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KasuCode
09-06-03, 08:17 AM
whats the diff between the
5900 non ultra $399
and the 5900 non ultra value $299
can anyone find a link to a bench or something with a value 5900

Rytr
09-06-03, 08:31 AM
If you are referring to the 5900SE it has 2.8ns rated ram compared to the Hynix 2.2ns. The 5900SE clock timings are reported to be 350/700.

ragejg
09-06-03, 09:32 AM
//me wonders how it performs vs. a 5800 regular...

KasuCode
09-06-03, 10:10 AM
off by 6ns or so
is that really going to make that much of a diff
i just wonder how the scores are compared to 5900 ultra an reg 5900

CaptNKILL
09-06-03, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by morethanonecode
off by 6ns or so
is that really going to make that much of a diff
i just wonder how the scores are compared to 5900 ultra an reg 5900
I would be more conserned about its performance in relation to ATI's cards in that price range (9800non-pro and 9800SE). If it can perform like the 9800 non-pro AND sell for under $250, then it will be good :)

That said, I really dont think there is much hope for this card because its basicly a 5900, only slower. And based on everything Iv seen about the 5900s lately, they have their share of performance problems already (poor Pixel Shader performance compaired to ATI's, low AA\AF performance compaired to ATI's).

Still, this is a welcome addition to the market. Nvidia has had a $150-$200 gap in their product line for months, its going to be good to see something fill that (regardless of how it performs compaired to ATI's cards).

Rytr
09-06-03, 11:29 AM
Comparison with Ati is naturally a hot topic. But to be honest I think the performance of the the 5900 series is very good. Of course, I have to qualify that by saying only if you have a problem-free board (which I do). Enabling AA creates a severe performance hit but does not stop it from running any of the games very well. AF looks good and easily comparible to Ati's from what I am experiencing. Performance will only improve as their engineers get on the ball.

The performance of the 9800Pro is very good...the one I have is also a very good one! :) I will start some oc'ing tests on it this coming week. This board is really responding well with the new CAT 3.7's. :)

B&R
09-06-03, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by ragejg
//me wonders how it performs vs. a 5800 regular...

5900NU is better and 5900SE..hmm i wonder too.

Hunter32
09-06-03, 10:32 PM
I saw, what I believe to be a 9500se at newegg. It's the gainward ultra 1100. It is using 2.8ns memory. It doesn't say SE, but it could be one. Since their 9500nu is a 1200 and this one is a 1100. It's selling for $289.00

I thought about pick one of these up.

The Baron
09-06-03, 10:39 PM
AF on NVIDIA cards is superior in terms of IQ than AF on ATI cards, but it takes a larger performance hit.

ah yes, another piece of Hellbait. :D

Dazz
09-07-03, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by morethanonecode
off by 6ns or so
is that really going to make that much of a diff
i just wonder how the scores are compared to 5900 ultra an reg 5900 w/o AF & FSAA they perform the same as the 5900 regular, heck even with them enabled there an't much diffrence. I guess it shows the FX family can't use all the bandwith.