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Shocky
11-23-10, 02:43 PM
For some reason games are randomly minimizing, even when using a 360 controller so it's nothing to do with the keyboard. I've tried re-reinstalling the driver but it's still doing it.

Have any GTX580 users noticed this? to say it's annoying is an understatement. :headexplode:

Also unrelated F1 2010 is crashing with new DX11 patch. :thumbdwn:

v3rninater
11-23-10, 03:27 PM
Nope, nothing bad here, did you update to the most recent drivers? 263.09?

Shocky
11-23-10, 05:08 PM
Nope, nothing bad here, did you update to the most recent drivers? 263.09?

Nope, didnt know there were newer drivers available.

Will try them, if it doesnt fix it though my HD5870 is going back in.

-=DVS=-
11-24-10, 08:32 PM
Something is stealing focus in background , close all none essential programs. Worst case reinstall windows :p
I remember i had same problem years ago , don't remember what was causing it , but i fixed it by uninstalling some programs.

Shocky
11-25-10, 05:46 PM
Something is stealing focus in background , close all none essential programs. Worst case reinstall windows :p
I remember i had same problem years ago , don't remember what was causing it , but i fixed it by uninstalling some programs.

I don't have anything running in the background that wasnt there before I installed the card, this only started after I installed the GTX580.

I'm not reinstalling windows, if putting my HD5870 back in solves this then the cards going back but I don't want to give up on it quite yet.

Any other suggestions?

-=DVS=-
11-25-10, 07:52 PM
Are you sure nothing changed since you replaced cards ? any windows updates ? drivers properly installed no left overs ?

Ghost girl
11-26-10, 02:21 AM
I've experienced the complete opposite. I lose focus with my 5870 all the time, but never with my GTX580. I'd suggest cleaning out drivers + nvidia clean install

Shocky
11-26-10, 01:42 PM
Are you sure nothing changed since you replaced cards ? any windows updates ? drivers properly installed no left overs ?

Very sure, nothing else has been installed since.

I've experienced the complete opposite. I lose focus with my 5870 all the time, but never with my GTX580. I'd suggest cleaning out drivers + nvidia clean install

I've already run driver cleaner, against my better judgment however it's still doing it.

Rollo
11-26-10, 01:58 PM
Look in the minimized icons near the start button, I've seen this when something stupid like a Java update tries to remind me. (but with any card, not 580 specific)

grey_1
11-26-10, 02:02 PM
Do they crash if you run them windowed?

Mine (old 4870) did this with certain games and reinstalling directx fixed it.

I've also seen threads (@tech hq iirc) about a users PSU not being up to snuff for his card, but instead of crashing, the games minimized....

Just banging out ideas for ya...that would drive me batty pretty quickly :lol:

Shocky
11-27-10, 07:09 AM
Look in the minimized icons near the start button, I've seen this when something stupid like a Java update tries to remind me. (but with any card, not 580 specific)

Theres nothing unusual there and java is not installed, I never install that

Shocky
11-27-10, 07:12 AM
Do they crash if you run them windowed?

Mine (old 4870) did this with certain games and reinstalling directx fixed it.

I've also seen threads (@tech hq iirc) about a users PSU not being up to snuff for his card, but instead of crashing, the games minimized....

Just banging out ideas for ya...that would drive me batty pretty quickly :lol:

I havent tried playing them windowed, could try installing DX again though.

Using Zalman 850W PSU which should be more than enough, was using HD5870 Crossfire before this so I don't think the PSU is the issue.

Shocky
11-29-10, 01:34 PM
Tried it with a fresh install on another drive and it's still doing it, so this card is going back.

I'll get a refund, HD6970 is only around the corner so I'll probably get that.

Shame... :(

Hawke
11-29-10, 06:39 PM
Like grey_1 said your power supply could be on it's way out, to find out you will need to do some testing. You have already ruled out a software problem with a fresh install.

If your machine is overclocked reset your bios to its default settings, update the motherboards bios to the latest version and if it's still playing up see if you can borrow another PSU from a friend or another machine and use it to power the video card.

You don't need to remove your current PSU just unplug it from the video card, prop up the spare next to your case and plug it in, power it on first (use a paper clip to short the green pin and one of the black pins in the same row). Then turn on your machine and play some games.

At least that way you will know for sure if you need to go shopping for a new PSU.


Hawke.

Shocky
11-30-10, 04:22 AM
Like grey_1 said your power supply could be on it's way out, to find out you will need to do some testing. You have already ruled out a software problem with a fresh install.

If your machine is overclocked reset your bios to its default settings, update the motherboards bios to the latest version and if it's still playing up see if you can borrow another PSU from a friend or another machine and use it to power the video card.

You don't need to remove your current PSU just unplug it from the video card, prop up the spare next to your case and plug it in, power it on first (use a paper clip to short the green pin and one of the black pins in the same row). Then turn on your machine and play some games.

At least that way you will know for sure if you need to go shopping for a new PSU.

Hawke.

It's not the PSU, it's practically new and has been running HD5870CF for the last three months with a 8800GT for Physx with zero problems.

I'm not going to troubleshoot hardware compatibilty as I've been there before, it's time consuming, expensive and usually a waste of time.

I'll just use my HD5870 for now and get a HD6970 next month.

Hawke
11-30-10, 09:05 PM
I said it could be the PSU, you need to figure out if the problem lies with the PSU or the video card. I know it's a hassle to troubleshoot but if updating your motherboards bios and putting your CPU back to stock clocks has not solved the problem, you may need to fork out the money for a new PSU to determine if the video card is faulty or not.

A PSU can overload or fail at any time, I had a new unit that barely lasted 5 months before becoming unstable, the system would completely lock up while playing games sometimes it took an hour sometimes 5 in the end I had to rma the thing and buy a replacement.

I have just got a GTX580 myself which is why I'm curious about this problem, the only thing I can think of is it could be the new power regulation these cards have which is forcing games to run in windowed mode to prevent the system from becoming unstable.

Anyhow the last thing you want to do is replace the card with another one only to find out your system is still unstable. Good luck and let us know how you get on.


Hawke

Shocky
12-01-10, 01:38 PM
Anyhow the last thing you want to do is replace the card with another one only to find out your system is still unstable.

Hawke

But that's not case, I don't get this problem with my HD5870's.

I'm back too using HD5870 Crossfire and everything is working perfectly.

Hawke
12-02-10, 12:02 AM
Sorry I wasn't very clear with that last sentence, while your PSU can handle your current system just fine it may not be able to supply the GTX580 with the power it needs to run reliably.

Like I said you need to test using another PSU to confirm this because you may find that later on if you get a HD6970 or another new card you could still end up having stability problems and need to get a new PSU, I hope that it doesn't happen but it's a possibility.


Hawke