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noomski
08-30-03, 07:51 AM
I have been asked by a friend who is not on the net to enquire about an
upgrade for his dell p.c. The dell he is currently using is running off
the onboard sound and graphics of his mother board. He understands the
benefits of a powerfull nvidia but the back plates of the pci slots are
much shorter than that of a standard p.c. and therefore needs to have a
slimmer card to fit the slot can anyone out there recommend a powerfull
card at reasonable price (preferably an nvidia) that would suit the
purpose, and any hyperlink for a site that sells them would be
appreciated.

Dazz
08-30-03, 08:00 AM
Can you give the system model number? Like Dell Dimension 7100 or something?

noomski
08-30-03, 09:40 AM
thanks for your reply, i dont know the exact model number because it's not my p.c. it belongs to a friend but it appears to be: Small Form Factor (SF) Chassis
The smallest OptiPlex chassis available with LegacySelect options to further customize for your environment. (taken from the dell website) the back metal plate of the card would have to be shorter than standard p.c's in order to fit. http://www.euro.dell.com/countries/uk/enu/dfo/products/line_desktops.htm
it's the one on the right.

noomski
08-30-03, 09:41 AM
it also says, regarding the pci slots,
Expansion Slots: One low-profile PCI slot (2.5" h x 6.6" l)

noomski
08-30-03, 10:10 AM
it also says, regarding the pci slots,
Expansion Slots: One low-profile PCI slot (2.5" h x 6.6" l)

Dazz
08-30-03, 12:19 PM
SO i take it, it's the desktop one, (one with monitor ontop) you won't find many or powerfull gfx cards for half hieght PCI. The only one that comes to mind is the PCI Geforce MX420.

Found these two.

http://www.directron.com/aopen400se.html
http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322438

I know for a fat the Aopen card is a low profile card.
The Aopen MX440 SE V64 PCI Video Card is nVIDIA Geforce 4 MX440 SE 4X Chipsets, nVIDIA LMA II-with 128-bit 64MB DDR, Support PCI. Convertible to half-height, low-profile by changing the hanger. Part NO. 91.05210.4S3. Retail box.

GlowStick
08-31-03, 03:03 AM
Yes, unfortuantly Half Height cards are usually in the value sector. But the reason for that is usually computers that use half height form factor are really slow to begin with, so he may consider useing what he has then upgrade when he feels confident that he can get a good deal.

noomski
08-31-03, 06:50 AM
thanks for the pointers. you've been a great help. One thing i think i left out though is that one of his free slots is an AGP (i notice that both cards are pci) the reason i mentioned pci was with reference to the back plates of the slots, which i must admit i'd never come accross before my friend came to me with the problem, sorry. so basically he needs one AGP graphics card & one pci sound card. sorry for the confusion and thanks once again for your help.

kirankumarp
08-31-03, 07:21 AM
hai
i think you are refering to optiplex GX 60 so in GX 60 with SFF chasis they have four 4 pci slots if u r opting for riser in motherboard otherwise it is one and one is normal pci 2.2(32bit 33Mhz) and another one is PCI -X if the riser is there it has two normal PCI slots 2.2(32 bit 33Mhz) two PCI slots; half-length cards are supported (card size = 10.67 cm [4.2 inches] high by 17.65 cm [6.95 inches] long) i think this comes with not this chasis probably with small desktop computer(SDC) and here the video is integrated 845Gl video
and all pci is 120 pins

Dazz
08-31-03, 02:03 PM
I found a half height AGP video card, but it's only a review might want to look on www.pricewatch.com for it http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1349
I can't seem to find any half height sound cards.

ragejg
08-31-03, 06:15 PM
;)

heh, I had a dell of a friend's who wanted a better vidcard for his P3/866... and I ended up using a sawzall and tin snips to cut a slot out for a full height... I shined it up good and made a plastic platform with glued legs to put on it (which I painted to match the case)... So now instead of being limited to half height, full height cards can be used!! An FX5200 sits in it for now, but I'm sure I'll throw something better than that in there around christmas time, as the guy who owns it will probably keep the pc for a while...

On a side note but still on topic, I really do believe that Sapphire makes a radeon 9100 half height... some with 64 bit memory access, some with 128 bit memory access... Obviously I'd go for the 128 bit variety, which performs @ GF3 levels basically :) ...

Dazz
09-01-03, 04:30 AM
Just looked and came across one but it's with 64bit memory :( http://www.hightech.com.hk/html/9200SE.htm