View Full Version : Abit Siluro FX 5600 Ultra OTES.

08-21-03, 09:44 AM
I was wondering, Does anyone knew if the Siluro FX 5600U OTES has the Flip Chip or the old one...Is there a way i can tell or anything? I emailed Abit about it and they didnt reply, I'm really wanting to buy one of these puppies, but only if it has the flip chip! I know gainwards 5600U has the flip chip..the 760XP Ultra Golden sample. Or does having the Ultra mean its the flip chip? (5600 = Old, 5600Ultra = Flip Chip?)

Thanks for time ppls. :)

The Baron
08-21-03, 09:50 AM
Old 5600 Ultras are 350/350, new 5600 Ultras are 400/400.

08-21-03, 09:58 AM
On abits site it states the following...

Hardware Specification
- nVidia GeforceFX5600 Ultra GPU
- CLK : 400MHz
- .13u process technology
- AGP 8X including Fast Writes and sideband addressing
- 1.4 Billion texels/ sec fill rate
- 88 Million vertices/sec
- 11.2 GB/sec memory bandwidth
- CineFX shading architecture
- Support for DX 9 pixel shader 2.0+ and DX 9 vertex shader 2.0+
- Intellisample™ Technology
- High-Precision Graphics
- nView Multi-display Technology
- NVIDIA Digital Vibrance Control™ 3.0
- Industry-renowned NVIDIA Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)
- Daul, 400MHz RAMDACs
- 16 texels per pixel with 8 textures applied per clock
- 4 Pixels per Clock Rendering Pipeline
- Architected for Cg
- New 64-phase Video Scaler for scaling DVD and other video to full-screen HDTV resolutions.
- Video Mixing Renderer (VMR)
- 128-bit, studio-precision color
- Integrated Full Hardware MPEG-2 Decoder
- Bright NTSC/PAL TV-out support with flicker filter
- On-board DVI support up to 1600x1200 resolution
- Provides best-of-class TV-out functionality up to 1024x768 resolutions.

So that means its the Flip Chip, correct? I mean, it says CLK : 400mhz (I guess that stands for both GPU and Mem.)

Does anyone have one of these cards, How well do they perform?

08-22-03, 01:34 AM
they are like ti4200s with dx9. without aa/af both perform about equal in 3dmark and games but with aa/af the fx5600u comes way ahead, it even eats a 9600 pro in many benchmarks with and without aa/af. the only problem is those puppies are over $200, you can get a much faster 9800 pro for not much more anyway

08-22-03, 01:45 AM
Heh, the cheapest 9800pro i've seen is $350..I have exactly $220+S&H to spend.

08-22-03, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by Cha1rman
Heh, the cheapest 9800pro i've seen is $350..I have exactly $220+S&H to spend.

Bump your budget up $20, and buy a Radeon 9800 non-pro. Many of those cards can be flashed with the Pro BIOS, thereby giving you an additional speed boost and room to overclock them even more. I've seen people with 9800NP cards flash and overclock them to over 400 MHz on the core and about 360 on the memory. Stock 9800 Pro speeds are 378/337.

But whatever you do do not buy any card marked Radeon 9800SE. They might be cheaper, but they don't come with the normal 9800s 256-bit data bus and 8 pipelines.

The Baron
08-22-03, 07:12 AM
Unless you're using Linux, what Sat says is probably your best bet.

08-22-03, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by The Baron
Unless you're using Linux, what Sat says is probably your best bet.

You can use an ATI card in Linux, but only if you plan on working in 2D.

The Baron
08-22-03, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
You can use an ATI card in Linux, but only if you plan on working in 2D. I believe that 2D resolutions and refresh rates are limited with the non-ATI drivers. The Catalyst Linux drivers should fix this, but they're still in beta.

08-22-03, 01:56 PM
Well, to be honest i don't like ATi. I've had several Nvidia and ATi cards, the ATi's have always crapped out or had alot of compatibility problems. Nvidia cards have always seemed to run smoother with my system.

08-22-03, 03:49 PM
the evga can be bought for $179 after mail in rebate, thats from newegg. the gainward 760xp golden sample is guaranteed from gainward to do 450/900 I believe. any spec listing 400mhz core speed is the new flipchip

08-22-03, 10:31 PM
a ti4200 may be a good bet, no im not telling you what to get, I only will mention it. theres no dx9 games yet. a ti4200 now then 2 years from now a new card :) another option is a fx5600 NON ultra 256mb, you can get one off ebay for $130 to $150, those cards are like ti500s with dx9 though

08-22-03, 11:12 PM
I have a PNY ti4200, I'm looking to upgrade..even if its a little bit. From this benchmark the 5600U looks good to me..http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030714/vga_card_guide-12.html

08-23-03, 06:53 AM
save your money and wait, the performance differences dont justify the price. wait till 2005, ill be waiting perhaps to 2007 seeing how good a ti4200 is anyway

08-23-03, 09:47 AM
Heh, this ti4200 isnt good really...I love Dungeon siege, with NO AA or AF i get 30-50 fps at 1024x768 32bpp. I bet a 5600U could do it with 2x AA and 4-8x AF with 60+fps..That's what i'm hoping anyways.