extra heat, Prescott is likely to be a solid performer. Last I heard a 15-20% per-clock increase was rumored, which if true would put a 3.4 GHz Scotty at about the level of a 4 GHz Northwood! Isn't that worth 103 watts?

you have to think about mainstream....average buyers. if you gonna need watercooling for next gen CPUs we might see slowing down of Mhz race. i really can't see watercooling getting into mainstream....2 major obsticles :
1) water itself
2) price

i still think that AMD did great job with it's CPUs, being 1Ghz slower and still perform on same level, so if AMD can make such chips, maybe these kind of problems force Intel into developing chips that do more work per cycle but on lower clock?

103 W is damn much....

[Dazz]

I think the Prescott will be a good overclocker but only for the hardcore enthusiast as they will need no less then water cooling to overclock and it might be possible to have it air cooled but the noise race would be lost to AMD.

[Sotos]

According to INTEL roadmap:

The Prescott will start from 2.8Gz(for cheap sollution) and will stop it's production at 4.00GHZ

After 4.00GHZ a new proccessor is showed in their ROADMAP (the name is JAXZ or JAZZ or something like that)

[Fotis]

IIRC Prescott = 100mil trans and Northwood = 55mil trans.That would explain its huge power consumption.
Anyway in the Prescott vs Athlon64 battle I'm puting my money on the first.

[Dazz]

Originally posted by silence
i think AMD64 will launch @ 3100+...not sure which chip will be inside, prolly 2 Ghz.
3400+ would prolly mean chip running @ 2.2....which would be very nice if they managed to get their clocks higher....i read some rumors that they managed 2.4 lately....that might be 3700+....

well....let's wait and see......IMO, when they get out, AMD64 will be real bargain, you get Opteron inside @ desktop prices.....:D
AMD64 3100+ = 1.8GHz, AMD64 3400+ = 2.0GHz, AMD64 3700+ = 2.2GHz & AMD64 4000+ = 2.4GHz

[reever2]

Originally posted by silence
you have to think about mainstream....average buyers. if you gonna need watercooling for next gen CPUs we might see slowing down of Mhz race. i really can't see watercooling getting into mainstream....2 major obsticles :
1) water itself
2) price

i still think that AMD did great job with it's CPUs, being 1Ghz slower and still perform on same level, so if AMD can make such chips, maybe these kind of problems force Intel into developing chips that do more work per cycle but on lower clock?

103 W is damn much....

I still think the prescott will have no heat problems or loud annoying heatsinks, intel has a much better record for making processors that have more watts yet have better temperatures and cooling solutions than the competition which has not supplied an effecient hsf for thier boxed cpus in ages

[Dazz]

People have said their 3.2GHz P4's have a faily load fan and runs hot.

[Geforce4ti4200]

Originally posted by Dazz
AMD64 3100+ = 1.8GHz, AMD64 3400+ = 2.0GHz, AMD64 3700+ = 2.2GHz & AMD64 4000+ = 2.4GHz


doubt that, I heard:

xp3200+ is 2GHz
xp3400+ is 2.2GHz
xp3700+ is 2.4GHz


amd used to call the xp3400 1.8GHz but they wisened up and
realized their rating scheme was far too generous, itll look bad when the 1.8GHz xp3400 loses on every benchy, but great for them when the 2.2GHz xp3400 wins on more than 2/3 of them so there

[silence]

looks like there will be 2 diff schemes for PR rating of amd64....

one classic...and other closer to current Opteron scheme, with chips named like AMD FX 51.....

[Dazz]

The Athlon FX 51 = rebranded Opteron 146 aka 2GHz chip.
A person i know all ready has the XP3100+ w/ ASUS K8V (VIA :)
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2003/archives/aug/axp3100cpuz.jpg

Oh yeah forgot to say, the hammer CPU can only be clock at 1.2GHz and higher which MUST run 200MHz faster each time, otherwise the CPU will be underclocked, so 1.8GHz = 200MHz FSB (800), 1.9GHz = 183MHz FSB (732). Thats why you only see the Opterons run at 1.4,1.6,1.8,2.0GHz