God Bless America

[LORD-eX-Bu]

I don't agree with everything my government does, but I respect my country. I love my country and I can truly say that I am willing to die for it. I was not born in the US, but I immigrated here and the United States has been so good to me that I owe everything that I have to my country, and most of all my GOD. I beleive that every ethnic and religious group has something to offer to everyone, just finding it is the hard part. There are those who pervert the ways of all beleif systems to fullfil their own wicked and selfish desires. That I hate, I love my country and my president. I bear arms for my country, all I ask if for my leaders and President to deploy me wisely, and in a justified action. I ask to be put to use, to bear arms for my country and defend its interests, which are my interests, for those interests are not just economic or political, those interests I see walking down the street every day, I talk to them and love them for who they are, not what they do. I love my country and what it has offered me, all I ask is to be used in a manner which will be most effective to my nation's cause. All I ask is for my opportunity to pay back my debt to my country with my blood, sweat, and tears, and even my life if it so happens. I am, and always will be, an American.

[sytaylor]

God Bless England...

something not said as much, in fact hell, i'm not even religious! i'm just sick of this god bless america stuff... really the arrogance of an all being all creating, all loving god blessing one nation :rolleyes: i really think that saying needs revising to "I love america" than at least its reflective of a person not a religous cult

[ExitWound]

The word "God" as it applies to "God Bless America" and "In God We Trust" and "One Nation, Under God" is a generic God. Since nearly 95% of the world believes in some sort of god, and since America does not force one specific God, the term relates to the infinite religions that exist in the country, and respects them all. The term is considered nonoffensive to nearly everyone and without it, the people said, the phrases sounded bare and unimportant. I'm non-religious, and do not believe in a god, yet I don't find the terms offensive or feel that religion is being forced on me.

God Bless America is not arrogant, but just a saying the country has adopted that is now well known. If you'd like to say "God Bless England", fine.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by nazistguy
I think it is nonsense to die for a country. If I had to chose, I would save myself and my family, and the country could go to hell.

you're forgetting that the quality of your life, as well as that of your family's, is related to what country you live in.

[ExitWound]

I ignore all of his threads and posts. His name, profile, and quote says it all. :rolleyes:

[pelly]

I think it is nonsense to die for a country. If I had to chose, I would save myself and my family, and the country could go to hell.

I'd love for you to tell that to my Grandfather, or my father......hell, any of the thousands of unselfish soldiers who had enough courage to put their life on the line to preserve the quality of life for other Americans...

Yare an absolute coward.....choosing to flea instead of fight because you are too selfish to do anything for anyone except yourself...

Come to the US....tell someone here about your opinion and see what happens...God knows, if you told me in person, you'd be picking your sorry ass off the ground.

What a waste of space... :rolleyes:

[SnakeEyes]

I respect your opinion nazistguy. However, I disagree, though my own beliefs are based on my family too.

You must remember that the freedoms and priviledges that many of us enjoy weren't won by people fighting to simply protect their families, at least not directly. The people fought for a way of life for all people in their country, and in so doing helped cement the guarantee that this way of life would continue to exist for their families too. Individuals fighting their own fights have less of an effect than a group of people fighting for their beliefs.

The countries where people haven't been or aren't willing to stand up and fight to protect the country mostly have histories of being overrun by other aggressive nations, subjugated, and had their freedoms stripped. Often, even the right to leave for another land with more freedoms was taken from them.

In order for my family to continue to live with the rights and freedoms we have now, I will glady sacrifice myself for my country if needed. This way my country will survive, and my family (and offspring) can continue to enjoy these priviledges and this way of life.

God Bless America. :)

[pelly]

I think it is nonsense to die for a country. If I had to chose, I would save myself and my family, and the country could go to hell.

If I had to choose, things would be very bad. So, I would prefer to move to a country in a better situation, if I had this option, than fighting for a better future for it but risking my family's life. That's what I meant .

Start music.......One of these things is not... like... the other.....

That's why I post in a forum, where , at least I thought, my opinion would be respected as any other

If you come in here saying that the sacrifice people have made for their country with their lies is nonsense....you shouldn't be surprised with negative responses...

No matter how many times you edit each post......you already said what you meant...and you can't expect to be able to do a 180 degree change...

I've wasted enough of my time with you troll....

:rolleyes:

[saturnotaku]

Originally posted by nazistguy
That's why I post in a forum, where , at least I thought, my opinion would be respected as any other (or "cowardly hiding myself from being beaten and keep saying any BS" :) , no offense :) ).

We do respect your opinion. And now you have to respect our opinion that you're a coward.

It's truly sad that there are many other people like yourself around the world who share your beliefs.

It's because America has fought for what we believe are fundamental rights and privileges that, in just 200 years we've come further than most nations have in thousands. I think this is a mixed blessing in some respects but the USA is still a hell of a place to be. :)

[Matthyahuw]

God Bless America.Amen

[Spectral]

Every government has their issues, but keeping millions and millions of people organized and an economic system running flawlessly is impossible.

9/11 was a tragedy, and if it came right down to it, I would fight for my country as well. I do appreciate the freedoms that were bestowed upon us by so many others who lost their lives fighting for our civil liberties... For people to mock that is sickening.

[pelly]

I can't resist the urge to show everyone what a troll this guy really is...
Open mouth....insert foot.....

I think it is nonsense to die for a country
Brace yourself folks, we're about to turn 180 degrees...
Well, interpret the way you want. If you wish that I meant sacrice is none sense, good.

What is there to interpret? You said it is nonsense to die for a country...
I'll be waiting for you to backpedal faster than a mongoose on speed...

[JamesDax]

Personally I'd rather LIVE for my country, my family and myself.

God Bless America.....huh, yeah whatever. The very idea that God favors this country, THIS COUNTRY, more then any other is just ridiculous.

9/11/01 was a terrible and tragic day will be remembered by all. But I sure as hell don't need all this patriotic bull**** and propaganda shoved down my throat.

[Spectral]

What are you talking about.. who said anything about God favoring America more.

Just because we say God Bless America doesnt mean anything.
Ever said, "Bless you" to someone who sneezed? What, ...does that automatically mean that God loves them more than everyone else... Jeez, you anti-God people are psycho.

Relax.. Of course you would rather LIVE for your country, you expect everything free and dont want to pay any price for the liberties you enjoy. Just keep on leeching off of the people. Why work for your country either while youre at it. Why not just take to the streets and beg.

Some people

:rolleyes:

[sbp]

Today is a day to reflect on what happened just a year ago. If a person wishes to partake in such activities, that's fine. If a person chooses not to, that's fine. Is this too much to understand?

If someone doesn't want to be patriotic they don't have to be. If someone doesn't want to observe this occurance they don't have to, but leave those who do alone. Furthermore, love for country doesn't mean blind support & obedience for government. Capishe? And finally it is a damn shame some don't appreciate something until its gone or under attack. http://www.pcabusers.net/forums/images/icons/headshaker.gif

http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/GodblessUSflag.jpg

[Phyre]

I would just like to say that I liked the original post and am all for "God Bless America." I thought it was a good start to a thread on remembrance.

I also find it utterly disgusting that some of the American posters here would ridicule some one who openly states in his post that he would willingly die for his countrymen and country. You heartless and thankless people are the reason why people who have foundationed bliefs are shot down by so many. You can use your right to free speech, but let a person who doesn't believe as you say something with which you don't agree. You shoot them down without the least bit of consideration or conscience. Yet, there are people who have and who would die for your right to do this.

I apologize if this was the wrong thing to do. But, I stand by every day listening to such meaningless talk. If they can take a stand, then so can we who care about this nation and are willing to die for it.

You're welcome,
Phyre

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by JamesDax
Personally I'd rather LIVE for my country, my family and myself.

God Bless America.....huh, yeah whatever. The very idea that God favors this country, THIS COUNTRY, more then any other is just ridiculous.

9/11/01 was a terrible and tragic day will be remembered by all. But I sure as hell don't need all this patriotic bull**** and propaganda shoved down my throat.

this is my point! i don't think there is anything, anything at all with wanting your country to do well, be sucessful. I have absolutley no doubt in my mind any other country would react so strongly to being hit such a massive blow. I am not insulting or denying that in any way shape form or creedance!

What i am saying is that "god bless america" gets too much, its all over british tv, i'm pretty certain its everywhere else in the world. No other country says "god bless [country here]", because blessing a nation is so far removed from an idea of god its just silly. King henry the 8th of england tried to make his own religion, which is frowned upon by catholcism, why should america put their own twist on it too?

"god bless the people that died", "god bless those left behind", those are not my beefs, in fact i have tonnes of respect for that

but blessing a nation seems like a pointless activity and is pure propagander... its like saying

"god bless my house and nobody elses"... why bless just that which you are close to all the time? american people are no more important than anyone else, why is the country made out to be as such? money and power have nothing to do with everyone on earth being treaten in a similar vein regardless of geographical location

[StealthHawk]

since when does "God bless America" articulate to "God blesses only America?" if that's how you want to interpret it, then fine. but i doubt many other people would agree with your assessment.

What i am saying is that "god bless america" gets too much, its all over british tv, i'm pretty certain its everywhere else in the world. No other country says "god bless [country here]", because blessing a nation is so far removed from an idea of god its just silly. King henry the 8th of england tried to make his own religion, which is frowned upon by catholcism, why should america put their own twist on it too?

yeah, in some other countries they would say "God bless the Queen." :rolleyes:

although i don't want to fuel a pissing match over religion, i feel the need to point out that King Henry 8 may have had his own selfish reasons for breaking away from the Roman Catholic Church(two big ones are evident), but at the same time, he reformed some of the corrupt practices of said church.

America isn't "creating" anything. do you have any idea how many different denominations of Christianity there are

[ExitWound]

The word "God" as it applies to "God Bless America" and "In God We Trust" and "One Nation, Under God" is a generic God. Since nearly 95% of the world believes in some sort of god, and since America does not force one specific God, the term relates to the infinite religions that exist in the country, and respects them all.


If i said that "Psychosy is special", does that mean that everyone else was not special? If I said "Jimmy got an A in gym class", does that mean that everyone else didn't? Why do you assume that "God Bless America" has ANYTHING to do with other countries? It doesn't mean that God doesn't bless britain, or zimbabwe, or even Qatar or Djibouti! It just means what I've stated above. It's a generic God. All Gods. It doesn't mean that all other countries are not blessed.

[styles-T]

I like how people tend to bash this country when they make a living off of it.
America has many opportunities to offer. Hence people migrating from so many different countries. For you to say to any retort towrads the saying of God Bless America is very silly. Cause with out that American job and that American lifestyle your living you would probably would be struggling in another country to put food on your families table.
Im not into politics. Im not very fond of the government but I am very humble and proud to be apart of this country. I think its as close to perfect as its going to get from any stand point in the world. If I had to abosuletly do it - I would die trying for my countries freedom.

You also tend to forget how America is a lending hand to other nations - lending millions and billions of dollars to countries who have economic problems...

God Bless America - on and on..

[Karrde]

Most religions worship a God. When saying "God Bless America", it is referring to that God, because there is only one.

Also, God blesses ALL nations. Say God Bless England, that works too. Just because people are saying God Blesses one country, it DOES NOT MEAN that he doesn't Bless others. People who think that are just not thinking straight.

[JamesDax]

Thank GOD it's 9/12.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Originally posted by JamesDax
Thank GOD it's 9/12.

You make me sick. For me every day is like 9/11. I will never let go of the feelings I got when I saw our wonderful and great nation attacked by radical fundamentalist cowards. I would die protecting any of you, beleive me, otherwise I would not do what I do. And I am an immigrant, I am not born here naturally, and still, this is my home, this is my country, and this is where I will raise my family and nurture them in freedom.

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by Karrde
Most religions worship a God. When saying "God Bless America", it is referring to that God, because there is only one.

Also, God blesses ALL nations. Say God Bless England, that works too. Just because people are saying God Blesses one country, it DOES NOT MEAN that he doesn't Bless others. People who think that are just not thinking straight.

Ok but surley there is a better thing to shove in the face of the rest of the world as a form of resolve than "god bless our country"... bush goes on about freedom so much, surley it would be far more sensible to have "God bless freedom" with an american flag in the background, showing america championing it? There seems to be a lot of fussed kicked around when someone acts in "an anti american way", but the fact is the whole world is not anti american, its just americas attitude politically is frustrating and arrogant, and its sayings like "God bless america" that really tipify it. The idea that if i don't like something about America i should get out is sheer nationalism. I genuinley like America, hell i've been there tonnes of times and intend to go back!

[PsychoSy]

Originally posted by JamesDax
Thank GOD it's 9/12.

This is about the smartest response in this whole damn thread!

Yesterday, I kept the TV off instead of the usual routine of forcing myself to digest a 6-10 hour Fox News/CNN barrage because I knew what they were going to devote their airtime to - crying and weeping and remembering of what happened a year ago. Boo hoo hoo. I couldn't find a damn thing on TV worth watching yesterday because of it so I kept the sonofbitch turned off!

All these idiots parading around..."this is a day of remembrance" and all that crap. How in the heck can it be a "day of remembrance" when every person, every reporter, and every channel made damn sure that we never got a chance to FORGET about 9/11 over the past 365 days?!? If find it revolting, insulting, and pretentious. Aside from Americas arrogrance and pride, they aren't that goddamned stupid, OK? Nobody will ever forget 9/11 - that's a fact, therefore there is no reason to parade the day around dubbing it as some "official" day of remembrance and devoting all the day's worth of television time to Dateline NBC-style news magazines, interviews with the families of the victims, etc.

Fox News, as I write this at 5:58AM on 9/12, still has a damn scrawl graphic on the bottom of the screen - "9/11 The Day America Changed" and can't at least ONE PERSON in America's billions of citizens call up Fox News and tell them, "Hey Corky! Do you know what day today is?!? It's 9/12 already and your day of remembrace is OVERWITH!!"

I'm sorry folks, but...Is this America? A nation of filled to the brim of outmoded, constantly grieving, enduringly vacous, "let's slap each other on the ass and feel sorry for ourselves and each other because have nothing better to do today than to have a national pity party together just so when can cry some more and feel better about ourselves" lot of pathetic sissies?!? GET IT OFF MY TV!! I'm tired of hearing about it! In fact, I was tired of hearing about it last Christmas. Furthermore, it just makes me really ticked off.

Oh, and that podium stuff yesterday at ground zero? Pathetic. Oooh boy - let's put a stage and podium in that hole in ground, turn on the cameras, and invite everbody to our little pity party! YAY!! That made me sick.

Why?

If you have the got the energy, the resolve, the spirit, the testiticular fortitude, to get off your dead ass and join the rest of the flag waving mourning crew down at ground zero yesterday in a "day of remembrance", then you have the energy, the resolve, the spirit, the testiticular fortitude to get off your dead ass and join the REST OF AMERICA at any moment, any time, any day of the year.

Seriously, if that same degree of energy and spirit I witnessed yesterday in the 10 minutes I actually watched TV was applied and used by ALL Americas every single day, we could achieve so much and make this country a lot better.

But no...I'm convinced that I'm surrounded by clueless American sissies who only feel patriotic when it's convenient, when there's a tax break to be had, when there's some political freak that desperately needs re-election, when there's a crisis. And the only think the news did yesterday was serve to convince me of that notion even futher.

I hate to be so critical folks but if this display of American pride could ALSO be displayed on days OTHER THAN 9/11, then we wouldn't have to worry about our rights and freedoms being reduced to the equivilent to a roll of Charmin and not just by terrorists by but OUR OWN PEOPLE. Hey, maybe...just maybe...there wouldn't be arsenic in our tap water, or the DMCA, or Windows Product Activation, $4 a gallon gas prices, $70 phone bills, and other things in this country that we really don't like but are too damned lazy get off our dead asses and change them by raising hell.