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Muppet
03-11-12, 04:57 AM
If that's the case, it will be interesting to see how it works.

AthlonXP1800
03-11-12, 04:32 PM
It now 12 March 2012 in china time, still no early review or benchmarks but Expreview mention one more thing that GK104 cooler will have vapor chamber design. :)

http://en.expreview.com/2012/03/12/nvidia-equips-kepler-gk104-with-vapor-chamber-design/21804.html

Johnny C
03-12-12, 12:51 AM
It now 12 March 2012 in china time, still no early review or benchmarks but Expreview mention one more thing that GK104 cooler will have vapor chamber design. :)

http://en.expreview.com/2012/03/12/nvidia-equips-kepler-gk104-with-vapor-chamber-design/21804.html

Indicating it's probably hot as hell...

MUYA
03-12-12, 01:01 AM
Indicating it's probably hot as hell...

Seriously???

Muppet
03-12-12, 01:25 AM
Shouldn't be long now for the first reviews.

Roadhog
03-12-12, 01:28 AM
Shouldn't be long now for the first reviews.

says who?

Redeemed
03-12-12, 01:30 AM
says who?

Apparently it was Muppet who said that. It shows his name just off to the left of his post.

Geez, what a newb.

:p

Muppet
03-12-12, 01:32 AM
Apparently it was Muppet who said that. It shows his name just off to the left of his post.

Geez, what a newb.

:p

Haha, well said.

From everything I have read, rewiews are supposed to be due out on the 12th. Launch is the 23rd, if I remember correctly. That is what has been said anyway.

AthlonXP1800
03-12-12, 01:49 AM
Expreview show off GK104 core die.

http://www.expreview.com/img/news/2012/03/12/nvidia-k104-core-2.jpg

http://www.expreview.com/img/news/2012/03/12/nvidia.jpg

http://www.expreview.com/18731.html

It slight bigger than G92 core die.

I googled G92-421-B1, it wasn't G92 but actually it is 55nm G92b core on GeForce GTS 250 cards so it slight bigger than 231mm2. It is incredible much smaller than Radeon HD 7970's 365mm2.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2388&page=2

I think poor AMD will have a very hard time compete with Nvidia this year after Bulldozer horrible performance and Llano yield disaster in 2011.

MUYA
03-12-12, 02:52 AM
Not necessarily but, I am looking forward to the pre-reviews later on today

Johnny C
03-12-12, 08:54 AM
Seriously???

That's a big cooler for a very small chip.

Let's hope that it's to keep it icy cool....and not to tame the heat down.

Redeemed
03-12-12, 10:02 AM
That's a big cooler for a very small chip.

Let's hope that it's to keep it icy cool....and not to tame the heat down.

Logic would dictate that nVidia, wanting to keep production costs as low as possible, would go with the least expensive yet fully functional cooling solution they can. If the chip is as small as reported, but nVidia felt it needed such a cooling solution to keep the temperatures in line, odds are it is indeed a very hot chip.

Or, it has tons of head room and like AMD nVidia will start listing it's OC ability as a feature.

AthlonXP1800
03-12-12, 01:07 PM
it seemed Nvidia Security Agency had took Expreview link down but I am surprised the pics still up. Thankfully I saved all pics in case they took all pics down. :)

I found new info from a employee of a retail PC company had a EVGA mini presentation of GTX 680 2 days ago, EVGA rep confirmed that retail GTX 680 will have 2x6 pins power, 22nd March hard launch date, 190W TDP and finally got MSRP price of $550.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1225986/tpu-geforce-gtx-680-features-speed-boost-arrives-this-month-etc-etc/400#post_16691060

Roadhog
03-12-12, 02:01 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16128419.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li4w6xLcQX1qbqt8go1_500.png

Logical
03-12-12, 02:48 PM
:lol: Lol

Johnny C
03-12-12, 03:06 PM
it seemed Nvidia Security Agency had took Expreview link down but I am surprised the pics still up. Thankfully I saved all pics in case they took all pics down. :)

I found new info from a employee of a retail PC company had a EVGA mini presentation of GTX 680 2 days ago, EVGA rep confirmed that retail GTX 680 will have 2x6 pins power, 22nd March hard launch date, 190W TDP and finally got MSRP price of $550.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1225986/tpu-geforce-gtx-680-features-speed-boost-arrives-this-month-etc-etc/400#post_16691060

It's not faster than the 7970 then...or it would cost more money.

AthlonXP1800
03-12-12, 04:52 PM
http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/20120312cookie.jpg

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmuropaketti.com%2Ftoimitus-ja-blogi%2Ftestilabrassa-nvidian-ke&act=url

Maybe review will coming up later today.

AthlonXP1800
03-12-12, 08:09 PM
GTX 680 will win performance per watt against Radeon HD 7970 at same price.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26295-nvidia-gtx-680-to-go-against-hd-7970

mojoman0
03-12-12, 08:53 PM
so this march 12 thing was just a rumor or what?

Muppet
03-12-12, 09:21 PM
so this march 12 thing was just a rumor or what?

Reviews were supposed to be out on the 12th and a release date of the 23rd. At least that is what has been said on a few sites.

MUYA
03-12-12, 10:00 PM
Apparently no reviews till March 22/23 when NDA lifts

Today was apaprently a...erm I dunno press day only?

Would have been nice to get some more info

apart from it being a 680 with 1536 CCs and 2GB mem (at 256 bit mem interface)
Similar performance to 7970 (dunno what res and settings) i.e., win some, lose some
TDP at less than 200W
$550 apparently (fricking hope not)

Muppet
03-12-12, 10:09 PM
Very disappointed if that pricing is right. This was only supposed to be a mid range product and even if it is as fast as the 7970, no way should it be as expensive. Does that mean that the high end 110 is around the 1k mark. If Nvidia's priced it that high, they missed out on a really big opportunity to really win this round.

MUYA
03-12-12, 11:28 PM
NV may have upped the tempo with better compression techniques etc to save on bandwidth or even like 7XXX series adopted PRT techniques etc. I dunno about Rambus or E-dram

MUYA
03-12-12, 11:55 PM
Anything like new compression techniques sound propitiatory and run the risk of not being widely adopted by any games that don't bear the TWIMTBP badge and could further polarise the red and green camps based on title support. Like propitiatory physics technologies, this would not be good for the industry IMHO.




What are u talking about?
All IHV have had in their GPUS some form of compression techniques to save bandwidth for several generations now! Color compression/depth compression algorithms to save on bandwidth. This is all internal and not transparent to whatever shader code being churned in the CC units!

MUYA
03-13-12, 12:10 AM
Color compression/depth compression has nothing to do with TWIMTBP type coding/optimizing in game code.

256 bit memory interface but based on leaked specs. the GK 104 still has 192 Gb/s is nothing to be sneezed at. Same as 580 GTX