R350 Specs!!!

[kingsna]

Release date: 2nd Quarter 2003
.13u Technology
Full 128 bit FP pipeline.
Core clock frequency estimate: 400-450Mhz
2 TMU's per Pixel Pipeline * 8
up to 32 Textures/Pass (DirectX 9.1 ???)
DDR-II at 450-500Mhz range
Effective fill rate 4.8 Giga Pixels/sec
35-40 GB/s RAW memory bandwidth
8X FSAA SS/MS
OpenGL 2.0
the rest is pretty much the same as 9700 Pro.
ESP: $399.99 128MB
$499.99 256MB

NV30 killer? Hell yea!

[darkmiasma]

link ? ... where did these come from?

[Bigus Dickus]

Originally posted by kingsna
Core clock frequency estimate: 400-450Mhz
2 TMU's per Pixel Pipeline * 8

Effective fill rate 4.8 Giga Pixels/sec


Hmm...

400MHz * 8 Pipes = 3.2 GPixels/sec, 450MHz * 8 Pipes = 3.6 GPixels/sec

400MHz * 16 TMU's = 6.4 GTexels/sec, 450MHz * 16 TMU's = 7.2 GTexels/sec

So where did 4.8 come from, and what does "effective" mean?

I smell something...

[sancheuz]

Where did you get this info from. It probably is made up. And if it's true, then this would not be an nv30 killer, it would be an nv30 match. Same thing. Which means the nv35 would destroy it.

[Uttar]

I really don't think this is based on anything serious...

And anyway, the NV30 is OpenGL 2.0 too ( and not the R300. Hehe ) - i think that's official ( seen it on a NV-accepted NV30 preview if i remember correctly )

400-450Mhz? Maybe that's what you can get by overclocking it, but considering the R300 goes up to 400Mhz, that's not so impressive IMO.

35-40 GB/s? Now that's ridiculous. I can suppose something like 25-30 could be correct, but 30-40? Out of question.


Uttar

[Fotis]

I think 500mhz ddrII x 256 bit bus is 32gb/s.Am I wrong?
Kingsna next time you make specs of your mind try to make them a bit believable!!Obviously you know nothing about graphics cards!!:rolleyes: Go home!!:p


P.S You forgot about the nano fusion reactor!!!:D

[SavagePaladin]

NV30 killer?
I debate usage of the word 'killer'
If you like driver/hardware problems, ATIs still the place to be!

Plus they look like complete rumors to me. Don't get your hopes up until the previews hit, man.
(I remember there were several NV30 rumor sets out confirmed wrong)

[DIMA]

Originally posted by darkmiasma
link ? ... where did these come from?

He got it out of his ass to annoy the people here...

Then you might as well know that the possibility for 8x2 scheme for R350 is highly unlikely, although 0.13 is likely.

Also, don't count on any DirectX 9.1 support, as DirectX 9 incorporates everything needed for future versions (what the future hardware R300 & NV30 doesn't even support!) and the next major revision of DX will be it's 10th version, with some features specifically targeted towards Longhorn.

Oh, and btw, some of your info there doesn't make sense at all, u might as well check it out again! ;)

[sancheuz]

Originally posted by DIMA


Also, don't count on any DirectX 9.1 support, as DirectX 9 incorporates everything needed for future versions (what the future hardware R300 & NV30 doesn't even support!) and the next major revision of DX will be it's 10th version, with some features specifically targeted towards Longhorn.


It is highly likely that this guy made up all those specs because he is an ati fanboy. Microsoft is going to make directx 9.1 though, read in many places. But the specs are made up, and its not an nv30 killer. there were even talks of having 1ghz ddr 2 memory in nv30, although i doubt it, but that gives you an idea, that the nv30 specs will be similar to those made up above.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by Fotis
I think 500mhz ddrII x 256 bit bus is 32gb/s.Am I wrong?
Kingsna next time you make specs of your mind try to make them a bit believable!!Obviously you know nothing about graphics cards!!:rolleyes: Go home!!:p


P.S You forgot about the nano fusion reactor!!!:D

that's what i think too. 1GHz DDR X 256bitbus = 32gig

that 40gb/sec raw bw is bs...the calculations aren't there.

[kingsna]

of course all this stuff is made up fools!

that's why forum's titled RUMOR MILL!!!
meaning we're SPECULATING!!!!

get it ????????

but you entertained me though!

[budd_wm]

That was lame...:rolleyes:

If you are gonna guess at specs, at least TRY to make it look educated (which you are obviously not).

[retsam]

:mad: gawd what an idiot :mad:

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by kingsna
of course all this stuff is made up fools!

that's why forum's titled RUMOR MILL!!!
meaning we're SPECULATING!!!!

get it ????????

but you entertained me though!

next time state whether or not the specs are merely your opinion/guess as opposed to ripped from some forum or news site as "unconfirmed rumor."

[nutball]

Originally posted by Uttar

And anyway, the NV30 is OpenGL 2.0 too ( and not the R300. Hehe ) - i think that's official ( seen it on a NV-accepted NV30 preview if i remember correctly )


NV30 might be OpenGL 2.0 capable. OpenGL 2.0 hasn't been fully specified yet, yet alone ratified by the ARB, so it's difficult to say.

There are certainly things which NV30 is not capable of ( :mad: ) that I for one would regard as highly desirable elements of the final OpenGL 2.0 specification.

So from that point-of-view I hope the capabilities of NV30 don't match OGL2.0.

I'm assuming that R300 is also incapable of these operations (the reason they aren't on NV30 is transistor budget, which is a bigger problem for the 0.15u R300 than the 0.13u NV30).

We shall see how things pan out...

[Uttar]

Originally posted by nutball
So from that point-of-view I hope the capabilities of NV30 don't match OGL2.0.

I really don't think you should see that in this way.

It's highly likely OGL2.0 will be a little like DX9 - The minimum specs pretty much are the R300 for DX9, while WAY more powerful and flexible systems are already supported.

So my guess is that the NV30 supports the minimum OGL2.0 configuration ( that would be very usefull for nV, too, so that they could easily make a workstation version to compete with 3DLabs )


Uttar

[nutball]

Originally posted by Uttar


So my guess is that the NV30 supports the minimum OGL2.0 configuration ( that would be very usefull for nV, too, so that they could easily make a workstation version to compete with 3DLabs )



Right, but OpenGL doesn't work like DX9 (or hasn't in the past). For an implementation to be OpenGL compliant it has to implement all of the functionality in the core specification. It can't pick and mix (which a DX implementation can). Maybe this will change with OGL2.0, but I sincerely hope not, as it was one of OpenGLs strengths over DX.

So basically I was hoping that the OGL2.0 specification would go for orthogonality in preference for little details such as whether a feature can be implemented in hardware right now.

I would prefer OGL2.0 to push the hardware a bit further than it already is. That was what I was meaning.

[sancheuz]

That is truly unnesesary in this forum, i feel the moderators should delete this thread. We dont need fan boys and their dumb guesses.

[Bigus Dickus]

Originally posted by sancheuz
That is truly unnesesary in this forum, i feel the moderators should delete this thread. We dont need fan boys and their dumb guesses.

Right, so all the NVIDIA fanboys and their dumb guesses as to what the NV30 will be like should also be deleted? It seems like this forum in particular is filled with them. :rolleyes:

This is, after all, the Hardware Rumor Mill forum, and as stupid as the first post may have been I don't see why his guesses are any less useful than all the ones made thus far about the NV30.

[DadGT]

Originally posted by Bigus Dickus


Right, so all the NVIDIA fanboys and their dumb guesses as to what the NV30 will be like should also be deleted? It seems like this forum in particular is filled with them. :rolleyes:

This is, after all, the Hardware Rumor Mill forum, and as stupid as the first post may have been I don't see why his guesses are any less useful than all the ones made thus far about the NV30.

NVIDIA Fanboy. That's kind of funny considering this started (and got way off topic from) a post of what the ATI R350 specs would be. Of course it did degenerate into how the (unannouced) NV30 would support the (unannounced) OGL 2.0 specs. So you have something of a point.

And you do really have a point about this being the rumormill. I certainly don't look here for any real information. Nor do I look at The Inquirer.

[Bigus Dickus]

Well, I wasn't really referencing this thread in particular, but the other dozen on this forum just like this one except making guesses about the NV30 instead of the R350.

[sancheuz]

This is a personal guess that is totally made up and nothing true about it. The nv30 guesses are educated and taken from professional annalyst and critics (anand and nvmax ect. ect) that could be true....Big Dickus, Why are you always contradicting everybody.

[volt]

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