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ATOJAR
01-12-11, 04:30 PM
Ok as the name says im hoping one of you lot can recommend me a nice new cooler.

This old Ultra-120 eXtreme is starting to hold me back at overclocks past 3.6GHz!

So .... What do you think? ... Anything good on the market that could cope with a 4GHz+ overclock? ... I have around 80 - 90 max to spend.

ATOJAR
01-12-11, 05:02 PM
Hmm, Been looking here. http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/

May think about building my own water-cooling system, The problem is i haven't a clue where to start! .... :o

What is a decent Water Block?

Am i best off getting a Reservoir with a pump built in?

If not what size Reservoir should i get? What about a pump? Whats a decent pump?

Radiators! .... Whats a decent Radiator .. Whats size do i get?

How does the hose connect to the Water Block, Reservoir & pump?

:headexplode:

I can now see why some people just buy a pre-built/sealed water-cooling kit.

EDIT: could a bother somebody to take a look through the above site to spec me out a full, Half decent, Budget kit ... :)

Roadhog
01-12-11, 05:21 PM
Noctua NH-D14

bob saget
01-12-11, 08:36 PM
there are some great air cooling setups out now, like the one ^ recommended, but i am going to guess the real world difference between 3.6 and 4 will not justify a brand new cooler. I dont think you'll squeeze a lot of extra fps out, you might though....

Bman212121
01-12-11, 09:43 PM
What kind of fan do you have on your TRUE? Simply adding a 2nd fan or a higher airflow fan can make a difference on the cooler. That and if you want to lap the base of the heatsink that might help some as well.

bob saget
01-12-11, 11:53 PM
What kind of fan do you have on your TRUE? Simply adding a 2nd fan or a higher airflow fan can make a difference on the cooler. That and if you want to lap the base of the heatsink that might help some as well.

yea, or make sure there's no dust, cause that adds a couple degrees sometimes. i am idling right at 40c with my overclock, and would probably be in the 42-44 range for 4.0, which is acceptable imo.

ATOJAR
01-13-11, 12:49 AM
Hmm funny you should mention the dust! ... Just checked and its pretty bad in there. :o

Well you guys have me thinking .... Think ill try the cheaper option first ... Just bought two 120mm dust filters for the two fans on the front of this Antec 900.

Just bought two of these.

Aluminum Filter Dust Guard.
http://i.suntekstore.com/wt/484000001/10008829/10008829_3_image.jpg

Now for a good 120mm fan for my heat-sink, Any recommendations on a good CFM fan?

What about the Scythe S-FLEX 1600RPM with 63.7 CFM? ... Or maybe two in a push/pull config?

bob saget
01-13-11, 01:05 AM
one should be good, two would be great. yea, if it has cfm in the 60s you should be fine.

ATOJAR
01-13-11, 01:24 AM
I actually have a antec fan on there atm. I took the antec fan from the back of the case and put it on the ultra 120 heatsink. I then put a cheapo 120 Fan as a exhaust.

frenchy2k1
01-13-11, 02:23 PM
if you are looking at changing your cooler, look here for the best reviews.
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm#INTELHEATSINK

ATOJAR
01-13-11, 02:57 PM
Ok ive just ordered x2 Scythe S-FLEX 1600RPM 120mm fans, Another set of Ultra120 eXtreme fan wire clips to clip the other S-FLEX so ill have two 120 mm fans in a push pull config.

Ive ordered x3 of the pictured Aluminum dust Filters. I'm gonna totally strip the case out give everything a really good clean put the dust filters in, Put the a 120mm antec fan from the CPU cooler onto the back with a dust filter in also sucking in.

I'm gonna have the two 120mm's on the front and the 120mm on the back all sucking in and all with dust filters on. I'm gonna have the 200mm fan on the top as the exhaust fan.

I'm gonna have the my Ultra 120 with the x2 Scythe S-FLEX fans in a push pull config and im gonna turn the CPU cooler around so that the cooler is horizontal in the case and blowing "warm" the air straight onto the 200mm fan at the top of the case.

Well this is the plan. ill put up some before and after temps.

XDanger
01-13-11, 03:03 PM
If I remember correctly (if) ,then the optimum distance from filter to fan is 2cm.

Any closer and the fan isn't able to do its job as it should.

grey_1
01-13-11, 03:07 PM
Thermalright Archon
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermalright-archon.html

ATOJAR
01-13-11, 03:14 PM
Ill just add temps.

Idle temps.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/ATOJAR/idle.jpg

Prime95 Small FFTs after 15+ mins.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/ATOJAR/load.jpg

As you can see it gets a little warm.

Roadhog
01-13-11, 03:34 PM
70c isnt hot lol!

ATOJAR
01-13-11, 04:10 PM
70c isn't hot lol!

Im sure i read a while ago that you don't really wanna push these cpu's past 70 - 75c

ATOJAR
01-17-11, 07:19 AM
Well I'm at work ATM, just got a txt of the missus that my fans and dust filters have arrived.

Ill do a strip down of my system tonight. Clean it and install the new fans, ill report back with the outcome.

ATOJAR
01-17-11, 02:32 PM
Well finally sorted ... All fitted and running fine.

My two Scythe S-FLEX fans arrived and the extra Ultra120 eXtreme fan wire clips to clip the other S-FLEX on in the push/pull config.

Anyhow Turned the rear fan around so it now sucks in, Its on medium setting. The two front fans both suck in and are both on high setting, The top 200mm fan is now the exhaust fan, Its on medium.

Ive turned the ultra 120 horizontal so it now sucks ant warm air up towards the top 200mm exhaust fan with the two new Scythe S-FLEX 1600RPM 120mm fans in a push/pull config.

Here's what it looks like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/ATOJAR/top.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/ATOJAR/bottom.jpg

And in the case(partly built)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/ATOJAR/side.jpg

Here's the results.

As you can see not a massive difference in idle temps.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/ATOJAR/newidle.jpg


But damn, Look at the new loads temps .... A massive massive drop. :D ... Hit a high of 59c but then dropped back down and pretty much a solid 57c!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/ATOJAR/newload.jpg

mullet
01-17-11, 03:06 PM
Now your talking, good job.

ViN86
01-17-11, 03:11 PM
Now you can overclock. Nice job. :)


To be honest, Roadhog was right. 70C isn't insanely hot. These chips run warmer naturally. My chip is at 4GHz and it maxes out at 74C. But in games and all my apps it doesn't get hotter than 60C. Not many real world apps can actually stress the processor unless you're doing hardcore multithreaded computations.

ATOJAR
01-17-11, 03:22 PM
Cheers guys. :)

I literally just clocked up to 4GHz like 10 - 15 mins ago. Im running prime95 Small FFTs stress test as i type. Ive had to bump the vcore up from 1.1v that it was at for 3.6GHz ... Its now at 1.28v ... Its hit a high 75c ... Seems to be staying at 75c solid.

So you guys think 75c is not a dangerously high temp?

Roadhog
01-17-11, 04:01 PM
Im sure i read a while ago that you don't really wanna push these cpu's past 70 - 75c

Uhh, dunno where you read that but 70c is considered cool...

Anything under 95c is fine.

Roadhog
01-17-11, 04:02 PM
Cheers guys. :)

I literally just clocked up to 4GHz like 10 - 15 mins ago. Im running prime95 Small FFTs stress test as i type. Ive had to bump the vcore up from 1.1v that it was at for 3.6GHz ... Its now at 1.28v ... Its hit a high 75c ... Seems to be staying at 75c solid.

So you guys think 75c is not a dangerously high temp?

Prime95 isn't a stress test anymore for these cpu's. You need to run LINX on it.

ATOJAR
01-17-11, 04:06 PM
Anything under 95c is fine.

Really! ..... That hot? :bugeyes:

Roadhog
01-17-11, 04:10 PM
Really! ..... That hot? :bugeyes:

To reflow the thermal paste on my cpu I had to run it with the water pump off and let it chill at 100c for ~10minutes. Still works fine.