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ViN86
03-22-12, 02:04 PM
Each to their own.

I wouldnt worry though if like Zero, I had a 7970....I think it would be more of thing for ppl like me on the fence ..who have 580 or older gen cards

Right. For people with a 7970, it's up to them, but probably not worth the hassle of sell/buy for a loss for a few percent.

But it's the definitive choice atm for people looking to upgrade from older generation cards, at least until we see an AMD price drop (if there is one).

Yaboze
03-22-12, 02:05 PM
Do you think a i7 Bloomfield (ie 920, 960) can drive this card?

Maverick123w
03-22-12, 02:09 PM
Where's Roadhog? :p

Roadhog
03-22-12, 02:11 PM
Where's Roadhog? :p

Right here, why?

nekrosoft13
03-22-12, 02:13 PM
Do you think a i7 Bloomfield (ie 920, 960) can drive this card?

of course it can

Ghosthunter
03-22-12, 02:14 PM
I am going to pick this up for my new build, it probably overkill since monitor will only do 1920x1080

Maverick123w
03-22-12, 02:17 PM
Right here, why?

You were the one saying it did poorly at high resolutions, obviously that's not the case, and you've been very vocal in the rumors thread.

ViN86
03-22-12, 02:19 PM
You were the one saying it did poorly at high resolutions, obviously that's not the case, and you've been very vocal in the rumors thread.

You mean he was wrong in the rumors forum? FOR SHAME!

:lol:

Roadhog
03-22-12, 02:20 PM
You were the one saying it did poorly at high resolutions, obviously that's not the case, and you've been very vocal in the rumors thread.

Yes, that's what I was saying based off the information supplied. Obviously that's not the case, but the gap does get much narrower at higher res.

Obviously it's a good release from nvidia.

Maverick123w
03-22-12, 02:20 PM
You mean he was wrong in the rumors forum? FOR SHAME!

:lol:

He'd be the first person here touting he was right. ;)

ViN86
03-22-12, 02:22 PM
He'd be the first person here touting he was right. ;)

Yea, and who wouldn't do the same? Are we making observations on human nature or talking about the sweet new 680 here? :lol:

nekrosoft13
03-22-12, 02:26 PM
so were are the two resident ATI promoters/"employees" saying that this product sucks.

I guess we will see them again when ATi releases new product.

nekrosoft13
03-22-12, 02:36 PM
wait, will this support directx 11.1?

newparad1gm
03-22-12, 02:44 PM
I can't shake the feeling that this is just a midrange card that turned out really good. At high resolutions, the card only matches the 7970 - that's lame and simply not good enough for the highest end single GPU card from nV. That's not what I consider high end.

But this will be a home run for nV, no doubt. Best in class features and now also very efficient.

Personally, I don't care about the TDP of a desktop card. What matters are features and performance and I'm not happy with the Surround performance. Features on the other hand are brilliant. Maybe things will change once 4GB models with the reference cooler are available, otherwise I'm not interested at all in this card. 2GB is a joke!

Something doesn't add up here for me. It doesn't seem like a no-compromise-high-end offering :thumbdwn:

I feel the same way too now. I feel like NVIDIA is holding out on us purely because they know they only need to do so much for now to compete with AMD, and are avoiding playing their best cards until the future. I want the rumored big Kepler.

Roadhog
03-22-12, 02:47 PM
I feel the same way too now. I feel like NVIDIA is holding out on us purely because they know they only need to do so much for now to compete with AMD, and are avoiding playing their best cards until the future. I want the rumored big Kepler.

That has never happened in the past. It never stopped one in the past from totally demolishing the other. Both companies have always released what they have at the time.

Yaboze
03-22-12, 02:53 PM
of course it can

Well, maybe I should have said...will a i7 Bloomfield be a bottleneck for a GTX 680? It'll be nearly 2 revisions back when Ivy Bridge comes.

Roadhog
03-22-12, 03:02 PM
Well, the higher the resolution, the closer the 680 and the 7970 get. That's not good performance in my book.

It is $50 cheaper and uses a tad less power.

Honestly, both the 680 and 7970 didn't deliver anything impressive this round.

newparad1gm
03-22-12, 03:10 PM
That has never happened in the past. It never stopped one in the past from totally demolishing the other. Both companies have always released what they have at the time.

I'm not saying that NVIDIA has GK110 completed and ready and just waiting to push the release button when AMD releases their refresh. Maybe they are still having yield issues with the big chip and decided to counter now with a smaller one rather than having a Fermi redux and another half year or greater lag behind the competition. It's just that many of the reviews are already discussing the larger chip, and rumors point to a release later this year. Just makes the 680 a tough sell for me at this time at its price point.

ViN86
03-22-12, 03:11 PM
This release is just the last piece of a truly horrible upgrade year all around.

SNB-E/X79 was the biggest disappointment in years, then AMD had something decent but their drivers are tricky (yours excluded ;) ) and then this midrange card with the $500 price tag from nV...

At least the AMD card is better suited for Surround gaming. It doesn't cave in as much as the 680 does. Price and efficiency shouldn't matter in the highend segment!

+1

Roadhog
03-22-12, 03:13 PM
GTX 8800 -> GTX 280 = +100%~
GTX 280 -> GTX 580 = +100%~
GTX 580 -> GTX 680 = +35%~

3870 -> 4870 = +100%~
4870 -> 6970 = +100%~
6970 -> 7970 = +45%~

ViN86
03-22-12, 03:16 PM
slawter and Roadhog agreeing?

http://i.imgur.com/3V4gI.jpg

ViN86
03-22-12, 03:18 PM
GTX 8800 -> GTX 280 = +100%~
GTX 280 -> GTX 580 = +100%~
GTX 580 -> GTX 680 = +35%~

3870 -> 4870 = +100%~
4870 -> 6970 = +100%~
6970 -> 7970 = +45%~

It seems like hardware is starting to be hindered by the software (i.e. drivers). ATI drivers are weak. Nvidia found a clever solution for increasing clock speed that won it the round. I like GPU boost a lot, it's a good idea. I'm curious to see its implementation though in people's poorly ventilated machines and with cards with poorer ASIC quality (i.e. lower OC potential).

In theory, there's no reason ATI couldn't do a similar GPU boost for the 7970. Time will tell. Either way, drivers on both sides need work.

Roadhog
03-22-12, 03:35 PM
If i were to upgrade...i would go GTX 680 now. But dam...2GB VRAM...kinda blows...I been holding out on finishing up Skyrim because of the mods i got running and my 5870 not good enuf for it -.-

2gb is plenty for single monitor.

nekrosoft13
03-22-12, 03:46 PM
GTX 8800 -> GTX 280 = +100%~
GTX 280 -> GTX 580 = +100%~
GTX 580 -> GTX 680 = +35%~

3870 -> 4870 = +100%~
4870 -> 6970 = +100%~
6970 -> 7970 = +45%~

aren't you missing things? is not a fair comparison

GTX 8800->GTX9800->GTX280
between GTX 280 and 580, there was 285?, 480, and then 580. your skipping generations.

Roadhog
03-22-12, 03:51 PM
aren't you missing things? is not a fair comparison

GTX 8800->GTX9800->GTX280
between GTX 280 and 580, there was 285?, 480, and then 580. your skipping generations.

Yeah. If you still go 285 to 480, its still a 100% perf increase. Same with 285 to 580. Same with GTX 9800 to GTX 280 iirc.