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Logical
05-03-11, 10:36 AM
PC gamers that play Dc universe, Everquest or any other SOE subscribed game could be at risk to the breach of security sony had 2 weeks ago.

As a result all SOE servers have been shut down.

http://www.soe.com/securityupdate/

Ninjaman09
05-03-11, 10:43 AM
I can't even imagine how much this is costing Sony. Really hope it doesn't kill them off. :p

t3hl33td4rg0n
05-03-11, 12:27 PM
Honestly, I've been sick of Sony (well, mostly sony ericsson/close enough), so I'm not losing any sleep over this.

Sean_W
05-03-11, 12:49 PM
Oh dear, you'll have to play your games the old fashioned way. :p

BioHazZarD
05-03-11, 02:09 PM
Geez wtf is with sony and their security.. You would think a big company like they are would have some decent security really embarassing how more nonsense gets out.. and psn is still not back online.

jeffmd
05-03-11, 03:22 PM
Getting more tired about hearing people bitch about sony's security. Yes, we know they have had a major compromise. yes, they have taken pretty much everything offline to freeze any more damage from happening. Fine, so they screwed up bif time.

Quit telling ME over and over!

nekrosoft13
05-03-11, 04:39 PM
everyone send jeff a PM about sony security

Sean_W
05-03-11, 05:32 PM
Getting more tired about hearing people bitch about sony's security. Yes, we know they have had a major compromise. yes, they have taken pretty much everything offline to freeze any more damage from happening. Fine, so they screwed up bif time.

Quit telling ME over and over!

Twice now.

nutcrackr
05-03-11, 06:24 PM
Getting more tired about hearing people bitch about sony's security. Yes, we know they have had a major compromise. yes, they have taken pretty much everything offline to freeze any more damage from happening. Fine, so they screwed up bif time.

Quit telling ME over and over!

Why come in a thread about it then?

Madpistol
05-04-11, 01:13 AM
Sony's security sux. ;)

Redeemed
05-04-11, 01:17 AM
everyone send jeff a PM about sony security

:rofl

Johnny C
05-04-11, 08:15 PM
class action ftw....

Ninja Prime
05-04-11, 10:21 PM
Theres already a One Billion Dollars(Dr. Evil voice) class action started up in canada.

General Lee
05-07-11, 11:33 AM
everyone send jeff a PM about sony security

Done. :lol:

Ninja Prime
05-08-11, 02:34 PM
You joke now but we would be a world of **** if Sony decided to totally shut down the PlayStation. EVERY ****ing developer would migrate to Microsoft it would destroy Nintendo as well. So lets hope no big class action lawsuits come up.

Whatever, MS is 1000 times better than Sony and Nintendo is 1000000 times better, sony and all their cheap ass 16 bit encryption can take and acid bath as far as I'm concerned.

Sean_W
05-08-11, 03:09 PM
Whatever, MS is 1000 times better than Sony and Nintendo is 1000000 times better, sony and all their cheap ass 16 bit encryption can take and acid bath as far as I'm concerned.

Well, in the end it's what Microsoft do best. Make software and services. Their hardware sucks monkey balls though.

Sony are learning the hard way but I'm sure they will be fine.

jeffmd
05-09-11, 03:40 AM
Sony isn't going anywhere. They can absorb this incident.

MS doesn't make hardware... doesn't mean the hardware in the xbox or the 360 sucks. The PS3 and 360 both have fine hardware, and both produce visually exceptional games. The only real issue with either system was cost. After shelling out over 300 bucks or more for each system, it's only natural you become defensive when someone or something comes along and says you were wrong to do so.

As a console company, MS is doing real well. As a Gaming leader, they can still leave abit to be desired. The 360 is going fine but their pc gaming is still in disarray, and we are at the end of their 2nd generation of xlive on pc.

Sean_W
05-09-11, 09:55 AM
Sony isn't going anywhere. They can absorb this incident.

MS doesn't make hardware... doesn't mean the hardware in the xbox or the 360 sucks. The PS3 and 360 both have fine hardware, and both produce visually exceptional games. The only real issue with either system was cost. After shelling out over 300 bucks or more for each system, it's only natural you become defensive when someone or something comes along and says you were wrong to do so.

I know Microsoft does not make hardware but when the 360 was released, it was pretty lacking compared to the PS3. 360 didn't even have a HDMI output and then the HD-DVD fail. The PS3 still ended up selling pretty well, even being more expensive but better designed, Blu-ray, HDMI.

Ninja Prime
05-09-11, 12:52 PM
I know Microsoft does not make hardware but when the 360 was released, it was pretty lacking compared to the PS3. 360 didn't even have a HDMI output and then the HD-DVD fail. The PS3 still ended up selling pretty well, even being more expensive but better designed, Blu-ray, HDMI.

Yeah because whats important to my console that plays games is that it can play movies too, because games suck, right? :rolleyes:

Sean_W
05-09-11, 01:36 PM
Yeah because whats important to my console that plays games is that it can play movies too, because games suck, right? :rolleyes:

Consoles are not just games machines. they' are "entertainment systems", even more so now days because they can steam movies and such. Why bother paying for a Blu-ray player when your console can do it?

360 owners have to be happy with DVD quality, since they're stuck with it and apparently it's good enough. :rolleyes:

Ninja Prime
05-09-11, 02:03 PM
Consoles are not just games machines. they' are "entertainment systems", even more so now days because they can steam movies and such. Why bother paying for a Blu-ray player when your console can do it?

360 owners have to be happy with DVD quality, since they're stuck with it and apparently it's good enough. :rolleyes:

No, I'll just use my blu-ray player that has better quality than the PS3s blu-ray player. Sony is confused, people aren't buying a console to be an all-in-one entertainment system. High end customers, the only kind who own blu-ray players, are the ones that can afford a blu-ray player and blu-ray movies. Customers who want the cheapest and best gaming console they can get for their money don't generally care about blu-ray because the movies are twice as much and they may not even have a 1080p TV to take advantage of it. Basically, its a waste of money if you're the kind of person who buys blu-rays, and if you're not, its a waste of money that could have went into a better console.

Sean_W
05-09-11, 02:27 PM
No, I'll just use my blu-ray player that has better quality than the PS3s blu-ray player. Sony is confused, people aren't buying a console to be an all-in-one entertainment system. High end customers, the only kind who own blu-ray players, are the ones that can afford a blu-ray player and blu-ray movies. Customers who want the cheapest and best gaming console they can get for their money don't generally care about blu-ray because the movies are twice as much and they may not even have a 1080p TV to take advantage of it. Basically, its a waste of money if you're the kind of person who buys blu-rays, and if you're not, its a waste of money that could have went into a better console.

The blu-ray player is the PS3 is good quality and as for not having a 1080p TV, well it's same for the games as well, you just don't use the HDMI output. It's not just about movies, blu-ray has big size capacity. A lot of people have HD TV's now days anyway, they're cheap ,that's the point.

Tech comes down in price and if format wasn't an issue with consoles, Microsoft wouldn't have tried shipping the failed HD-DVD. Sony know what they're doing in regard to hardware and why they shipped the PS3 with blu-ray+HDMI+ black style PS3 and Microsoft shipped an out of date, cheap solution which needed addons later, which costs people more money or a new unit.

Bah!
05-09-11, 03:01 PM
No, I'll just use my blu-ray player that has better quality than the PS3s blu-ray player. Sony is confused, people aren't buying a console to be an all-in-one entertainment system. High end customers, the only kind who own blu-ray players, are the ones that can afford a blu-ray player and blu-ray movies. Customers who want the cheapest and best gaming console they can get for their money don't generally care about blu-ray because the movies are twice as much and they may not even have a 1080p TV to take advantage of it. Basically, its a waste of money if you're the kind of person who buys blu-rays, and if you're not, its a waste of money that could have went into a better console.

Did you have a smile on your face when you posted this? I'm only asking because you can't be serious. I think you are the one that's confused, not Sony. People are indeed buying consoles to be an all-in-one entertainment machine. There is a reason that both the PSN and Live! are flooded with music, videos, movies, etc. people want those things in addition to their gaming.

And FYI the PS3 is the most popular Blu-Ray player on the planet, and for a long time it was the best Blu Ray player on the market as well. There are tons of people who bought the PS3 because it also has Blu Ray, don't kid yourself. I own a stand alone Blu Ray player, and the reason's I use it over the PS3 have nothing to do with picture quality, but rather ease of use, loading speeds, and having an actual remote.

Customers who want the cheapest console bought a Wii, those who wanted the best don't care about price as much as you seem to think, and a great many of them bought PS3's.

No, a waste of money was the HD-Dvd drive for the 360, which if it had won the format war you'd be talking up. The Blu Ray drive in the PS3 has proven to be a wise investment from both a consumer and developer standpoint.

Ninja Prime
05-09-11, 06:26 PM
Customers who want the cheapest console bought a Wii, those who wanted the best don't care about price as much as you seem to think, and a great many of them bought PS3's.

Hey thanks for proving my point dude. :p

People who wanted a gaming system bought the Wii, and it won the console war this gen.

People who wanted a higher end gaming system bought the 360, and its in second place this gen.

People who wanted a blu-ray player with gaming ability bought the PS3, and its in third place.

Lesson: Gaming console is for games, blu-ray player is for movies. Sony has a dream of selling you a million dollar package with a thousand different Sony products packaged inside it, so everything you have is Sony. The reality is people just want to play some games. Could have dropped the price on the PS3 by $50 or more had they gone with DVD, and likely it would have then won over at least the 360.

Sean_W
05-09-11, 06:36 PM
Hey thanks for proving my point dude. :p

People who wanted a gaming system bought the Wii, and it won the console war this gen.

People who wanted a higher end gaming system bought the 360, and its in second place this gen.

People who wanted a blu-ray player with gaming ability bought the PS3, and its in third place.

Lesson: Gaming console is for games, blu-ray player is for movies. Sony has a dream of selling you a million dollar package with a thousand different Sony products packaged inside it, so everything you have is Sony. The reality is people just want to play some games. Could have dropped the price on the PS3 by $50 or more had they gone with DVD, and likely it would have then won over at least the 360.

Price is only one factor and you're avoiding the simple fact that blu-ray can hold more than a DVD, it's not just for playing movies you know. BTW, PS3 can play DVDs as well, so do your research.