prescott to be at 3.4GHz

[Geforce4ti4200]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8027

http://www.hwextreme.com/articles/prescott/

1.2v 3.2GHz or 3.4GHz at debut, 800fsb, improved hyperthread, PNI, 1mb cache wow this sounds sweet. ah did I mention 90nm?

If 130nm northwood 2.8c's at 1.5v are doing 3.5GHz at 1.7v average, imagine what a 3.4 prescott pentium5 will do, I am guessing 4.25GHz wouldnt be too much trouble at perhaps 1.35 volts even for the first steppings, the later steppings may oc to 5GHz and past :p wow this is looking sweet for Intel, the prescotts are rumored to be equal to the tbreds MHz per MHz. If a 2.8c matches a 2.2GHz tbred at 200fsb, a 3.4GHz prescott could match a 3.4GHz tbred at 200fsb, assuming one was clocked this high somehow. This is where amd will really need to get the hammer to shine and amd better get those to 2.5GHz at least! as for xp3400, rumors point out amd is getting way generous with their rating and in fact a 3.0c eats that in some benchmarks! amd cant keep getting away with such low clock speeds despite a higher IC or something. also expect to see people start breaking 30k marks :angel:

[Dazz]

It's said there will be 3.2 & 3.4GHz processors out you can't have the 1 otherwise it would be very expensive for most people and won't sell all to well.

[Geforce4ti4200]

why is it sad? people who cant afford the 3.4GHz prescott can always get a northwood for much less instead

[Dazz]

Yeah but Intel want to get as much money back as possible for the R&D used, and also what more processors in the line up to promote their new chips.

[SHS`]

Intel's top end consumer processor is always released at the same price point as the previous top end one... and price cuts down the line.

~£600 for trays of 1k... with the nly one that "stuck out" being the oooold 1.5GHz Willamette which was >£800.

[Geforce4ti4200]

it does make sense to release a 3.2GHz prescott, Intel had 450MHz p3 when their fastest p2 was 450. then they had 1.3GHz p4. its no guarantee but a good idea to release some lower clocked prescotts in order to sell more. If only 3.4GHz then people will just wait till the price drops. Intel actually should release em as low as 3GHz

[Dazz]

Finally, somebody gets it :)

[Carbon Unit]

Im sure the Prescott will cost around $700, and I will more than likely not be buying one at that price, but I have heard rumors that it won't work with the i865/i875:confused:

[reever2]

Originally posted by Carbon Unit
Im sure the Prescott will cost around $700, and I will more than likely not be buying one at that price, but I have heard rumors that it won't work with the i865/i875:confused:

All of Intel and Amd's new processors cost that much on debut, and all of them get cut down to size to about 300-500 bucks in a mere matter of days

[Dazz]

Yeah but that NEVER happens to Intel.

[reever2]

Originally posted by Dazz
Yeah but that NEVER happens to Intel.


Umm yes it does, it happens more readily on Intel. Remember their 3.06ghz? That thing got 670 on debut, a couple days later it went down to 500, then 400, now it costs 380 bucks...

[Dazz]

Not here it doesn't, 3.06GHz huh thats a pretty old CPU now considering there has been the C range then their bump to 3.2GHz.

[MasterBaiter]

The issue with Springdale and Canterwood chipsets seems to be one of power regulation and should be fixed with a few revisions. Some Canterwood and Springdale chipset motherboards may not need any mods. I think the Gigabyte ones may not have a problem, but you may need to upgrade the power system card if you have a Gigabyte mobo that supports this. Apparently the new Abit IC7 Max-3 Canterwood supports the Prescott chipset... I would like to think that there will be a compatability chart at some point so we can all see what will and won't work. :)

[B&R]

hey i thought they were goin to release 3.6Ghz first.

[Dazz]

Nope thats a little later.

[B&R]

Originally posted by Dazz
Nope thats a little later.

so the lowest is gonna be 3.2Ghz??

[Dazz]

Yeah 3.2 and 3.4GHz there may very well be a 3GHz.

[silence]

what about heat? looks like prescotts are taking around 100W, that's prolly one damn hot CPU....i know i wouldn't like something that needs so much power and produces prolly large ammount of heat in my comp. water cooling might be only way to get system temp to normal levels if Intel doesn't manage to lower this....

big battle prescott <> amd64 might be resolved over heat issues....if amd can get their chips to work with acceptable power requirements and keep their temp at levels of current Athlons i see really big edge for amd here.....

[Dazz]

Yeap Intel is conserned about the heat output of the 3.6GHz Prescott of 100w and that Intel are thinking of bringing watercooling to the mainstream.

[silence]

i just don't see how will they explain to ppl that they need to put water near their very expansive components....watercooling is still pretty much connected with OCing and enthusiasts....

can u imagine explaining that water needs to go into computer to people that barely understand where floppy needs to go??

"you need water there"
"where?"
"well...inside your computer.."
"what do you mean?why would i want water that can damage it?"
"well....water will cool your CPU and you need that"
"but what if that leaks?"
"it won't leak....."
"ya,but if it leaks?"
"there is really small chance it will leak....."
"but if it leaks?"

and so on and on.......i really wouldn't like to be person that will be pushing watercooling systems to average people.......
AMD might have best chance so far to grab much more Intel's market share then ever before if Intel can't lower that power requirements........

[Dazz]

It's not just for peoples computer but mostly for 1U servers where there is little space and can you imagine the heat from a 100w CPU in a inch space with other hot components :eek:

[Geforce4ti4200]

LMAO on the watercooling idea, alot of people would go amd because of this. watercooling is expensive and bulky and people fear a leak, if Intel has to resort to water, two things are obvious: it wont overclock much, if at all and amd will gain over 50% market share

[Dazz]

Watercooling prices have came right down, it's either water cool or Electric thermal Cooling. BUt last i heard Electric thermal Cooling can easily be overpowered but 100watts of heat.

[simwiz2]

and amd will gain over 50% market share

I doubt it. Worst case scenario is that Prescott is delayed or limited to high-end only for 6 months or so until Intel reduces the heat, and meanwhile Northwood is sold for the mainstream and possibly high-end market. Since in all likelihood Northwood will be more than a match for A64, how is AMD going to suddenly gain a whole bunch of market share?

[silence]

Originally posted by Dazz
It's not just for peoples computer but mostly for 1U servers where there is little space and can you imagine the heat from a 100w CPU in a inch space with other hot components :eek:


can u imagine them selling server with 5,10,20 or more 1U racks filled with water?

just imagine saying to some CEO..."you need 64 new servers, but there is little catch, they are filled with water"......

each 1U with it's own pump and tubes...that's nightmare....



that's exactly how will AMD gain market share......their CPU run much slower with performance close enough and don't require watercooling.....