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$n][pErMan
04-15-11, 10:33 AM
Alrighty, I have not upgraded my PC in quite awhile (did not have the need). Time to start from scratch and build a new system. I have been out of the new hardware loop for awhile, I am really just looking to see what you all think is the best of the best out right now! Intel, AMD? nVidia, ATi? Are SSD Hard Drives finally worth the $$$? Best memory these days for OC'ing? So many questions! I feel like im starting all over on PC knowledge again... lol. Help an old school PC gamer out! :)

frenchy2k1
04-15-11, 12:34 PM
Intel on processor is not only untouchable, but doing so at reasonable prices: their new core processors are great If you plan to overclock, take a 'K' proc (equivalent to AMD black, with unlock multipliers) as bus overclock is *VERY* limited. A 2500K or 2600K (adds HT) should be the heart of your system.
Chipset is not yet great though. Get the one allowing OC (but no integrated video): P67 or wait for the shortly coming (Q2) Z68.

Video Card: nice time to jump in. Both AMD and NV have great products out. AMD is a bit better in price/perf ratio, but NV has add-on like CUDA and 3D. Your call. Hard to go wrong with either of AMD 69XX or NV560/570. Exact card will depend on budget.

SSD: still expensive, offer even greater benefits. Look at the reviews on Anandtech and choose your poison depending on budget and space/perfs wanted.

As for the rest, like always, trade offs between price and perfs.

mullet
04-15-11, 01:10 PM
Intel 2011 Ivy\ wait for it\ you win.

Q
04-15-11, 06:20 PM
ARE YOU HAVING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR COMPUTER HAVING NEW SYSTEM TIME!?! REPLACE MOTHERBOARD BATTERIES! NEVER LOSE TIME AGAIN! NEVER NEW SYSTEM TIME! (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=158456)

hirantha
04-16-11, 11:22 PM
Check out nvnews AngelGraves13 future setup (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=161517) he got some good components.. just don't spend money on a killer nic and include a SSD if you can for the OS.

OCZ vertex 3 120GB is beating all the benchmarks out there.

and Asus has a very solid P67 board. ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) with Intel NIC :) (This is only if you don't want to wait for X79)

$n][pErMan
04-17-11, 01:02 AM
Intel on processor is not only untouchable, but doing so at reasonable prices: their new core processors are great If you plan to overclock, take a 'K' proc (equivalent to AMD black, with unlock multipliers) as bus overclock is *VERY* limited. A 2500K or 2600K (adds HT) should be the heart of your system.
Chipset is not yet great though. Get the one allowing OC (but no integrated video): P67 or wait for the shortly coming (Q2) Z68.

Video Card: nice time to jump in. Both AMD and NV have great products out. AMD is a bit better in price/perf ratio, but NV has add-on like CUDA and 3D. Your call. Hard to go wrong with either of AMD 69XX or NV560/570. Exact card will depend on budget.

SSD: still expensive, offer even greater benefits. Look at the reviews on Anandtech and choose your poison depending on budget and space/perfs wanted.

As for the rest, like always, trade offs between price and perfs.

So OC'ing these intel CPU's is not as stable as it has been in the past? I used to get some whicked OC's with the FSB. I would like stability with my OC (and believe me I will be OC'ing it!), so should Intel really be my choice? Do you think waiting for Ivy is worth it?

I'll take a look at his specs for a starting point of what is out these days. I don't waste money on NIC's either... lol. I have found the gigabit speeds on motherboards these days plenty fast for what I do. I am not running a NAS box at the moment.

As for motherboards, I will probably try and stick with ASUS again. The current ASUS board I am using is by far the best motherboard I have ever owned. Time and time again I always come back to ASUS and find stability and reliability. :)

mullet
04-17-11, 08:18 AM
some specs.

Intel X68 is a part of Intel's new Patsburg platform where the LGA 2011 socket will be used to hold Sandy Bridge E processors, which in turn houses a quad-channel DDR3 memory controller but no graphics. The processors supports 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes and is geared toward enthusiasts and workstations with demands for maximal performance.

Roliath
04-17-11, 03:03 PM
I noticed your name is sniperman, I assume you like to snipe. Well, if you do the killer nic improves your sniping k/d. Ask roadhog :D


No but in all reality, you could purchase things like sound cards, ssd's, and graphics cards even. But I would wait until Bulldozer/Ivy Bridge.

$n][pErMan
04-19-11, 09:42 PM
It seems like a lot of you are telling me to wait... lol. :) I mean, I am still gaming good on my current system for now. How long until all the new "goodies" even come out?

Intel17
04-19-11, 10:07 PM
What's your budget? There's no sense waiting for newer stuff to come out -- get something awesome now! :D

Redeemed
04-20-11, 02:30 AM
[pErMan;2420908']It seems like a lot of you are telling me to wait... lol. :) I mean, I am still gaming good on my current system for now. How long until all the new "goodies" even come out?

That Q6600 still has some leg room left I'd say. I mean, if you *had* to upgrade I'd dump a GTX580 in your rig. Maybe an SSD as well if you don't already have one. Otherwise I'd hold onto what you have untill the LGA1366 successor is available sometime towards the end of this year. THAT will be a proper upgrade. For the CPU at least. However, you'll still want to replace that video card, and if you can afford it get an SSD as well. Combined, prepare to have yur hed esplode from awe-sum-ness. :cool:

Intel17
04-20-11, 07:27 AM
Honestly, I'd say that if you went with an i7 970 + 8GB DDR3 + a nice LGA 1366 board + a GTX 580, you would be a very happy camper. Jus' sayin'. :D

Stoneyguy
04-20-11, 07:46 AM
Why wait? There is always something better around the corner. If it were a month or two off, then sure, but if I'm not mistaken we're talking about Q4.

I've done two upgrades since my Q6600. First was the Q9550 and now it's the 2600K. Both times I've noticed a significant increase in performance so I'm sure you'll be happy going directly from a 6600 to a 2600K. Now granted I think using a SSD for my OS has contributed the most to the snappier feel this time around.

Anyway, I always refer to this as the social upgrading cycle. Upgrading via a community such as Nvnews will always give you an added boost to satisfaction when your pimping your specs out to fellow members and then you suffer from unnecessary inadequacy and buyers remorse when the next generation hardware comes out. Just upgrade when you feel it's necessary (or for me, when I have the money) and enjoy your new system.

$n][pErMan
04-23-11, 11:24 AM
Trust me, I know there is always something around the corner! I like to buy the best of the best at the start of something new. The only reason I am thinking of waiting now is it sounds like there is a ton of new things coming out around the 2nd half of this year. I don't feel I NEED and upgrade, but I do have the money and want to keep up with the technology. :)

To hold me over untill a new socket comes out for the Intel CPU's, would a new video card hold me over on my current setup? Or do you think it would be held back because of my CPU, memory and chipset?

Retrolock
04-25-11, 11:13 PM
If you're going to play the waiting game, it'll be mighty frustrating because new stuff comes out all the time. :D I say just buy a 2600K now and get the motherboard you want like Maximus 4 extreme, some G.Skill 4x2 DDR3 1600 rams and a Noctua NH-D14 :D then splurge on a gtx 580 you'll be set for 2 years.

Stoneyguy
04-26-11, 02:31 AM
If you're going to play the waiting game, it'll be mighty frustrating because new stuff comes out all the time. :D I say just buy a 2600K now and get the motherboard you want like Maximus 4 extreme, some G.Skill 4x2 DDR3 1600 rams and a Noctua NH-D14 :D then splurge on a gtx 580 you'll be set for 2 years.

Damn sounds like somebody has specific system on his mind. :p

Retrolock
04-26-11, 07:20 AM
Damn sounds like somebody has specific system on his mind. :p

:p I like yours. No homo

mullet
04-26-11, 08:31 AM
If I were to get a system right now it would be this.
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701)
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070)
G.SKILL Ripjaws X + Turbulence II Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231453)
OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-240G 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227707)
ASUS ENGTX580 DCII/2DIS/1536MD5 GeForce GTX 580 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121429)
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS910 910W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703022)

Total = $1,934.94

Retrolock
04-26-11, 08:58 AM
^Good choices. I'd get the Asrock P67 Extreme 6 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157231&cm_re=asrock_p67-_-13-157-231-_-Product) which costs $20 less and is a great overclocking board.

mullet
04-26-11, 09:20 AM
I wouldn't buy a asrock usb thumb drive.

Retrolock
04-26-11, 09:28 AM
I wouldn't buy a asrock usb thumb drive.

:thumbdwn: Now that's just plain wrong.

Q
04-26-11, 03:46 PM
Asrock used to really make some shifty crap. One of my first custom-builds was with an Asrock board. Had a cool "CPU UPGRADE" feature where you could literally put in a daughter-board card that would accept a different socket and memory combination.

Unstable POS, though.

I've heard they've come a long ways since then. That was probably around 2004.

nekrosoft13
04-26-11, 03:58 PM
quite a few companies that does boards with daugther board.

And isn't asrock just a cheaper asus. Asrock is owned by Asus.

Moshing
04-26-11, 07:01 PM
If I were to get a system right now it would be this.
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701)
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070)
G.SKILL Ripjaws X + Turbulence II Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231453)
OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-240G 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227707)
ASUS ENGTX580 DCII/2DIS/1536MD5 GeForce GTX 580 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121429)
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS910 910W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703022)

Total = $1,934.94

Swap out the Deluxe for a Sabertooth, and I'd call it perfect.

Retrolock
04-26-11, 08:42 PM
Asrock used to be under Asus, now they are an independent company. Incidentally, they are the 3rd largest mobo manufacturer in the world, surpassing even MSI. Google it up :D It doesn't mean they produce cheap and worthless boards, it means they produce affordable and amazing boards. Look at tomshardware's review of High End P67 Express: Five 200-250 motherboards (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-p67-extreme6-asus-p8p67-deluxe-msi-p67a-gd80,2924.html)