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Ghosthunter
05-17-12, 12:59 PM
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/05/ff_unreal4/?pid=2549

looks interesting what kind of rig will need LOL

hirantha
05-17-12, 02:31 PM
isn't it OpenGL? then we shouldn't have any issues :)

Redeemed
05-17-12, 03:25 PM
Hmm...

FastRedPonyCar
05-17-12, 04:22 PM
Meh... Several studios are already using the new version of cryengine 3 (3.5 or whatever it's at now) to build next gen console titles. That engine is already a proven winner and is capable of rendering pretty decent looking stuff on current consoles. With the rumors floating around on what the next gen consoles will have hardware-wise, they should have no problems pushing details that we see on crysis and crysis 2 at full DX11/ultra settings with AA @ 1080.

As far as this new UE4 thing goes... If developers can actually produce a quality game with graphics on par with the samaritan demo then I'll be impressed but I'm withholding judgement until I see what studios actually DO with the product.

I guess we'll get to see this thing in motion at E3 next month so we can see just what's up. I hope I'm amazed. I really do.

Bokishi
05-17-12, 04:36 PM
I dont see much next-gen in those shots...

nutcrackr
05-17-12, 05:59 PM
will it have anti aliasing?

ViN86
05-17-12, 09:57 PM
ya whats the point when crytek released there engine for free?

The SDK is free. The UE3 SDK was free too.

Until you start making money. Then you pay a percentage of the profits to them.

FastRedPonyCar
05-17-12, 10:52 PM
I heard crytek charges a cool 1 million to license it's engine to a company to use to make a game. chump change really given what most game's cost.

Cylphid
05-18-12, 11:59 AM
Hmm...

My thoughts exactly :lol:

I'll reserve opinion until I see it at work in a game.

AngelGraves13
05-18-12, 06:39 PM
First shots of it look amazing. Considering most games use UE, when next gen games start using this, we'll be blown away.

I've given up on id software. CryTek and Epic are the only two companies left who can make amazing looking engines.

Screenshots: http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/05/ff_unreal4/?pid=2549

astonish
05-18-12, 07:22 PM
I've been told by people who saw the demo during consults that it looks more impressive in motion than what the screens let on. When you see all the reflections, particles and radiosity working in real-time it leaves a better impression (they say). I too was a little underwhelmed by some screens, floored by others. Everything is really about developers because nobody wants to hire more staff for 3 year dev cycles because its financially unsustainable. Epic was more trying to sell people on "you can develop faster and with less of a learning curve" than "we can make your games look even more amazing". Sounds about right considering most console manufacturers seem to be pushing towards conservative instead of envelope pushing specs for next-gen.

It is a fully deferred shading, dynamically lit pipeline. Think Doom3, but with radiosity and some specular interaction. No more lightmap computing and, I assume, no more baking cube maps.

As a programmer I'm more curious about the "real-time" C++ stuff. From the sounds of it you can just edit-and-continue with the editor running to play with new game logic nearly instantaneous. At the same time unreal script is completely gone.

Granted I can draw up a longer list of my favorite games made with Unreal compared to Cryengine I don't really have a favorite. If people can make great games for both and they keep competing and making things more impressive as a result I'm all for it. Another engine that seems to be gaining steam, though under the radar for AAA development, is Unity. Most devs I know that work with it come away pretty impressed and tho not cryengine or UDK level their DX11 stuff is looking really good.

Guess well know more when Epic shows off UE4 at E3...

AngelGraves13
05-18-12, 09:09 PM
At least they don't have to spend months faking realistic lighting anymore. UE4 does realistic lighting!

Finally...

mojoman0
05-18-12, 09:28 PM
I can't even tell what graphics are impressive anymore. After Crysis, I don't think I've noticed anything that blows me away. I wonder what its going to take

AngelGraves13
05-18-12, 09:32 PM
I can't even tell what graphics are impressive anymore. After Crysis, I don't think I've noticed anything that blows me away. I wonder what its going to take

CryEngine is hard to beat, but no one wants to license it for some reason. Maybe now with UE4 we'll be wowed again...in a couple of years.

Ninja Prime
05-20-12, 01:42 AM
I can't even tell what graphics are impressive anymore. After Crysis, I don't think I've noticed anything that blows me away. I wonder what its going to take

An excellent arguement for diminishing returns on GPU processing power.

i SPY
05-21-12, 03:57 PM
Im not impressed either, they better top out Samaritan tech demo, this ice demon or what ever it is looks on average, where is that real hair and cloth U4E devs?? :p


Particles and dynamic lightning looks nice, but that's about it.

AngelGraves13
05-26-12, 08:45 PM
For everyone saying they're not impressed...

Think of what games will look like in a year or two when they're made using UE4. No more fake lighting, that'll disappear. Heavy use of amazing looking effects, especially particles, will be available in all games using this new engine.

In other words, the majority of games will look amazing, as most use Unreal engine to make their games.

Redeemed
05-26-12, 08:53 PM
For everyone saying they're not impressed...

Think of what games will look like in a year or two when they're made using UE4. No more fake lighting, that'll disappear. Heavy use of amazing looking effects, especially particles, will be available in all games using this new engine.

In other words, the majority of games will look amazing, as most use Unreal engine to make their games.

What I look forward to more than a new game engine, is the next generation of consoles. Because until then we're going to be held back by this present generation.

I'm really excited, as even though the rumored specs for the next-gen consoles couldn't hold a match to a top-end PC... what developers are able to accomplish with that hardware... that's what I'm looking forward to. Case in point- look at what they're already pulling off with what is essentially a 7800GT and X1800XT. Rather great visuals for such dated hardware.

Now, imagine what they'll be able to accomplish with the rumored specs of these next gen consoles. Only then will we start seeing some really impressive improvements to games. Improvements to not just the "graphics", but physics, AI, etc. All of it... that is what I'm excited about.

I could see a lot of awesome coming from UE4. But that's just a part of the bigger picture, imo. :)

AngelGraves13
06-08-12, 04:53 AM
Since I will never figure out how the hell to post a YouTube video on here...

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As I said before...much more impressive in motion.

bob saget
06-08-12, 05:05 AM
just use youtube tags, and put them around whatever comes after the v= in the url.
EDIT: that url was very funky.

Vardant
06-08-12, 06:39 AM
I'm not impressed. This would look good as a launch game for next-gen consoles, where devs don't know the system very well. But a techdemo should show you, how the games could look like further down the line.

Some of the effects are nice, but the textures are still sh*tty as ever.

wysiwyg
06-08-12, 06:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvfn1p92_8&feature=player_embedded
MOvfn1p92_8&feature=player_embedded

FastRedPonyCar
06-08-12, 09:27 AM
Those particle effects and objects breaking dynamically are what nvidia is currently pimping with the Kepler cards. It leads me to assume that the next PS and Xbox will have Kepler level GPU processing.

One thing I liked about the demo was that they didn't blur the background like crazy. all the mountains/etc were clear and crisp off in the distance.

AngelGraves13
06-08-12, 03:05 PM
For people who aren't impressed...what the hell are you expecting? Movie like CGI? That's still a good 10 years off.

At least new games built on this engine will actually look like their cinematic trailers for once...on PC.

Alaa
06-08-12, 07:20 PM
Not bad.