Mercedes-Benz quality gone down the drain

[Kain]

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47772

[vampireuk]

Seriously, are so many threads required for BMW and mercedes?

[Kain]

I guess not, but...

Can you merge it with another thread?

[Kain]

DETROIT — The results of J.D. Power and Associates’ most influential survey — long-term vehicle quality over three years of ownership — shows that U.S. automakers are getting better, most Europeans are getting worse and some expensive luxury brands are getting much worse.

Power’s Vehicle Dependability Study, which tracks consumer complaints over three years, shows dramatically how some automakers that have done well on Power’s Initial Quality Survey, which measures quality in just the first three months, get worse with time, and some brands that score mediocre in short-term quality are good long-term buys.

Porsche topped all automakers, with 193 problems per 100 vehicles. Lexus topped all brands, with 163 problems per 100 cars. On average, said Power, Big Three automakers outpace Europeans by 49 problems per 100 cars.

The most dramatic fall is Mercedes-Benz, which led all automakers in long-term quality fifteen years ago in Power’s first VDS, but fell to 25th this year, well behind its competition and with twice as many problems per 100 vehicles than Lexus. “The Mercedes E-Class and M-Class have had more than their fair share of complaints,” said Power’s Joe Ivers. Mercedes lost a lot of points on interior problems, switches and controls, window problems, and some faulty components including fuel pumps. It also lost on excessive brake dust on its wheels, a problem unique to German cars with big brakes designed for the autobahn. BMW and Porsche, though, scored much higher than Mercedes. Mercedes also posted the greatest degradation of quality between its 2000 Initial Quality Survey score to its three-year score for the same vehicles — 137 percent, which shows how misleading the IQS survey ranking can be for some brands.

[volt]

Get a Maybach then :rolleyes:

[Kain]

Originally posted by volt
Get a Maybach then :rolleyes: I hope you know Maybach is made by Mercedes-Benz.

[volt]

Originally posted by Kain
I hope you know Maybach is made by Mercedes-Benz.

Your point is? Are you saying it's sh1tty quality too? I have never heard of a Benz built from atrocious components, any Benz for that matter. I bet it's only a problem with built by US of A cars.

[p0lish_p0w3r]

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that is sooooooo true
Mbenz started sliding down with quality since teh infamous merger with the US chrysler......
Talk about ****ty cars....

[2fast4u]

probably partialy true for the whole picture. but as far as i read that article those quality problems are related to the german (mercedes) part of the company only (e.g. e and m-class) which are manufactured in stuttgart. chrylser has nothing to do with that.

[Kain]

Originally posted by volt
I bet it's only a problem with built by US of A cars. No. The only Mercedes-Benz built in the USA is the ML-Class, and yes that one has been the most problematic since launch.

Secondly, they also said that the E-Class is the fastest deteriorating car in the industry.

[Kain]

One owner says his $145,000 V-12-powered S600 sedan sits in his garage in Virginia because the doors and trunk won't open and the battery keeps dying. http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/e_article000168275.cfm

[volt]

Sporadic issues, or the owners don't take a good care of the car? I don't know, I still don't believe that crap.

[Kain]

Originally posted by 2fast4u
probably partialy true for the whole picture. but as far as i read that article those quality problems are related to the german (mercedes) part of the company only (e.g. e and m-class) which are manufactured in stuttgart. chrylser has nothing to do with that. ALL Mercedes-Benz cars are made in Germany EXCEPT the ML-Class which is made in USA.

[Kain]

Originally posted by volt
Sporadic issues, or the owners don't take a good care of the car? I don't know, I still don't believe that crap. Why not? MB quality has gone to ****, my 2003 E55 interior quality, is not as good as it should be.

[The Baron]

M-Class is made near Tuscaloosa, AL, which is where I used to live.

So never mention the M-Class. I saw about 100 a day, and they're really ugly.

[volt]

Maybe because they use more plastic components than ever ?

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by Kain
ALL Mercedes-Benz cars are made in Germany EXCEPT the ML-Class which is made in USA.

my point exactly

[Kain]

Originally posted by volt
Maybe because they use more plastic components than ever ? No!

Just click the following link and read.

http://mbspy.com/mbquality.htm

[intercede007]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Seriously, are so many threads required for BMW and mercedes?

Just like every political thread get's its own.

[intercede007]

One owner says his $145,000 V-12-powered S600 sedan sits in his garage in Virginia because the doors and trunk won't open and the battery keeps dying.

Grounding cable.

Do I get my $120 an hour now?

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by intercede007
Just like every political thread get's its own.

Thats different:p

[UDawg]

Some people like cars some people like politics and others like to cry about both. ;) :p

[-=Gib-McFragger=-]

LOL WTF????!!!! ANOTHER Mercedes/BMW thread???

Didn't intercede and I tell you that Merc's are TEH SUCK ages ago?? NOW you see the light??? :p

[Kain]

Originally posted by -=Gib-McFragger=-
LOL WTF????!!!! ANOTHER Mercedes/BMW thread???

Didn't intercede and I tell you that Merc's are TEH SUCK ages ago?? NOW you see the light??? :p Nice avatar. :p

[-=Gib-McFragger=-]

LOL Thx