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technoid
10-29-10, 02:31 PM
I want to buy a new widescreen monitor but I'd like to get it at Best Buy or a local store so I can return it if it's not what I want. I keep hearing about what people don't like about their monitors so I want the option of returning it, so a local store is my only real option. With that said I want a monitor with good color, good contrast, good backlight uniformity, and good sharpness. So I don't think I'm asking too much of it, but I don't want something I feel like I must keep because I saved some money ordering it on-line. With that said I'm looking at an ASUS 24" at Best Buy model VE245H for $250. They have an AOC too but I don't know anything about them and the overall picture looked better on the ASUS. So I'm looking for any information you can share with me to help me make up my mind. Here's a link to the ASUS VE245H at Best Buy. A 24" is the best size for me, the 23" is more popular but it's just a tad small for my taste.

ASUS 24" VE245H (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+24%22+Widescreen+Flat-Panel+TFT-LCD+Monitor+-+Black/9704656.p?id=1218154377047&skuId=9704656)

Maverick123w
10-29-10, 02:45 PM
You get what you pay for. It's a TN panel so it won't have the best color reproduction or viewing angles but if you're using it for gaming it will be great.

I've liked the Asus monitors I've seen. They have the bang for your buck down pretty good. That seems a bit pricey for a 1920x1080 res monitor at that size though.

Maverick123w
10-29-10, 03:48 PM
TN Panel = big no go, even for gaming!

And then you will have these guys who crap on your decision to go with a TN panel because you don't have $1000 to blow on an overpriced led display with a single output.

Maverick123w
10-29-10, 03:53 PM
Displays have inputs, not outputs ;)
But you're right, it is a drawback. The lack of more inputs is the reason why I'm going with HP instead of Apple for my winter upgrade ;)

Very true but Apple products can do anything so I decided to play it safe :p

Maverick123w
10-29-10, 03:54 PM
TN Panel = big no go, even for gaming!

But seriously, look at his rig and tell me he needs an IPS panel that will cost more than his rig is worth.

betterdan
10-29-10, 08:04 PM
I've got an Asus 24 inch monitor and I love it. To me viewing angle is no concern with a computer monitor, I sit right in front of the damn thing. :lol:
Everything else looks great to me. Now when it comes to watching tv or movies on my HDTV set I'm a lot more picky but then again it's 52 inches so things are a lot more noticeable.

Madpistol
10-29-10, 08:13 PM
I've got an Asus 24 inch monitor and I love it. To me viewing angle is no concern with a computer monitor, I sit right in front of the damn thing. :lol:


QFT!

I also have an 24" Asus monitor (1920x1200) and I have yet to buy another monitor (including an LED backlit one) that has a better color gamut that doesn't cost 4 times as much. Asus makes great monitors for gamers.

bob saget
10-29-10, 08:58 PM
i spent i think $3XX for my dell ips one. viewing angle is good. but the bastard gets so hot.

Madpistol
10-29-10, 09:05 PM
i spent i think $3XX for my dell ips one. viewing angle is good. but the bastard gets so hot.

http://www.google.com/search?q=dell+u2410&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=xwf&sa=G&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=ivsfd&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=G2_LTJK1LsK88gbZnpzrAQ&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEEQrQQwAw

How did you manage that one? That thing is a $600 monitor!

bob saget
10-29-10, 09:42 PM
http://www.google.com/search?q=dell+u2410&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=xwf&sa=G&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=ivsfd&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=G2_LTJK1LsK88gbZnpzrAQ&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEEQrQQwAw

How did you manage that one? That thing is a $600 monitor!

it was a sale. correction, it was closer to 400, 390 or something. and the usual price was 7 or 8 hundred.
my face is 1.5-2 feet away from the monitor, and I can still feel the heat coming off of it, even with a wide open window right beside me.

Madpistol
10-29-10, 11:51 PM
it was a sale. correction, it was closer to 400, 390 or something. and the usual price was 7 or 8 hundred.
my face is 1.5-2 feet away from the monitor, and I can still feel the heat coming off of it, even with a wide open window right beside me.

That's pretty crazy. Both of my 24" monitors get warm, but they're not burning up. My fiance's LED backlit monitor gives off almost no heat at all. I just touched the back and front of her LED monitor... No heat at all. It's crazy how cool those things are.

Not to mention her LED monitor is only 1.5cm thick on the bezel. The only thing that could possibly be more awesome would be an AMOLED TV by Samsung. Those things are about as close to perfect as you can get.

betterdan
10-30-10, 12:27 AM
My monitor is warm but definately not hot.

Bob you are 1.5 to 2 feet away from your screen? wtf do you need good viewing angles for? :lol: And what the hell are you doing that close anyways? Trying to see if you can smell the porn you are watching?


Edit: Oh nevermind, I am sitting exactly 2 feet away from mine right now. I guess it just sounded a lot closer than it really is. Oh and I can smell the porn too. It's just too bad it's involving a donkey right now. :bleh:

Roadhog
10-30-10, 12:43 AM
it was a sale. correction, it was closer to 400, 390 or something. and the usual price was 7 or 8 hundred.
my face is 1.5-2 feet away from the monitor, and I can still feel the heat coming off of it, even with a wide open window right beside me.

I think your monitor is broken or your face is really sensitive. I am about 2-3ft away from my Dell U2711 and i can't feel any heat.

betterdan
10-30-10, 01:41 AM
If you've ever seen pics of Bob you would know it's his face that is broken.
It still heats me up though and gets me sensitive. :o And man, what a viewing angle.

bob saget
10-30-10, 03:24 AM
My monitor is warm but definately not hot.

Bob you are 1.5 to 2 feet away from your screen? wtf do you need good viewing angles for? :lol: And what the hell are you doing that close anyways? Trying to see if you can smell the porn you are watching?


Edit: Oh nevermind, I am sitting exactly 2 feet away from mine right now. I guess it just sounded a lot closer than it really is. Oh and I can smell the porn too. It's just too bad it's involving a donkey right now. :bleh:

:rofl :rofl it sometimes works :bleh:

bob saget
10-30-10, 03:25 AM
I think your monitor is broken or your face is really sensitive. I am about 2-3ft away from my Dell U2711 and i can't feel any heat.

The window is directly behind it, and even though it's blowing in quite cool breeze, maybe it's also blowing some heat my way.

technoid
10-30-10, 07:05 AM
Thanks guys for your input on the monitor and general information. An IPS panel sounds cool but of course being retired money is a big issue. I'm still using a 19" CRT monitor right now, an NEC FE991SB and viewing angle is important since I'll be giving up a lot of it to an LCD.

I really like the idea of an LED LCD being so cool but I worry about the edge lit issue I've read about where you see light bleeding from the edges on dark scenes, any comments on that?

betterdan
10-30-10, 08:01 AM
Unless you are super sensitive to warmth I wouldn't worry about heat from an LCD monitor. I used to have a 19inch NEC monitor and it put out a lot more heat than this LCD and it never bothered me either.

Maverick123w
10-30-10, 11:47 AM
LED alone doesn't mean that there is no backlight bleed. Even displays with LED backlighting can suffer from that.

btw, if you're going with a TN panel. Get at least a 120Hz panel. That's the only advantage TN panels have.

Besides price and next to no ghosting of course

technoid
10-30-10, 12:12 PM
Unless you are super sensitive to warmth I wouldn't worry about heat from an LCD monitor. I used to have a 19inch NEC monitor and it put out a lot more heat than this LCD and it never bothered me either.

Thanks. That's what I thought too, that my CRT monitor would put out a lot more heat than a 24" LCD.

technoid
10-30-10, 12:17 PM
LED alone doesn't mean that there is no backlight bleed. Even displays with LED backlighting can suffer from that.

btw, if you're going with a TN panel. Get at least a 120Hz panel. That's the only advantage TN panels have.

I was under the impression that a LED Edge Lit monitor has a bigger problem with the flashlight effect in dark scenes or when you're watching a movie with bars on the top and bottom. I've read that the edge lit monitors show an effect from the edges that you can see. Anyone with an edge lit monitor with experience with this?