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KasuCode
09-06-03, 12:06 PM
so i guess my final match is between the 5900 se and the 9800 non pro

the 5900 se 128 by bfg

or the

9800 non pro 128 built by ati

what would i get higher fps and marks out of as far as most games
and wich would be a beter overclocker for good marks

both are $300

CaptNKILL
09-06-03, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by morethanonecode
so i guess my final match is between the 5900 se and the 9800 non pro

the 5900 se 128 by bfg

or the

9800 non pro 128 built by ati

what would i get higher fps and marks out of as far as most games
and wich would be a beter overclocker for good marks

both are $300

The 5900 SE isnt even out yet is it? If it sells for $300 then no way would I recommend buying it, whether its available or not. You can find 9800 non-pros for under $250 and they can compete with the 5900 (non SE).

I have not seen any benchmarks from the 5900SE yet, but its not going to be faster than the 5900 non ultra. And since the 9800np competes with 5900 non ultra, then the 5900SE simply cant outperform the 9800 non pro (plus, its $50 less)... well, unless Nvidia loses their mind and makes the cheaper 5900SE faster than their other cards :lol:

Lfctony
09-06-03, 12:23 PM
The 5900 is already selling at 299USD, why would you buy a 5900SE for that?

KasuCode
09-06-03, 12:34 PM
well i can spend 300 an only at best buy so from

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat01151&type=category

whats the best card to buy

BFG Asylum GeForce FX 5900 128MB DDR AGP Graphics Card
it dont say SE so it may not be
or
ATI RADEON 9800 128MB AGP Graphics Card

KasuCode
09-06-03, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Lfctony
The 5900 is already selling at 299USD, why would you buy a 5900SE for that?


yea i looked at it wrong
its not the SE

CaptNKILL
09-06-03, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by morethanonecode
yea i looked at it wrong
its not the SE
I think the 9800 is still better. The 5900 only beats it once in a while and even then its not by much. The major reason I would buy the 9800 is because the 5900s all seem to have some nasty problems you should try to avoid (poor pixel shader performance, the screen flickering bug etc).

KasuCode
09-06-03, 01:05 PM
hmm

and cant i flash the 9800 to a pro

aapo
09-06-03, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by morethanonecode
yea i looked at it wrong
its not the SE

Then it's a close call. Pro's and con's of both cards:

FX5900:
- pros: fast with DX7 and DX8, good AF quality, works flawlessly with most games out-of-the-box, good DirectX drivers, very good OpenGL drivers, good Linux support
- cons: possibility of the now-famous FX5900-flickering and 'scrolling noise bug', bad or mediocre DX9 speed (uncertain ATM), mediocre AA/AF speed, mediocre AA quality, noisy

R9800:
- pros: fast with DX7, DX8 and DX9, fast AA/AF, good AA quality, very good 2d-quality, very good DirectX drivers, less noisy
- cons: mediocre AF quality in some occasions, some games may require tweaking to work properly (not good for beginners), mediocre OpenGL drivers, bad Linux support

So it's up to you to decide now. :D

digitalwanderer
09-06-03, 01:23 PM
My .02:

9800, no contest. :)

B&R
09-06-03, 01:35 PM
Powercolor 9800np. ;)

digitalwanderer
09-06-03, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by B&R
Powercolor 9800np. ;)
Isn't Powercolor the company that sells underclocked cards?

Double-check what speed they guarantee before you buy from them, they used to be very bad about it. :(

B&R
09-06-03, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Isn't Powercolor the company that sells underclocked cards?

Double-check what speed they guarantee before you buy from them, they used to be very bad about it. :(

yeah but i dont think they do that for this series as far as i know atleast. I know they are cheap and easy to flash the bios to 9800p(atleast the 9800SE).

yeah double check.