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Muppet
03-20-12, 12:58 AM
I have just heard from my local supplier that they will have stock in of Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and EVGA early next week. That usually means Tuesday. So it sounds like there will be a good first up supply of hardware.

Roadhog
03-20-12, 12:59 AM
I have just heard from my local supplier that they will have stock in of Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and EVGA early next week. That usually means Tuesday. So it sounds like there will be a good first up supply of hardware.

price?

MUYA
03-20-12, 01:28 AM
An arm and a leg?

Muppet
03-20-12, 02:04 AM
price?

Unfortunately, that was the one thing he didn't have. But down here Hardware is expensive. US$500 cards are US$700 here. :(
That's what you get when you live so far away from the US and Europe.

Muppet
03-20-12, 02:33 AM
http://www.geforce.com/News/articles/epic-shows-samaritan-demo-running-on-next-generation-nvidia-kepler-gpu

Redeemed
03-20-12, 02:33 AM
Unfortunately, that was the one thing he didn't have. But down here Hardware is expensive. US$500 cards are US$700 here. :(
That's what you get when you live so far away from the US and Europe.

You're more than welcome to move over here, bro. :p

I'm watching the 7870 right now, but likely wont even considering purchasing a card until a month from now... at the earliest. Gives nVidia time to produce some competition. If this GTX680 is the contender against the 7970, doing as well as is rumored and being as power efficient as rumored... I'm *very* interested in what nVidia has to compete against the 7800s. If nVidia puts out a card that performs like the 7970, while consuming as much power and costing as much as the 7870... I just may go nVidia this round. :)

AthlonXP1800
03-20-12, 06:53 AM
MSI Geforce GTX 680 marketing materials

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-03-20/msi_gtx680_lpl04.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-03-20/msi_gtx680_lpl01.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-03-20/msi_gtx680_lpl02.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-03-20/msi_gtx680_lpl03.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/162685/MSI-Slips-Out-Some-GeForce-GTX-680-Marketing-Material.html

weeds
03-20-12, 11:48 AM
Toms review pics were accidently posted. Saved thanks to
GoldenTiger

http://imgur.com/a/RCDqK

|MaguS|
03-20-12, 11:54 AM
Another place to look at Toms Review!
http://www.overclock.net/t/1231711/toms-geforce-gtx-680-review

Looks like the rumors might have been true... dam I can't wait to get one of these!

Ninja Prime
03-20-12, 12:49 PM
Another place to look at Toms Review!
http://www.overclock.net/t/1231711/toms-geforce-gtx-680-review

Looks like the rumors might have been true... dam I can't wait to get one of these!

Ehh, looking around the NV benchmark rules BS, it looks on par with 7970 at the same price. I'm sure it will win in any NV-canted benches, but it will probably lose in bandwidth-limited cases and memory hog cases that go beyond 2Gbs limit. Pretty meh from my PoV.

A lot of those numbers look like a real load too... showing 7970 only 10% faster than 580? Only 17% more efficent? IIRC 7970 is about 56% more efficent than a 580 and at least 25-30% faster.

Also whats up with the 1080 benches, top end card, benching at below top end resolutions...

Roadhog
03-20-12, 01:03 PM
It looks pretty good to me. But that is toms hardware... I'll wait till Hardocp, TPU, or anandtech to judge it.
Does look to have good perf/watt, however.

However, it's still not a card for me(Sucks in compute).

|MaguS|
03-20-12, 01:31 PM
Ehh, looking around the NV benchmark rules BS, it looks on par with 7970 at the same price. I'm sure it will win in any NV-canted benches, but it will probably lose in bandwidth-limited cases and memory hog cases that go beyond 2Gbs limit. Pretty meh from my PoV.

A lot of those numbers look like a real load too... showing 7970 only 10% faster than 580? Only 17% more efficent? IIRC 7970 is about 56% more efficent than a 580 and at least 25-30% faster.

Also whats up with the 1080 benches, top end card, benching at below top end resolutions...

Because about 90% of people game at or around 1080p? Lets me honest, how many people actually have a monitor that goes higher then 1920x1200? Very few.

Ninja Prime
03-20-12, 02:09 PM
Because about 90% of people game at or around 1080p? Lets me honest, how many people actually have a monitor that goes higher then 1920x1200? Very few.

You're right. Lets also be honest, how many games need this card or a 7970 to run at 1920x1200 at max settings? I can't think of any.

|MaguS|
03-20-12, 02:31 PM
You're right. Lets also be honest, how many games need this card or a 7970 to run at 1920x1200 at max settings? I can't think of any.

Not many but for me the upgrade comes at a dramatic power and heat savings. That's why I am interested in the new card.

Vardant
03-20-12, 02:33 PM
Also whats up with the 1080 benches, top end card, benching at below top end resolutions...
Every game test also included results from 2560x1600, Kepler still wins.

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|MaguS|
03-20-12, 03:03 PM
Wonder how well they would scale in SLi. I hope nvidia made some improvements there.

Blacklash
03-20-12, 03:41 PM
I know overclocking is luck of the draw and I can't wait to see how they do in that regard anyway.

i SPY
03-20-12, 03:45 PM
It looks ok, but its not worth 500$+, 7970 ain't either. Both feel like cheap ripoffs to me..

Nvidia needs to set a price 350-380$ and its a win win, AMD is forced to lower prices and us customers will really appreciate it.. I bet NV will too since they will sell like hot cakes..


lol now i kinda feel sorry for my 570 and want something stronger xD, but not for 500$ that's for sure. If it were 2x 570perf then yeah, but not for ~ 40-50% boost. A OC to 900mhz lowers that gap to 20-30% (lee)

And what happened to that huge 4+tflops pref.?
It looks disappointing in direct compute/openCL, dunno how it will run U4E dx11 efficiently. Ok at TXAA (2xaa pref. hit) it could, but i bet AMD 7970 will do a better job :p


About OC, its already hitting 83C at stock freq., i doubt if there is much room left unless you put it under water.(snow=D)

Roadhog
03-20-12, 04:21 PM
sounds like it's going to suck at higher res...
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038514780&postcount=33

Vardant
03-20-12, 04:21 PM
Nvidia needs to set a price 350-380$ and its a win win, AMD is forced to lower prices and us customers will really appreciate it.. I bet NV will too since they will sell like hot cakes..They can't, for the same reason AMD can't, availability. They will sell like hot cakes anyway and for a much better price for them.

And what happened to that huge 4+tflops pref.?
It looks disappointing in direct compute/openCL, dunno how it will run U4E dx11 efficiently. Ok at TXAA (2xaa pref. hit) it could, but i bet AMD 7970 will do a better job :pIt's limited, like Fermi cards were for the most part. Quadro/Tesla cards are "unlocked".


About OC, its already hitting 83C at stock freq., i doubt if there is much room left unless you put it under water.(snow=D)1300Mhz+, is what I've been told.

sounds like it's going to suck at higher res...:rolleyes:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2538276&postcount=247

Johnny C
03-20-12, 04:32 PM
Every game test also included results from 2560x1600, Kepler still wins.

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Wins by a narrow margin and is reviewed by Tom's. Does anyone still consider them reputable?

I was really hoping for a 25% lead from the 680....that way 670 and 7970 prices would be affordable.

Roadhog
03-20-12, 04:38 PM
They can't, for the same reason AMD can't, availability. They will sell like hot cakes anyway and for a much better price for them.
It's limited, like Fermi cards were for the most part. Quadro/Tesla cards are "unlocked".

1300Mhz+, is what I've been told.

:rolleyes:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2538276&postcount=247

Toms hardware is hardly a reputable source... You can't possible take their reviews serious.

i SPY
03-20-12, 04:48 PM
They can't, for the same reason AMD can't, availability. They will sell like hot cakes anyway and for a much better price for them.
It's limited, like Fermi cards were for the most part. Quadro/Tesla cards are "unlocked".

1300Mhz+, is what I've been told.

:rolleyes:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2538276&postcount=247

lol what is this, court hearing? :rofl


I doubt they will sell so good at that price.. And besides both 7970 and "680"GTX AREN'T worth 500$ compared to last gen..


That's not what i heard about tflops. 4tflops cant be limited like that.. Otherwise AMD would be even more limited with 3.8tfllops @7970. Unless that by nv is much much lower and that 4tflop leak was another poor marketing gimmick..


You can forget +300mhz on air, ok on water maybe but not on air if its already hitting 83C by default..

Johnny C
03-20-12, 04:49 PM
Already cross referenced the 7970 vs 580 numbers and they're BS....so I put no faith in the 680 numbers either.

Like here: http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=35070

vs

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=43731&d=1332268531

As you can see, real numbers show the 680 beating the 7970 by 1.4fps

And
http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=35065

vs

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=43730&d=1332268531

Roadhog
03-20-12, 04:51 PM
More proof that toms is bs... 590, 6990, and 580 all stay about the same, while the 7970 and 7950 just happen to lose almost 10fps? lol

http://i.imgur.com/fIyef.jpg