Custom config + 1900X1200 + 8xQ AA + 16 AF = 60FPS 4 me

[FastRedPonyCar]

My 2nd GTX 470 Arrived yesterday. Got it OC'd up with the other one to 480gtx speed along with the 6gbps SATA PCI-E card w/the Crucial SSD

(nana2)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fastredponycar/Computer/tn_P1040005.jpg







I've always said that crysis running at a smooth 30 fps with a good config is an excellent experience but playing it at full tilt at 60 fps in the most heated explosion and smoke filled fire fights is damn near a religious experience. It's absolutely unbelievable to see.

I'd like to see if I can get a full resolution 60 fps fraps video capture but I can't imagine it being able to handle that and still keep it at 60 fps but I'll try after work... if nothing I can at least snag it hopefully at 1080 or 720 resolution but keep the 60 fps so I can upload it in HD to youtube.

[Soetdjuret]

You should run supersampling on that setup bro.. Will make crysis look better than with ANY config.

[JasonPC]

never understood why people put two SLI or crossfire bridges for 2-way SLI/crossfire. You only need one :P

[FastRedPonyCar]

Soet, how do I setup supersampling? I don't see it in the nvidia control panel for the application?

Jason, this is my first SLI setup and MSI has zero info in the owner manual about what to do.

[Rummy]

LOL yep one only

[Soetdjuret]

You need nvidia inspector.. google and install. Then you need to go into 3dsettings tab pic the game u want SSAA in the list of supported games, most games are in that list. Then select 2x2, 3x3 or 4x4SSAA, the combination modes are there aswell. Also take note that you are also able to choose the more demanding Sparse and Rotated grid supersampling technique which formely was the technique used by radeon and still is. Nvidia up til the gtx 4 and 5 series used/uses Ordered grid super sampling. Anywa, those are also labeled to Sparsegrid SSAA 2x,4 and 8 times. I suggest using regular 2 or 3x3 SSAA.

You might, but am not sure about this thing but you might have to run crysis in dx9 mode for SSAA to work correspondingly.

[FastRedPonyCar]

thanks I'll try that when I get home.

Edit: Nvidia inspector doesn't seem to have any tabs to select 3D options.

Does it enable hidden or extra options in the actual Nvidia control panel that I couldn't see yesterday?

[Soetdjuret]

Common man, u gotta be looking more carefully its there. I spy with my little eye a "gearwheel" of hiddus thingus

[FastRedPonyCar]

yeah I found it earlier. HL2 cinematic mod is stuttering pretty badly when I set the AA transparency supersampling to 8x sparse grid SS. :(

Fraps shows it bouncing really fast from 59 to 60 fps the whole time. Afterburner shows one of the GPU's barely being touched. :confused:


Haven't tested crysis or warhead yet.

[FastRedPonyCar]

probably not the best scene but I only played for a few minutes and it stayed pegged at 50~60 fps the whole time.

Not really sure what sort of visual differences I'm looking for here... AA on the trees?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fastredponycar/Crysis/Crysis2010-12-1321-28-59-35.png

[Soetdjuret]

Not really sure what sort of visual differences I'm looking for here... AA on the trees?


LOL? Not really sure? SSAA makes huge difference to regular rendered scenes in terms if image quality. Were not only talking about perfect AA for both objects and trees but also alot crisper and detailed image. For instance, anisotropic filtering is useless when u have SSAA because distant textures are rendered alot further away and compressed, so they will stay sharp the whole way even if u got AF turned off.

What SSAA really does: Makes ya game look like my crysis screenshots. This is what people like M3dude and Logical can't understand...

Your pic looks sweet, SSAA working for sure. But what lvl of SSAA is that taken at?

If i had a rig to handle it, i would run 4x4 SSAA haha, but also 3x3 makes a pretty insane quality impact on just about any game. But in Crysis, SSAA takes the visuals to new levels never comparable to any other game out there.


yeah I found it earlier. HL2 cinematic mod is stuttering pretty badly when I set the AA transparency supersampling to 8x sparse grid SS. :(
Are you surprised? 8x sparsegrid is the most demanding SSAA mode along with 4x4 Ordered grid... Just run 3x3 order-grid SSAA for the source engine dude...

[FastRedPonyCar]

well regarding HL2 vs Warhead, if I turn Vsync off on both games, HL2's framerate shoots through the roof but warhead only peaks arond 70 or 80 in low detail areas and stick to around 50~60 fps average.

Cinematic mod will average well over 100 fps.

I had warhead set to 8x SSAA same as HL2. That's what is weird. What's also strange is that warhead was pounding both GPU's the entire time but HL2 really only used 1. It's like one card really isn't even being used and makes me wonder if it's a "flaw" with the game engine not using SLI correctly or something??

I'll bump it down to 4x and see if it improves. It's mainly only when I'm turning around. If I'm walking straight line, it doesn't stutter at all.

[Soetdjuret]

I told you to use the regular 3x3 or 4x4 SSAA mode based on Ordered grid super sampling and not the Sparsegrid type. 1. You get a slightly blurry image by using SGSSAA and also its the most demanding of the techniques.

Tip. Get the 1.9.4.1 version of NVIDIA Inspector instead of the latest, it has better menus and overall easier to manage and select different AA and SSAA modes.

Dunno why SLI wont work properly in Hl2 for you. For me it did, when i had my dual 8800 cards...

[Sean_W]

I suppose you need a real beefy card to use these AA modes? 4x is playable for me in Crysis but how do these AA 3x3 modes fair?

[Soetdjuret]

if u can run 4xAA you should be able to do 2x2 SSAA pretty ok. 3x3 SSAA and you will need an SLI or CF setup. I have the GTX 295, similar to a GTX 480 and i can do 2x2 with about 25 - 35 fps which is fine for me. Also depends on what res you run on.

But with your 9800gtx i dont know, it's a weak card lol. You prolly have to lower game settings if u wanna do 2x2 SSAA.

[Sean_W]

I wouldn't expect this card to run Crysis with high AA modes, since it's more mid range of it's series. Just Cause 2 runs pretty well with 8xAA on though.

[Soetdjuret]

Just cause 2 graphics isn't comparable to the one in Crysis...

[Sean_W]

True but it's one of the more intensive games out there. I cannot run it smooth with high shadows, very high object details and CUDA water all the NVIDIA extra graphics settings on.

I think the high resolution shadows and CUDA water are on par with Crysis but that's about it but still a very good looking game.

[Soetdjuret]

Thats because youe card sucks. I have no problem running just cause 2 on max, except for AA, must lower to 4, or i get framedrop. But sure, comparable to crysis it¨'s fairly the same when it comes to performance. Still, crysis loooks much better so i guess JC2 is the game that is bad optimized, not crysis like everyone said.

[Sean_W]

Clearly it's pointless talking to you in a respectable manor, if you're going to call other peoples hardware. My card plays all my games just fine and you should respect that but we know you're very narrow minded because according to you, anything below your own cards sucks, you don't take into account budgets.

You have 2 GTX295 cards, of course JC2 isn't an issue on full settings. :rolleyes:

[Soetdjuret]

I dont have 2 gtx295s i have ONE. And yes, i run just cause 2 fine.

Why do u get pissed when i tell your card sucks? It does, it's an old card by todays standards.

um.. All cards under mine doesn't suck. But GTX 250 does, or shall we call it. GTX 9800 which it actually is. It's not a fast card anymore if u push the graphics in new games.

Am not narrow minded, am very adaptive.

[Sean_W]

You don't recognised the fact the GTS250 is good for any game at 1440x900 at it's price. It maybe a re-branded 9800GTX but it's no weak card for today's games.

There is no other NVIDIA card that beats a GTS250 at it's price point and you cannot get a GTX260 for £80. I don't see how you can justify saying the card is crap when it beat it's competition at it's price point and closely kept up with a Radeon HD 4870.

Sorry, but your definition of "crap" is flawed.

[Soetdjuret]

Ok, youre right in the matter that gts250 is sufficient for most games today at that res. But if u wanna push the graphics and antialiasing in games like crysis and metro, then we will have a problem.

I had a gtx8800 before, and i upgraded to GTx295 because i thought the card wasn't sufficient for me. And now, at the end of 2010, this card is not sufficient anymore, so am gonna upgrade after new year.

[Sean_W]

Yep, true about AA in Crysis, this card really struggles with 4xAA. I'm setting my sights on a GTX460 next, since the price Vs performance is good and I'm on a budget.

[Soetdjuret]

While your at that matter... Here's a legit and professionally executed price/performance or performance-per-dollar chart:

http://h-2.abload.de/img/untitledkxcb.jpg
http://www.sweclockers.com/image/diagram/1997?k=91b25ecd870191aafe939a227d7f4d71