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Kruno
09-14-02, 05:13 AM
The media is mainly at fualt for portraying the rich as scum. Down here as soon as someone rich goes down the media have to make a big deal out of it and share extremist views on it.

You see the scenario of poor people headhunting the rich is portrayed as good and just. While the rich making the poor work for $10 an hour is wrong and slavery. My point is that no one is forcing anyone to work. Sure there are a few rich people that are scum but how about the ones that earn their money?

Is this image being portrayed in other countries as well?

Article that backs my case:
http://www.geocities.com/peterzohrab/medibias.html

legion88
09-14-02, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
The media is mainly at fualt for portraying the rich as scum. Down here as soon as someone rich goes down the media have to make a big deal out of it and share extremist views on it.

You see the scenario of poor people headhunting the rich is portrayed as good and just. While the rich making the poor work for $10 an hour is wrong and slavery. My point is that no one is forcing anyone to work. Sure there are a few rich people that are scum but how about the ones that earn their money?

Is this image being portrayed in other countries as well?

Article that backs my case:
http://www.geocities.com/peterzohrab/medibias.html

No. In the U.S.A., there's no "headhunting" the rich. And there's nothing in that geocities editorial that even backs your suggestion that there is a left-wing conspiracy against the rich. The word "rich" does not even show up in the editorial.

That geocities editorial is just a collection of bogus accusations with nothing to support it. His reference to Nazi Genocide against the Jews is a perfect example. He claims that Jews were suppressing certain information but provided nothing to back that up, not even a hint as to what that information might be. He just simply made an accusation. That is not "objective" when a person makes an accusation without backing it up at all. Doesn't even try.

Anything against that person's views is labelled as "bias". Afterall, he used that word 19 times throughout the short article. It is actually a common act of stupidity to substitute rational reason that supports one's conclusion with bogus and mindless accusations.

It is actually no different from the group over at Rage3D forums that labels anyone and anything "bias" that is critical of any ATi product (perhaps the exception being the MAXX).

No credibility.

vampireuk
09-14-02, 08:06 AM
Rich people, meh I hate one type with a passion, those that rub their money in your face and then when you object they say your jelous.

Oh those and the kids who act like they are better than everyone else even thought they are living off their parents money:mad:

ok im calm im calm:)

Kruno
09-14-02, 09:14 AM
Legion that article was just an example. (a bad one at that, can't be stuffed searching for a good one. Takes too long).

sytaylor
09-14-02, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Legion that article was just an example. (a bad one at that, can't be stuffed searching for a good one. Takes too long).

yeah ok, but why post some guys random comments which are clearly extreemism, we all know people are capeable of spouting random crap... i see polotics as a pendulum which can swing all the way around... you have the left and the right... with the bottom being the middleground where most people meet. Communism way over 90 degrees to the left and Nationlism 90 degrees to the right. Then you have jerks like the guy in thatr article who are even futher out of orbit... til eventually you get facists no matter which direction you go above that 90 degrees. The fact that his views may be right wing extreemism shouldn't be the probelm... the fact that he's an extreemist is. I'm sick of all this right wing bashing that goes on without reasoning

de><ta
09-14-02, 10:24 AM
if the poor folks in America went on a headhunting rampage for the "rich" America would go down, something about the fact that 90% of the US GDP is earned by 10% of Americans.

Let the rich be rich and the poor be poor as long as you are dedicated and are ruthless fortune and fame shine your way. Money is not meant for the softhearted.

DaveW
09-14-02, 12:15 PM
The problem with american society is that there is such a big divide between the rich and poor, and it is increasing... American society is built towards keeping the rich rich and the plebs in their place. Rich people get a better education and better health care, so people born in poorer families don't get an equal opportunity in life. Most of them still have the opportunity to make something of themselves, but it is much harder than it is for a person born into the upper class.

Ofcourse all american children have it drilled into them at school that anything socialist is evil, so we would never see anything like the NHS in the USA.

Blakhart
09-14-02, 04:34 PM
Looked into a NHS have we? Liked it?
Talk to some folks who live under one.

StealthHawk
09-14-02, 07:26 PM
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, blah, blah, blah. this has been true for thousands of years. if anything, it's less true today.

yes, it is extremely difficult to become what would be considered as rich. it takes a lot of luck and a lot of planning. but it's not that hard to become well off, or middle class. financial aid is also abundant.

look at the University of California system for example. almost every UC is in the top50 schools in the nation, and for CA residents, it isn't hard to get into at least one of them.

DaveW
09-14-02, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, blah, blah, blah. this has been true for thousands of years. if anything, it's [b]less true today.

The middle class is all but non existant in the USA. Overall the income for all families in the USA has increased by about 2-3% a year... However, the median average of family income has actually decreased (when you account for inflation). The economic boom in the 90s all went into the pockets of a small percent of the population. See the table half way down this page:
http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim98-1-1.html


Looked into a NHS have we? Liked it?
Talk to some folks who live under one.


I lived in the UK for most of my life, and the USA for the past 4 years. The NHS is better, regardless of how much Brits slag it off. You should try american health care, especially if you just lost your job and have no insurance. If you can't pay them, you wont be healed (same applies for any children you have). The only law is that a hospital must "stabilize" your condition, which doesn't mean healing. American health care is motivated entirely by profit, this is why they have hospitals with 8 story high entrance halls and ethernet access in every patient room.

sbp
09-15-02, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by DaveW
The middle class is all but non existant in the USA.Nonsense. Look at the latest Census figures sir.

http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim98-1-1.html
That link talks about Washington, DC. Well speaking as one who has lived in the area his whole life, here's the real scoop. The middle class left that city due to crime and high taxes! Remember that dipsh1t mayor Marion "Where's the crack" Barry in there?

PsychoSy
09-15-02, 06:45 AM
Dennis Miller has a rant entitled, "The Death Of The Middle Class" that I agreed with 100%. It's in his book "Ranting Again" which I can't find here at the moment (I just saw the !&@*ing book last week while cleaning the printer rack and can't remember where I put it).

Oh, and Marion "Smoke Another Boulder" Barry...what a peice of garbage! ;)

sytaylor
09-15-02, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by DaveW

I lived in the UK for most of my life, and the USA for the past 4 years.

you missed the worst 4 years believe me... if americans got half as much media from the uk as we get from the US, you'd know all about 2 year waiting lists for transplants... people sleeping in corridors, massive underfunding no matter how much is spent on it... being a public service theres no push internally to clean up the bottomless pits of cash. The government throws more money in to the wind... i mean NHS every year, yet it just gets worse