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Gitaroo
08-13-10, 06:33 PM
I'm thinking of building a new pc around 1000 (CAD) without video card (planning to use my current 460), I will be using it for Autocad, photoshop, 3d rendering and lots of gaming. And Im planning on getting every parts from my local store, not online

http://www.memoryexpress.com/

I probably won't be doing any overclocking nor SLi, so I am kind of stuck between the

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache

and

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 870 2.93GHz w/ 8MB Cache

the 930 actually cost less, but they dont have cheap motherboard (with USB 3 and Sata 3) to combo with it, but I heard the i9 use the same socket as the 930, which make it more future proof for i9 upgrade when its cheaper and a lot of apps start using the 6 cores......Any suggestion?

bob saget
08-13-10, 06:55 PM
If you are not going to be doing any overclocking or using SLi, why not get a 6 core AMD processor or a quad core one. It will be cheaper I believe.
As for the 930, it is a great CPU, but it really shines once overclocked, and it is VERY easy to overclock it. Most x58 motherboards are very forgiving.
Also, check out NCIX Canada. It's a good Canadian based company.

Bearclaw
08-13-10, 07:12 PM
Go for the 930.

1) 930 is socket 1336 and future proof. i7 870 is socket 1156 and already dead - No upgrade path.

2) Don't even worry about USB 3 or SATA 3 right now. They're not fully utilized yet. Waste of money, IMO.

Madpistol
08-13-10, 07:59 PM
I'm with bob saget on the AMD 6-core processors. They are most excellent for AutoCAD and other multi-threaded applications, and they are relatively cheap compared to their intel counterparts, especially when you factor in the cost of the platform.

Gitaroo
08-14-10, 01:06 PM
how does a AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 6 Core Processor 3.2GHZ Socket AM3 compare to 930? I saw a review on bit tech, it barely even come close to the 930 overclocked or not, and it cost more at NCIX. I prefer buying parts from a local store, so if anything happen (defected parts etc), I can return easier.

Gitaroo
08-14-10, 02:13 PM
right now I'm looking at this

-Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
-Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache
-Corsair 6GB XMS3-1600 PC3-12800 Core™ i7 Triple Channel DDR3 Kit (3 x 2GB) w/ Intel XMP

the mobo is expensive, but the cheapest 1336 mobo at the store only cost 20 less and no USB 3, so I might as well get the one with USB 3. I should specify, I use it for 50% gaming, 50% CAD, photoshop, rendering etc.

bob saget
08-14-10, 03:31 PM
very popular motherboard, that is.

Bearclaw
08-14-10, 09:05 PM
bob is a very popular canadian

bob saget
08-14-10, 10:47 PM
bob is a very popular canadian

*salute*

wheeljack12
08-16-10, 11:13 AM
I'm thinking of building a new pc around 1000 (CAD) without video card (planning to use my current 460), I will be using it for Autocad, photoshop, 3d rendering and lots of gaming. And Im planning on getting every parts from my local store, not online

http://www.memoryexpress.com/

I probably won't be doing any overclocking nor SLi, so I am kind of stuck between the

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache

and

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 870 2.93GHz w/ 8MB Cache

the 930 actually cost less, but they dont have cheap motherboard (with USB 3 and Sata 3) to combo with it, but I heard the i9 use the same socket as the 930, which make it more future proof for i9 upgrade when its cheaper and a lot of apps start using the 6 cores......Any suggestion?

your close to a memory express, what is the store like? I bought my 1st two gtx 480's from them. Best price in Canada at the time.

darkrider01
08-16-10, 01:52 PM
right now I'm looking at this

-Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
-Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache
-Corsair 6GB XMS3-1600 PC3-12800 Core™ i7 Triple Channel DDR3 Kit (3 x 2GB) w/ Intel XMP

the mobo is expensive, but the cheapest 1336 mobo at the store only cost 20 less and no USB 3, so I might as well get the one with USB 3. I should specify, I use it for 50% gaming, 50% CAD, photoshop, rendering etc.

That setup is working like a champ for me. I personally would stay away from Corsair RAM (I went through 3 sets of Corsair PC3-12800 CL7 RAM when I first built mine), but YMMV. Since I switched over to the G.Skill RAM, I am in heaven.

I use mine for gaming and photoshop, so you will probably be fine there. I use AutoCAD on my laptop, but I'm sure that the 930 would be awesome there as well.

If I had waited a couple of weeks though, I probably would have opted for a 6 core AMD processor myself. I can't speak for the 6 core AMD's, but my experience with the i7 930 has been excellent.

Kain
08-16-10, 05:08 PM
Go for the 930.

1) 930 is socket 1336 and future proof. i7 870 is socket 1156 and already dead - No upgrade path.

2) Don't even worry about USB 3 or SATA 3 right now. They're not fully utilized yet. Waste of money, IMO. Socket 1156 is dead? Are you saying the new processors that Intel is going to release soon won't support this socket? I know that the top-end Core i7 processors are socket 1336 and the "lower-end" are 1156. Also, the current Core i5 processors are 1156 but even the upcoming Core i5 processors won't support 1156?

Bearclaw
08-17-10, 12:19 AM
Socket 1156 is dead? Are you saying the new processors that Intel is going to release soon won't support this socket? I know that the top-end Core i7 processors are socket 1336 and the "lower-end" are 1156. Also, the current Core i5 processors are 1156 but even the upcoming Core i5 processors won't support 1156?

Well, both are dying, so to speak.

Socket 1156 and 1366 will be replaced by the Sandybridge sockets 1155 and 2011.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/21/intel-sandy-bridge-details-of-the-next-gen/1

Sazar
08-17-10, 01:27 AM
Well, both are dying, so to speak.



http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/21/intel-sandy-bridge-details-of-the-next-gen/1

Dang the enthusiast board (2011) is looking really cool :) next upgrade early next year I reckon :)

Gitaroo
08-17-10, 05:38 AM
your close to a memory express, what is the store like? I bought my 1st two gtx 480's from them. Best price in Canada at the time.

kind of like a half retail half warehouse.

Gitaroo
08-17-10, 09:05 PM
just a quick question, the power supply that I got doesn't have a ATX 12V 8 pins but it has a 2 X 4 pins that look like these

http://i39.tinypic.com/212a9p3.jpg

and it says P2, are they the same as the 8 pin just splitted up?

Madpistol
08-17-10, 10:51 PM
just a quick question, the power supply that I got doesn't have a ATX 12V 8 pins but it has a 2 X 4 pins that look like these

http://i39.tinypic.com/212a9p3.jpg

and it says P2, are they the same as the 8 pin just splitted up?

Yes. it is the same.

Bearclaw
08-17-10, 11:27 PM
Dang the enthusiast board (2011) is looking really cool :) next upgrade early next year I reckon :)

Definitely looks cool. :thumbsup:

ragejg
08-17-10, 11:30 PM
Looking cool in terms of features, or the look? Are upcoming motherboards going to look like half-transformed transformers or something?