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ragejg
10-26-10, 10:26 PM
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939A790GMH

wut?

Roadhog
10-26-10, 10:48 PM
?

Starscream
10-26-10, 11:28 PM
Asrock makes all kinds of oddball products to fill odd niches. I'm GLAD to see such a product, a lot of 939 boards are total crap and I see tons of dead ones these days in my shop.

Treason
10-27-10, 11:21 PM
I got an Opteron 185 complete system sitting in my closet unused for three straight years, gathering dust and resale value.

I'm guessing that integrated ATi 3300 will blow away my "support nVidia during it's darkest days" GeForce FX 5600 ULTRA or my GeForce 7800 GT.

Hopefully this motherboard will be available in North America by December.

Madpistol
10-27-10, 11:34 PM
Wow... Socket 939 is long dead. I hope they don't expect to make money off of this niche product.


EDIT: LOL @ HDMI on a skt 939 board! :rofl

Redeemed
10-27-10, 11:43 PM
Wow... Socket 939 is long dead. I hope they don't expect to make money off of this niche product.


EDIT: LOL @ HDMI on a skt 939 board! :rofl

Well, it'd make a decent enough media server.

Couldn't do any HD encoding but it'd distribute the files perfectly fine. And it'll be able to play back anything. On a budget, using some of your own spare parts- it's not a bad offering.

Shamrock
10-28-10, 09:43 PM
I'll never own another AScrock. They refused to warranty a mobo of my sister's (which I assembled) because I didn't use "approved" ram, even though specs matched. The Mobo was DOA. I had to jump through hoops with Newegg, too.

t3hl33td4rg0n
10-28-10, 11:48 PM
I got an Opteron 185 complete system sitting in my closet unused for three straight years, gathering dust and resale value.

I'm guessing that integrated ATi 3300 will blow away my "support nVidia during it's darkest days" GeForce FX 5600 ULTRA or my GeForce 7800 GT.

Hopefully this motherboard will be available in North America by December.

How much you want for that Opteron 185? :D

ragejg
10-28-10, 11:51 PM
I got an Opteron 185 complete system sitting in my closet unused for three straight years, gathering dust and resale value.

I'm guessing that integrated ATi 3300 will blow away my "support nVidia during it's darkest days" GeForce FX 5600 ULTRA or my GeForce 7800 GT.

Hopefully this motherboard will be available in North America by December.

ATI 3300 would likely perform something like a 7600GS/GT (as HD 3850 is about 1.5x 7800 performance).

Treason
10-29-10, 06:19 AM
How much you want for that Opteron 185? :D

I'm not parting it out yet hehe. I am semi-serious about buying this motherboard, although initial research isn't providing any positive results. Looks like it can be only bought through a special order "mass order" or in local stores in individual countries if "they feel like it".

Oh another thing is that this motherboard is pricier than I expected (1 available on ebay).

ragejg
10-29-10, 06:31 AM
I'm not parting it out yet hehe. I am semi-serious about buying this motherboard, although initial research isn't providing any positive results. Looks like it can be only bought through a special order "mass order" or in local stores in individual countries if "they feel like it".

Oh another thing is that this motherboard is pricier than I expected (1 available on ebay).

Maybe just get an A8V Deluxe @ [H] or something. I built 2 939 rigs at the same time with them back in spring 2008 and both worked perfect with 3gb DDR, x2 3800/4800/Opty 165 CPUs and HD 3850 AGPs. I upgraded one to an AM2+ rig in July 09 and the other to AM2+ in January '10... and sold both motherboards for ~$45 a piece.

Yaboze
10-29-10, 08:24 AM
I'm glad they put this out, lol.

I have a AMD X2 4600+ dual core 939 in a Asus A8N-SLI. Nforce 4 chipset. Need I say more? It will do SLI but only 8x, single card is 16x. Later boards were labeled 32 and did 16x with SLI.

It's not a great board. This system is running games pretty well. It has a 8800 GTX, Windows XP SP3, 2GB of ram and a PCI Audigy 2zs. It's very snappy, boots up quick and runs well.

If the MB ever dies, I would never get another Nvidia board, but I'd get this MB. :)

I still love AMD, but my bad experiences with this very config made me go back to Intel. I will say now the board is running great, but early on, a combination of bad Nvidia chipset drivers and poor bios updates made my life hell for a while.

t3hl33td4rg0n
10-30-10, 04:16 AM
I'm not parting it out yet hehe. I am semi-serious about buying this motherboard, although initial research isn't providing any positive results. Looks like it can be only bought through a special order "mass order" or in local stores in individual countries if "they feel like it".

Oh another thing is that this motherboard is pricier than I expected (1 available on ebay).

Nah, dont bother with the board.. Just sell me the CPU and we all win! :captnkill:

ViN86
10-30-10, 04:29 PM
Wow... Socket 939 is long dead. I hope they don't expect to make money off of this niche product.


EDIT: LOL @ HDMI on a skt 939 board! :rofl

?

Not everyone buys computers for games. With a HDMI support and some old parts laying around, this board would be greater for an HTPC.

Treason
11-01-10, 10:32 PM
This topic is generating some interest:

http://forums.ncix.com/forums/?mode=showthread&forum=194&threadid=2258100&pagenumber=1&msgcount=6&subpage=1

(xmastree)

NCoastTweaker
11-20-10, 02:49 PM
I just got one of these 939A790GMH boards dropped off a few days ago. I plan on dropping a 4800+ toledo dual core and an HD5850 and a Soundblaster X-FI Elite sound card in it and loading Win 7 pro 64 bit... (I have a stock amd HSF w/4 heat pipes and a copy of Win 7 en route)

I'm tempted to buy the AM2/AM2+/AM3 version of this board and do a side by side comparison with the hd5850 to see how much diff there is between the 939/ddr vs AM2/ddr2...

Would make for some entertaining reading don't you think? I wish the pro reviewers would bench this board...

ragejg
11-20-10, 05:00 PM
I just got one of these 939A790GMH boards dropped off a few days ago. I plan on dropping a 4800+ toledo dual core and an HD5850 and a Soundblaster X-FI Elite sound card in it and loading Win 7 pro 64 bit... (I have a stock amd HSF w/4 heat pipes and a copy of Win 7 en route)

I'm tempted to buy the AM2/AM2+/AM3 version of this board and do a side by side comparison with the hd5850 to see how much diff there is between the 939/ddr vs AM2/ddr2...

Would make for some entertaining reading don't you think? I wish the pro reviewers would bench this board...

Anything stronger than an HD 3870 will be severely limited by a 939 board, even when it's moderately overclocked. ... So your 5850 is basically going to perform at barely over half its capability.

NCoastTweaker
11-21-10, 08:40 AM
Anything stronger than an HD 3870 will be severely limited by a 939 board, even when it's moderately overclocked. ... So your 5850 is basically going to perform at barely over half its capability.

I have the HD5850 and 4800+ currently installed in an MSI K8N-Neo4H mobo.. its PCI-E vid slot is ver 1.0a (250mhz per lane) The Asrock 939 board has a PCI-E ver 2.0 (500mhz per lane) so I'm hoping to see some kind of performance bump.. When I run Unigine Haven I do not see the cpu max out much over 50-60%.. so I'm thinking the NF4 board PCI-E slot is the biggest bottleneck. Plus with the new 790gx / SB750 chipsets I will be able to run the newer AMD overdrive software to OC the cpu... with the win 7 64 bit os. (the nf4 is too old to support the amd overclocking software...) I want the UVD features for HTPC... I was looking at the HD6850 amd cards...they are supposed to be a bit less powerful than the HD5850... maybe that would be a better fit for the old 939 cpu and DDR memory..

With the Haven demo I ran it using dx9 (60+ fps) dx10(40fps) and dx11(30fps) on a 1280 x 1024 res monitor. When I used a higher res of 1680 x 1050 the scores dropped down into the low 20's for dx9 and dx11... and stayed above the 30's for dx10.. (see attachments)

My main purpose for this rig is HTPC with mild gaming ability. Which video card in the 5xxx amd series can I use on this board that will not waste its potential... 5770 ? 5670? 5830? 6850?

NCoastTweaker
11-21-10, 10:30 AM
Well, it'd make a decent enough media server.

Couldn't do any HD encoding but it'd distribute the files perfectly fine. And it'll be able to play back anything. On a budget, using some of your own spare parts- it's not a bad offering.

I was reading the reviews of the AMD HD68xx cards where they talk about enhanced hardware acceleration for video encode / transcode functions... using the shaders in the graphics cards instead of CPU... if this is true, then an underpowered skt939 cpu / ddr mem should not be an issue... prob is that I have not seen anyone putup any benchmarks demonstrating this feature... right now my 4800+ toledo cpu gets spanked when I'm converting H.264 (.ts) container files to MPEG2 or AVI... takes approx 1 hour for every 5 min of video...to convert it... (using no hardware acceleration)

d2thez
11-22-10, 11:14 AM
NCOAST TWEAKER, where were you able to get one of these boards? Are you in the states?

NCoastTweaker
12-15-10, 05:32 PM
I do live in the United States.. I was able to order the 939A790GMH from ITBANKeurope.com
http://www.itbankeurope.com/939A790GMH_/

I paid way too much for it though... (a classic case of unbridaled 939 LUST)

It was 71 Euro's plus 20.. approx $130 USD.. or double what its really worth...

I still havent had a chance to fire it up yet... just got in the FX-60, and an HD 6870...
and some Ballistic PC4000 ddr mem... hopefully I'll git it running in the next week or two.

I wish someone who has one of these would post some info about how it runs... etc..

NCoastTweaker
12-15-10, 05:40 PM
Anything stronger than an HD 3870 will be severely limited by a 939 board, even when it's moderately overclocked. ... So your 5850 is basically going to perform at barely over half its capability.

I took the 5850 and tried it out in a friends pc... AMD QUAD CORD 3.4 ghz with DDR3 mem..
The Unigine benchmarks were no faster than on my dual core system. I did some comparisons on my scores.. so tell me man... where is this bottleneck your talking about?
I don't see it... I believe that the 5850 may be slightly contrained but I would think it has
more to do with the DDR memory bandwidth as opposed to CPU... Anything over 2.5 ghz (dual core) seems to be fast enough cpu wise for this entry level HD5850 version..

My unigine scores hold up quite well against quad core amd platforms with the same card.

Bman212121
12-15-10, 09:32 PM
Something like that might not show a difference if it's really GPU limited. I think if you played a more CPU demanding game like World in Conflict, Farcry 2, GTA IV, Test Drive Unlimited, World of Warcraft, etc you'd notice a difference.

I was reading the reviews of the AMD HD68xx cards where they talk about enhanced hardware acceleration for video encode / transcode functions... using the shaders in the graphics cards instead of CPU... if this is true, then an underpowered skt939 cpu / ddr mem should not be an issue... prob is that I have not seen anyone putup any benchmarks demonstrating this feature... right now my 4800+ toledo cpu gets spanked when I'm converting H.264 (.ts) container files to MPEG2 or AVI... takes approx 1 hour for every 5 min of video...to convert it... (using no hardware acceleration)

Yea I'm currently unaware of anything for the encoding side. There is supposed to be some type of drag / drop encoding feature for the 5 series I think, but I've never attempted to use it. For decoding though it will make a big difference. The 4800+ x2 likely struggles with 1080p H.264 material. GPU acceleration will bring those numbers down significantly.

EDIT:

Here it is. It is for encoding files to be used for portable media devices.

http://i55.tinypic.com/nv30nq.jpg

Treason
12-30-10, 07:44 PM
I know there's half a dozen members here who must still be interested in using their old socket 939's. I found an e-retailer on ebay who is selling these motherboards, but it's the older but better 939A785GMH/128M (HD 4200 instead and with 128 MB sideport memory). Like the 939A790GMH, it is aimed at the European market.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939A785GMH/128M

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Carte-mere-939A785GMH-128M-4DR1-GL-CROSSFIRE-5S2-RAID-/130392085543?pt=FR_GH_Informatique_Composants_Cart es_M%C3%A8res&hash=item1e5bf95427

Pricey, but I fear this may be the last we hear of socket 939.

Redeemed
12-30-10, 10:10 PM
I know there's half a dozen members here who must still be interested in using their old socket 939's. I found an e-retailer on ebay who is selling these motherboards, but it's the older but better 939A785GMH/128M (HD 4200 instead and with 128 MB sideport memory). Like the 939A790GMH, it is aimed at the European market.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939A785GMH/128M

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Carte-mere-939A785GMH-128M-4DR1-GL-CROSSFIRE-5S2-RAID-/130392085543?pt=FR_GH_Informatique_Composants_Cart es_M%C3%A8res&hash=item1e5bf95427

Pricey, but I fear this may be the last we hear of socket 939.

Honestly not worth it imo.

I mean, considering the performance you can get for comparable prices...

Well, I guess if you have all the parts and just need a mobo it's worth it. Otherwise, a new build from the ground up offers more for your dollar.

All imo, of course. :)