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Time to fry something other than a processor....
Apparently Einstein claimed that 98% of world's population can't solve this problem. Well if you have what it takes to be in the 2% of WINNERS go for it.
It is very very good puzzle. You will have a few clues, and all of them must satisfy to finish the puzzle. Once you've finished the puzzle click on "Submit". It will tell you whether you did the puzzle successfully or not.
I got it on the first try, and it only takes about 10 minutes to figure it out, or go insane.... Good luck !!!!
:confused: :D :cool:
intercede007
09-11-02, 11:20 PM
Yay I got it! Took me 3 tries starting over and about 30 minutes but hey, no one said I couldn't take my time ;)
Proof that I did it, or if you're stumped, the answer.....
De-mystified (http://members.cox.net/intercede007/Answer.jpg)
The Baron
09-11-02, 11:36 PM
Got that at school a few weeks ago--I figured it out :P
zippermcfrag
09-12-02, 12:14 AM
Well I solved it, so if i'm in the top 2% we are all in trouble :)
LORD-eX-Bu
09-12-02, 12:31 AM
Whoo hoo! Figured this thing out, 8 mins. :D
I'm in the midst of working it out. I must first complain though, I HATE that the window won't move..... I had to blow up the text which also allows me to move it around in open office. It's a pain that the stupid window is stuck in the middle of my screen and won't let me move it.. ugh....
Edit: Solved!
StealthHawk
09-12-02, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by =SSC=The Baron
Got that at school a few weeks ago--I figured it out :P
yeah, i used to solve puzzles like that all the time in middle school for extra credit in math class
My maths teacher had solved that puzzle in a matter of minutes literally.
BTW dudes. I think he ment at the time. I'm sure everyone in the world can solve that puzzle now. Also I'm sure Einstein was also human. ;) (My maths teacher must not be lolz)
StealthHawk
09-12-02, 05:55 AM
that really depends on when he invented the problem.
additionally, the problem requires no real skills of any kind, and completion shouldn't be dependant on education. as long as you have a pencil and some paper. solving it without using a paper and pencil, that would be extremely difficult, although i'm not sure 2% of the world's population would be able to do it, that's a lot of people
You never know SH. A majority of people just don't want to take the time to do it. I remember doing it a few months ago. I was nearly there but guess what? I ran out of patience and ended up playing a game.
I'm sure 5-10mins wasn't enough for me to solve it but it really wasn't that intresting.
If that puzzle can benefit me in some way I would be glad to sit there and finish it, otherwise I'm wasting my time.
StealthHawk
09-12-02, 06:18 AM
choosing not to solve something is still a far cry from Einstein claimed that 98% of world's population can't solve this problem
that says to me that they will attempt the problem and not be able to finish it. as opposed to saying say "98% of people won't solve this problem." which would encompass people who could solve it but would rather just give up
Well I will solve it as soon as you give me a good reason. :)
StealthHawk
09-12-02, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Well I will solve it as soon as you give me a good reason. :)
it's not a very ingratiating problem to solve, so if you are not compelled to do it just for the sake of doing it(to see if it's challenging etc) then i really can't think of any reason why you should give it a second look ;)
Maybe one day I will get bored and solve it. Not anytime soon though :)
Guys, it is a test of pattern recognition... I don' t think that starting over and over, taking half an hour to try all the combinations you can think of counts as "completing it". If you really figured it out you should be able to complete it during your first attempt. The final answer to the the test is written on it as the list of statements at the bottom. Its just hard because you have to think recursively as you read the answer to comprehend it.
And no... I haven't attempted it yet, will give it a try over lunch. :)
SnakeEyes
09-12-02, 09:24 AM
Okay. It took me around 45 minutes to complete it to the solution. Darned work interrupting my play time. :p
At first I just tried to complete it using the grid in the program itself, but that doesn't allow me to see enough information at once. The easy way to solve it is to set up a grid with all possible values for each block showing:
House1 House2 House3 House4 House5
Color Blue Blue ..
Green Green ..
Red ..
White ..
Yellow ..
Nat. .. ..
etc.
(I created a table in MS Word and filled the values in there, then did the following)
Then work through the facts stated below, removing choices that don't fit for a given fact. (ex: The man living in the house right in the center drinks milk- erase all choices but milk from the drink row for House3, and erase milk from all the other choices, since only 1 house will have it). Working through all of the facts below (yes, recursively), with each time through, there will be certain things you'll be able to eliminate/lock down, until eventually you're left with one value for each trait under each house. During my time playing with it, I actually ended up with one extra fact, which simply wasn't needed, but did allow me to verify that all the others were right. (Just out of curiousity, I went back to the top fact after filling everything in, and went back through. All of them match up fine if done correctly).
I remember seeing this when I was about 9 years old, in school. At the time I was overwhelmed. But it just takes a methodical approach, since the problem is basically one of organizational relationships and eliminating invalid relationships based on facts that are known, eventually leaving the only possible set of relationships for the given facts. :)
Edit: BTW, I had to reset the form twice before I decided that the inability to see which choices I had eliminated from other columns in this little program was an irritating thing (dunno about anyone else here, but I can't keep that many total relationships in memory at once. Old age?:D)
Starscream
09-12-02, 05:22 PM
Yes! (picture doesn't include answers)
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
BTW dudes. I think he ment at the time. I'm sure everyone in the world can solve that puzzle now. Also I'm sure Einstein was also human. ;) (My maths teacher must not be lolz) Yeah, since at that time (1900 or so ???) not many people were finishing high school, or going to college. If you can finish it on the first try, you're probably in the top 10% in the world. And probably top 50% in first world countries.
It took me 8 minutes, without writing anything down or doing calculations etc.
The whole problem is much simpler than it looks. You just fill in one field at a time and each time you do you eliminate enough options to allow one of the other clues to tell you what field to fill in next. If you feel stuck, don't let yourself get really deep into a mathematical problem, instead just clear your mind and read through the clues again.... a clue like "the german smokes Prince" may seem useless earlier on, but after you complete parts of the puzzle with other clues it becomes important.
StealthHawk
09-12-02, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by exar
Yeah, since at that time (1900 or so ???) not many people were finishing high school, or going to college. If you can finish it on the first try, you're probably in the top 10% in the world. And probably top 50% in first world countries.
like i said, school(at least today), doesn't teach you anything that would help solve this problem. anyone with a middle school education should be able to solve this.
mathematics really has absolutely null to do with this. it is all process of elimination. for example, taking algebra isn't required and won't help with this problem.
Originally posted by StealthHawk
like i said, school(at least today), doesn't teach you anything that would help solve this problem. anyone with a middle school education should be able to solve this.
mathematics really has absolutely null to do with this. it is all process of elimination. for example, taking algebra isn't required and won't help with this problem.
Correct. All that is needed is common sense and a little logic and you've got yourself an answer.
thcdru2k
09-12-02, 11:44 PM
this is bs, this ain't no einstein created puzzle. i solved it first time in like 10 minutes and im only 15. i know i'm not that smart...the success rate is way more than only 2%. its somewhat difficult but there's much more harder logical things out there.
Well, I'm sure 98% of the world have better things to do ;) :D
SnakeEyes
09-13-02, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by DaveW
It took me 8 minutes, without writing anything down or doing calculations etc.
The whole problem is much simpler than it looks. You just fill in one field at a time and each time you do you eliminate enough options to allow one of the other clues to tell you what field to fill in next. If you feel stuck, don't let yourself get really deep into a mathematical problem, instead just clear your mind and read through the clues again.... a clue like "the german smokes Prince" may seem useless earlier on, but after you complete parts of the puzzle with other clues it becomes important.
I had to use something just so I could 'see' the remaining valid choices under each column. I guess this means I was right earlier- old age is setting in. ;)
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I had to use something just so I could 'see' the remaining valid choices under each column. I guess this means I was right earlier- old age is setting in. ;)
Well... I used the form itself to "see" what choices are available, same difference.
this is bs, this ain't no einstein created puzzle. i solved it first time in like 10 minutes and im only 15. i know i'm not that smart...the success rate is way more than only 2%. its somewhat difficult but there's much more harder logical things out there.
I don't think its BS... most people in the world are stupid.
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