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Section-9
01-14-11, 06:20 PM
I think the choosing of hardware on his part could use a bit of work, this would be his first build ever.

He wants an Intel/Nvidia based system for 3D modeling/rendering and of course gaming, and a 3D capable monitor (he wants the nvidia 3D glasses badly)

I will obviously assist him where I can in the building process.

What do you guys think ?

Cheaper/wiser alternatives ?

Opinions would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys. :)

http://i54.tinypic.com/20icdbn.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/6tk3z5.jpg

bobkn
01-14-11, 09:11 PM
There's one obvious incompatibility: the motherboard you've listed is Socket 1156. The CPU is an I7-980X, which requires Socket 1366, with an Intel X58 chipset.

If your friend is interested in overclocking, he might prefer a third-party board to one from Intel. Asus, eVGA, MSI, Gigabyte, Asrock, etc. all make good ones. (Others do as well.) At this time, he might want board that support 6Gb SATA and USB3 as well. The advanced search tool at Newegg is handy for starting a search, even if you buy elsewhere. The 1366 board will have, on average, a higher price than the 1156 ones, perhaps about $100 higher.

The I7-980X also supports triple channel RAM, so I'd suggest something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231358

(Gskill 3 X 4GB, DDR3 1600.)

For the PSU, I'd suggest:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014

(Corsair 1200W modular. Certified by nVidia for *3* GTX580 cards in SLI.)

For the HD,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136456

(WD Caviar Black. Performance drive, rather than the low-power Green model.) Or, save a few dollars and get the 1.5TB model:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136592

(lower price per terabyte.)

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Your friend has spec'd an expensive system. As an alternative, I'd suggest one of the new Sandy Bridge systems, using Socket 1155. (That's incompatible with Socket 1156, although you can use the same third-party cooler with both.) A core I7-2600k costs $330. The matching P67 motherboards range widely in price, but decent ones can be had for less than $200. The 2600K has an unlocked multiplier, and it's not hard to overclock to 4.5GHz or higher. It won't outperform an overclocked I7-980X for some applications, but it's probably superior in applications that don't exploit multithreading (games).

The Sandy Bridge systems don't support triple channel memory, only dual channel, but the difference is partly made up by the higher performance of the memory controller. (By one benchmark, the SB has about 84% of the bandwidth of a Socket 1366 Core I7 with the same speed of RAM, rather than the 67% you'd expect from the dual/triple difference.)

The main drawback to Sandy Bridge at the moment is that it's still too new. BIOS updates may fix a lot of the teething problems, but it may be a few months before the best motherboard choices become clear.

However, the I7-980X plus an X58 motherboard would cost about $1300. An I7-2600k with a P67 board would cost $500 or so.

Intel17
01-14-11, 09:31 PM
Yeah, I second the 2600k + P67 board idea.

ViN86
01-15-11, 01:15 AM
bobkn has a lot of good suggestions. Your friend can save a lot of money with a Sandy Bridge system.

XDanger
01-15-11, 06:45 AM
Get a Xonar or Auzentech instead of an Creative Soundblaster X-Fi

Auzen X-Fi Bravura 7.1 would be my choice given the budget and upgrade the op-amps

JohnEJohn
01-15-11, 06:55 AM
I say forget the I7-980X. It's almost 3 times more expensive than the 2600K sandy bridge processor and the cost does not in any way warrent the premium imho.

Also as already mentioned get a 3rd party board especailly if your friend wants to seriously get into overclocking, have a look at the DFI offerings.

A good set of bench results here:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188

JohnEJohn
01-16-11, 05:47 AM
How come every thread I post in die's......... :( :banghead:(pb)

Section-9
01-16-11, 08:08 AM
It's not dead yet :) I am relaying this info back to my friend tomorrow, again thanks for all the help guys really appreciated.

We'll see what he decides then.

@XDanger thanks for reminder on the better sound cards. (nana2)

Bman212121
01-16-11, 10:19 AM
Also, change out those WD 2TB hard drives for either seagates or samsungs. A lot of users here have had them die in a short period of time.

For Sandy Bridge if you want the kitchen sink then look at getting a 2600K and either the Asus P8P67 Deluxe or a Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7. Newegg also lists a ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution which isn't on Asus's site yet. Looks very comparable to the Deluxe. Supposed to be a Workstation board.

nekrosoft13
01-16-11, 01:10 PM
I say forget the I7-980X. It's almost 3 times more expensive than the 2600K sandy bridge processor and the cost does not in any way warrent the premium imho.

Also as already mentioned get a 3rd party board especailly if your friend wants to seriously get into overclocking, have a look at the DFI offerings.
A good set of bench results here:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188

DFI according to their website don't have nay sandy bridge boards. even if they did, i wouldn't buy a board from them, its one of those companies that is barelly kicking, soon will die just like Abit.

nekrosoft13
01-16-11, 01:12 PM
Also, change out those WD 2TB hard drives for either seagates or samsungs. A lot of users here have had them die in a short period of time.


i would say either Samsung or Hitachi, Seagates now makes a lot of their hard drives in China.

Hitachi also makes some hard drives in china, so pay attention and get one from other factory.

Samsung drives are just excellent.

and last advice, unless you plan to buy locally, DON'T BUY FROM TIGER DIRECT, their prices are higher, selection sucks, and usually horrible customer service.

Airbrushkid
01-16-11, 01:24 PM
I didn't realize you could use a i7 980X 1366 in a LGA 1156 board. Thats what you have listed in the Newegg screenshot.