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Bartflaster
09-11-03, 05:23 PM
I know some of the GF4 had issues .. are Gainward back on track or are they still a bit unreliable ?
Also the card I was looking at says its an ultra .. but only has 2.8 ns ram ??
Any one enlighten me on these facts would be appreciated :)

GlowStick
09-11-03, 06:15 PM
Gainward cards stick to the refrence desgin, however they claim their cards can be 'overclocked' more witch is on a case per case basis.

However, their cards seem to be the same as others heh.

any of these brands are good

PNY
BFG
Evga
Abit
Asus
Inno3d


and pritty much everyother one is ok.

Star_Hunter
09-11-03, 06:24 PM
I would get an ATI card instead......

But anyways to answer your question Gainward is the best...glowstick gainaward does not follow the ref design.....(only their 5900 Ultra does) their 5900 non-ultra is designed by them and looks cool.

Bartflaster
09-11-03, 06:29 PM
This was the particular one I was looking at ...
http://www.gainward.com/c-1.html?id=109
Why 2.8 ns ram .. thats 700mhz ... I thought they are all 850 mhz ??
And I already have a 9800 pro .. just want NV in my other PC ;)

Star_Hunter
09-11-03, 06:33 PM
That card Overclocks to past 5900 Ultra speeds so good buy.(for an Nvidia card that is :rolleyes: )

GlowStick
09-11-03, 06:37 PM
They dont have a Refrecne Cooler, but the PCB layout is the same as the others.

Bartflaster
09-11-03, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Star_Hunter
That card Overclocks to past 5900 Ultra speeds so good buy.(for an Nvidia card that is :rolleyes: )

That card IS an ultra from what I can see .. except it has slow memory ... below standard specs ... :( it doesn't actually say the mem speed, but it says 2.8ns which is only 700 ish mhz,I thought all FX were 850 ??

bkswaney
09-11-03, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Bartflaster
That card IS an ultra from what I can see .. except it has slow memory ... below standard specs ... :( it doesn't actually say the mem speed, but it says 2.8ns which is only 700 ish mhz,I thought all FX were 850 ??

All FX's r suppose to be 850. I gues this is just one
more case of nvidia BSing us.
They r letting companies use slow memory on a already slow card. :(
Dang nvidia get you d@mn head out of the rain.:spank: :surrender

Jeffus
09-12-03, 04:19 AM
THe gainward card is fine, I had the Gainward 5900U, which i sent back as I had this flickering issue/noise issue.... :D I ended up with the MSI 5900U, both perform exactly same on my system.. albeit the MSI card was 50 cheaper......... :rolleyes:

Bartflaster
09-12-03, 01:14 PM
I E-mailed Gainward and the card I was looking at is not an ultra .. and runs core / mem of 400/800 so its not even a "vanilla" 5900.
Thats probably why it was a lot cheaper than the ultras, and 2.8ns ram is over stock speed at 800mhz so I guess there wouldnt be a lot of heardroom there ..
So I ordered the Asus Ultra ;)

rover214
12-18-03, 06:56 PM
i have a fx5800 800 golden sample and it o/c'ed to the ultra version with no probs and only around 3-4oC difference

zakelwe
12-19-03, 06:43 AM
Gainwards are great cards for overclocking, however their naming conventions suck. They call the package ULTRA, but this does not mean that the card is an Ultra, the one you showed was the SE version. You always have to use the part numebrs.

Your best bet would have been to get the FX 5900 Golden Sample which has the same memory speed as the FX 5900U and is a lot cheaper. The core can be got up to Ultra speeds very easily.

This is 47-1846200-4981 for the part number.

Good luck with the Asus anyhow.

I have 3 Gainward FX cards, 5200U, 5600U and 5700U and they are overclocked to

5200U 378/678
5600U 535/924
5700u 590/1150

Regards

Andy

AnteP
12-19-03, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by GlowStick
Gainward cards stick to the refrence desgin, however they claim their cards can be 'overclocked' more witch is on a case per case basis.

How do you figure?
Gainward builds their own PCB's and tweak termination, voltages etc.
They build their own cooling sollutions.

I mean that's basically the ONLY two things you can do to avoid just following the reference design. They do both, so calling it "sticking to reference design" seems pretty odd.

Gainward are overly expensive but they make solid boards no doubt.

GlowStick
12-19-03, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by AnteP
How do you figure?
Gainward builds their own PCB's and tweak termination, voltages etc.
They build their own cooling sollutions.

I mean that's basically the ONLY two things you can do to avoid just following the reference design. They do both, so calling it "sticking to reference design" seems pretty odd.

Gainward are overly expensive but they make solid boards no doubt. Im sorry, gainward fooled me by makeing their own pcb's look exactly like the refrence design.

Blacklash
12-19-03, 06:13 PM
The reviews I have seen of the e-vga 5900se indicate that card can be OCed to ultra levels, and heck it costs the same as the 5700 used to.

Its a good buy.

AnteP
12-19-03, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by GlowStick
Im sorry, gainward fooled me by makeing their own pcb's look exactly like the refrence design.

They've done a few on strict reference PCBs. The 5800 for an example and their realy 5950 Ultra samples etc.

Naffer
12-20-03, 12:59 PM
My gainward 5900 Ultra Golden Sample is a dead on reference 5900.

AnteP
12-20-03, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Naffer
My gainward 5900 Ultra Golden Sample is a dead on reference 5900.

They usually do the first batch that way yes.
Simply to get their boards out on the market early on.

In any case, it isn't like there's a big ol' difference between reference and non-reference boards.

Gator
12-20-03, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Bartflaster
I know some of the GF4 had issues .. are Gainward back on track or are they still a bit unreliable ?...

I have a Gainward GF4 TI4400 and it has been running GREAT, with practically no issues since I purchased it back in Summer 2002. The bad GF4 you are refering to was a batch of Gainward GF4TI4200 64mb cards. But it was a one time thing so far as I know, specific to that model. I've only heard good things about other Gainward cards, and my reason for buying Gainward was a friend told me they use higher quality RAMDACS and other components on their cards.

I'm sure the Gainward FX cards are just as good as the others.

rover214
12-20-03, 08:16 PM
zakelwe, u do not wan't to know what i paid 4 my 5800, it would only make u cry (even though the USA always have cheaper gear than us, if u r from the USA, if not u will cry) pm me 4 the price, i do not want 2 dissapoint.

rover214
12-20-03, 08:18 PM
sorry about the scpellineg of disappoint, dissapoint, oh i don't know, leave me alone!!!!!!!!!!

Burnt_Ram
12-20-03, 11:57 PM
i have the Gainward (ultra 1100) it has 2.8ns memory aswell. its stock speed in 3d is 400/700. what i'm wondering is whats the stock speed's of the (ultra 1300) ? only diff i can see from my card, is different design and it has 256 mb's of memory instead of the 128 my card has ...

Gainward Ultra 1100 (http://www.gainward.com/c-1.html?id=110)

zakelwe
12-21-03, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by rover214
zakelwe, u do not wan't to know what i paid 4 my 5800, it would only make u cry (even though the USA always have cheaper gear than us, if u r from the USA, if not u will cry) pm me 4 the price, i do not want 2 dissapoint.


eh ?

I don't think I will cry, I don't care what you paid for it, whether it be 1 or 1000 :)

Have you been drinking ?

Regards

Andy