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bkswaney
08-01-03, 11:46 PM
I just got a 9800 NonPro from bestbuy.
I'm not happy at all with the memory on it. Artifacts even at 315 memory after a while of playing.

So I'm getting one of the 2 cards.

BuiltByAti 9800 Pro or a cool looking BFG 5900.
I play my games at 1024 res so I need speed in AA/AF.
4xAA and 8x AF is what I use.

I have to run a 9800 at 4xAGP to get it stable tho. :(

What should I buy?

Here is the BFG.
http://www.bfgtech.com/5900_redux.html

I'm really hoping it has this cooler. But is says on there site it might not be.
Has anyone got one of this from bestbuy?

Carbon Unit
08-01-03, 11:49 PM
I would buy the Nvidia card, the 50.xx dets are going to rock

SH64
08-01-03, 11:51 PM
5900.

CaptNKILL
08-01-03, 11:51 PM
What about the other thread where we sort of agreed on a 9800np from GameVE for $244? What happened to that?

:p

bkswaney
08-01-03, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by CaptNKILL
What about the other thread where we sort of agreed on a 9800np from GameVE for $244? What happened to that?

:p

Well, a 3 year warrenty for one. Plus I had to have something quick. I sold my 5800U and needed a card for my system.
My wife said go buy it because I was not getting back my laptop. It was hers now. ;) So I would have been down and I don't like that. No PC. :eek:

Rytr
08-02-03, 12:00 AM
NV News' BFG review will be out Sunday night or early Monday.

bkswaney
08-02-03, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Rytr
NV News' BFG review will be out Sunday night or early Monday.

Thanx. But I'm getting a new card Sat. It's not going to do me much good after I have one. ;) "lol"

Rytr
08-02-03, 12:08 AM
Well if you're looking at the 5900U you might want to take a look at the BFG card. ;)

lukar
08-02-03, 12:20 AM
You will make mistake buying BFG 5900. It's not even ultra, even it is, believe me it sucks comparing to Radeon 9800Pro. You will see when HL2 come out.

CaptNKILL
08-02-03, 12:24 AM
Ack, the the 9800 Pro competes with the 5900 Ultra, how can the 5900 NON Ultra be a better choice than the 9800 Pro :confused:

The non ultra is probably a tad faster than the card you have (9800 np), where as the 9800 Pro is quite a bit faster.

I voted 9800 pro.

bkswaney
08-02-03, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by lukar
You will make mistake buying BFG 5900. It's not even ultra, even it is, believe me it sucks comparing to Radeon 9800Pro. You will see when HL2 come out.

I was also told from someone else "who I trust" to get a 9800 Pro. He has a 9800Pro-256 and a 5900U. ;)

I think the Pro will be it. Even using x4 agp mode.
Most say I'm only loosing maybe 1% from x8. :)

bkswaney
08-02-03, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by CaptNKILL
Ack, the the 9800 Pro competes with the 5900 Ultra, how can the 5900 NON Ultra be a better choice than the 9800 Pro :confused:

The non ultra is probably a tad faster than the card you have (9800 np), where as the 9800 Pro is quite a bit faster.

I voted 9800 pro.

Thanx.... I guess coming from a 5800U the memory speed on my card just sucks. ;) After all it's hard to top 1160Mhz memory speeds. :D I'm going to pick up the 9800Pro. :)
If they had a 256 I would buy it. But I don't think bestbuy has any. They do have a 5900U tho.

ChrisRay
08-02-03, 01:44 AM
You're never really going to find an objective opinion on such subjective material. I suggest you buy the one that better suits you after making an educated decision of researching the pros and cons of each card.

5150 Joker
08-02-03, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by bkswaney
I was also told from someone else "who I trust" to get a 9800 Pro. He has a 9800Pro-256 and a 5900U. ;)

I think the Pro will be it. Even using x4 agp mode.
Most say I'm only loosing maybe 1% from x8. :)

I wouldn't even say 1%, I had no difference in performance switching from 4x agp to 8x agp.

5150 Joker
08-02-03, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by ChrisRay
You're never really going to find an objective opinion on such subjective material. I suggest you buy the one that better suits you after making an educated decision of researching the pros and cons of each card.

I agree, buy what you like although my personal opinion is the 9800 pro since I had a chance to demo a 5900 ultra myself recently and wasn't impressed at all.

-=DVS=-
08-02-03, 02:49 AM
RADEON 9800 PRO

GlowStick
08-02-03, 02:54 AM
BITBOYS!

but id go for the 9800pro unless your getting an 5900ultra, the 9800pro preforms more for less, but i woudlnt buy the 9800 pro 256mb it dosent justfy the hike.

IISquintsII
08-02-03, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by 5150 Joker
I wouldn't even say 1%, I had no difference in performance switching from 4x agp to 8x agp.

Average Joe Consumer: " 8x must be better than 4x! "

Marketing Department: " Cha-ching! "

Truth: What 5150 Joker just said:D

scott123
08-02-03, 10:29 AM
I actually bought both :) . Although both are great cards, my overall vote must go to ATI's 9800 Pro. This is coming from a Nvidit, who realizes that ATI is presently offering a better gaming solution.

Scott

Carbon Unit
08-02-03, 10:47 AM
9800 for DX 8 games (*cough cough* or a Ti4200)
5900 for DX 9 games

It doesnt get any more more simple than that

Mangler
08-02-03, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Carbon Unit
9800 for DX 8 games (*cough cough* or a Ti4200)
5900 for DX 9 games

It doesnt get any more more simple than that


:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I would like to know why you seem to think that a 9800 isn't suited for dx9, when a fx5900 is.

howard stern
08-02-03, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Carbon Unit
9800 for DX 8 games (*cough cough* or a Ti4200)
5900 for DX 9 games

It doesnt get any more more simple than that

WHAT!, I think you have that reversed dude, 9800pro is a much better DX9 card.

Rytr
08-02-03, 12:39 PM
They both are suited for DX9, just depends on which one you prefer. Really a tough decision unless you are a fan of one over the other.

-=DVS=-
08-02-03, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney
I just got a 9800 NonPro from bestbuy.
I'm not happy at all with the memory on it. Artifacts even at 315 memory after a while of playing.

So I'm getting one of the 2 cards.

BuiltByAti 9800 Pro or a cool looking BFG 5900.
I play my games at 1024 res so I need speed in AA/AF.
4xAA and 8x AF is what I use.

I have to run a 9800 at 4xAGP to get it stable tho. :(

What should I buy?

Here is the BFG.
http://www.bfgtech.com/5900_redux.html

I'm really hoping it has this cooler. But is says on there site it might not be.
Has anyone got one of this from bestbuy?


Hmm isn't GFFX 5900 suppose to be with core of 450 ? :confused:

Becouse the one you found have
Specifications
• GPU NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX 5900
• Bus Type AGP
• Memory 128MB DDR
• Core Clock 400MHz
• RAMDAC Dual 400MHz
• API Support Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0, OpenGL
for Microsoft® Windows®
• Connectors VGA, DVI, S-Video out
• 300 million vertices/sec.

-=DVS=-
08-02-03, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Carbon Unit
9800 for DX 8 games (*cough cough* or a Ti4200)
5900 for DX 9 games

It doesnt get any more more simple than that


DX9 game = Shader power , Shader quantity

9800 = Unlimited shaders + High performance
5900 = Max only 1000 + Slower performance

:rolleyes: